Sony has no new ideas, they can't even get their controller right. Time to copy MS and Nintendo again

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#1  Edited By Xplode_games
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TLDR; Scroll Down

Look it's a problem, the Dual Shock is trash. Always has been. It didn't matter as much when it first came out for the PS1 because back then it was just starting so we didn't know what the perfect controller would eventually look like. Sony released two analog controllers back then before the dualshock. I know because I owned them both then the dualshock.

Today it has been perfected. Microsoft has the best controller. Nintendo copied it with their pro and they have the best controller as well. I have both controllers and use them extensively and they are both phenomenal.

Dual shock is trash. I know a lot of you Sony defense cows will say you love the dual shock. What I am proposing is not for Sony to get rid of the dual shock. All I am asking is for them to offer a "pro" version or an "American" version or whatever they want to call it that looks almost exactly like an Xbox/Nintendo Pro controller. Offer it as an option.

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Sony should release an optional controller that is similar to the Xbox/Nintendo Pro controllers. Same button layout, size feel and all of that. If you don't like it then don't buy it. But offer it as an option. This will have two major impacts on Playstation. One, anyone who likes good controllers will have the option. Two, regular dual shock prices will plummet as no one given the option would want to play with that trash. Bonus will be when Sony realizes this and changes the controller for the PS5 and finally does away with that abysmal crap they've had for so many years.

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#2 lundy86_4
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TL;DR: You're still a complete moron.

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I like the dual shock but I prefer the x360 controller.

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Cool opinion, Xposed_Clown

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#5 j2zon2591
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Not fond of the dpad and shoulder buttons of any XB1 gen controllers.

I wish the DS4 had better triggers and slightly taller share/option buttons.

Haven't touched the separate controller of the Switch.

Aren't there 3rd party controllers that kinda do that for Sony though? I'm not sure.

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#6  Edited By Randoggy
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-gets-an-official-elite-style-controller-for-20/1100-6459122/

https://scufgaming.com/vantage

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In other news...


Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

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Tons of peripherals to make any controller work for you. Also if I'm correct, Scuf Gaming licensed its Tech to MS for the Elite Controller. So its pretty much the same as this Sony Controller, both using Scuf Gaming Tech.

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#10 ReCloud
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What a trash thread.

These lems try everything to try and undermine sony, it's pitful.

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@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

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@tgob89: Yet, it isn't better than the Elite...

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@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

Sales = quality

Or spinning in your way, as usual

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@lundy86_4 said:

@tgob89: Yet, it isn't better than the Elite...

For that price, it better be.

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@MonsieurX said:
@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

Sales = quality

Or spinning in your way, as usual

You do know that the DS4 is regarded as one of the bests gamepads ever, right?

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@Xplode_games:

https://www.amazon.com/Gam3Gear-Brook-Converter-Adapter-Keychain/dp/B01GDVGQ48

Problem solved. I own one btw and it works great.

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#17 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@tgob89: Yet, it isn't better than the Elite...

For that price, it better be.

Exactly. Sadly, SCUF had to release Sony's alternative.

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#18 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@tgob89: Yet, it isn't better than the Elite...

For that price, it better be.

Exactly. Sadly, SCUF had to release Sony's alternative.

Sadly? I don't get it.

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@recloud said:
@MonsieurX said:
@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

Sales = quality

Or spinning in your way, as usual

You do know that the DS4 is regarded as one of the bests gamepads ever, right?

tgob89 comment was about the sales, please do not change the subject

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#20 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:

Sadly? I don't get it.

In order to combat with the Elite controller, SCUF literally released an "Elite" PS4 controller.

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#21 CRUSHER88
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Meh, I just bought a CronusMax Plus a while back to use for my PS3/PS4. It lets me hook up my Xbox controller, so I don't have to worry about Sony making something decent.

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#22 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

Sadly? I don't get it.

In order to combat with the Elite controller, SCUF literally released an "Elite" PS4 controller.

And that's a bad thing? Now lems can get a PS4 and toss that useless Bone.

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#23  Edited By tgob89
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@MonsieurX said:
@recloud said:
@MonsieurX said:
@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Sales = quality

Or spinning in your way, as usual

You do know that the DS4 is regarded as one of the bests gamepads ever, right?

tgob89 comment was about the sales, please do not change the subject

Yes, because that is the only measurable FACT that can be given in this discussion.

This thread itself is based on an opinion. One that may not be shared by the majority as my factual sales run down can be argued.

Clear enough?

FYI: you do know there have been alternative Xbox version controllers for PS4 for a while now...yet the original DS4 black is the most sold...IN HISTORY.

better luck next time.

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#24 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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Neither are trash. Both are well designed controllers.

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#25 tgob89
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@boycie said:

Neither are trash. Both are well designed controllers.

That is a fair argument.

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#26 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@tgob89 said:
@boycie said:

Neither are trash. Both are well designed controllers.

That is a fair argument.

Thank you good sir.

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@Ant_17 said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

Sadly? I don't get it.

In order to combat with the Elite controller, SCUF literally released an "Elite" PS4 controller.

And that's a bad thing? Now lems can get a PS4 and toss that useless Bone.

You could see it as that... Or play catch-up... Or fall in line with those criticizing an expensive controller. Whatever fits the agenda.

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#28 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

And that's a bad thing? Now lems can get a PS4 and toss that useless Bone.

You could see it as that... Or play catch-up... Or fall in line with those criticizing an expensive controller. Whatever fits the agenda.

It's still overpriced, but lems do buy overpriced stuff /500 bucks for a Bone/ so i don't see a problem with anything.

I mean, catch up to what? This is made for lems that want a weird stick placement. It's more of a migration.

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@boycie said:

Neither are trash. Both are well designed controllers.

Why not offer the option that way ***everyone*** plays with their preferred controller?

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#30 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:

It's still overpriced, but lems do buy overpriced stuff /500 bucks for a Bone/ so i don't see a problem with anything.

I mean, catch up to what? This is made for lems that want a weird stick placement. It's more of a migration.

Why is the Elite overpriced?

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#31 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

It's still overpriced, but lems do buy overpriced stuff /500 bucks for a Bone/ so i don't see a problem with anything.

I mean, catch up to what? This is made for lems that want a weird stick placement. It's more of a migration.

Why is the Elite overpriced?

I don't know. More plastic on it?

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@Ant_17 said:

I don't know. More plastic on it?

That, plus other stuff.

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#33 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

I don't know. More plastic on it?

That, plus other stuff.

Whatever it is, over 100 bucks for a cotroller is a bit much.

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#34 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:

Whatever it is, over 100 bucks for a cotroller is a bit much.

Why? As said, SCUF has literally released an Elite alternative.

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#35 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

Whatever it is, over 100 bucks for a cotroller is a bit much.

Why? As said, SCUF has literally released an Elite alternative.

It's a bit much for something that will break just as easy as a 60 bucks controller.

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@Ant_17 said:

It's a bit much for something that will break just as easy as a 60 bucks controller.

According to...?

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#37 Shewgenja
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If the bone controller was really that much better, people would buy them and those cheap adapters. The DS4 is a damn good controller. I prefer the Switch Pro controller, though. Just feels a bit better.

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@Xplode_games: "Microsoft has the best controller. Nintendo copied it with their pro and they have the best controller as well."

How many "best" can there be?

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#39  Edited By Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

It's a bit much for something that will break just as easy as a 60 bucks controller.

According to...?

I don't know. But i know the Gears community hate the bumpers on the elite and like the normal Bone controller.

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#40 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

It's a bit much for something that will break just as easy as a 60 bucks controller.

According to...?

I don't know. But i know the Gears community hate the bumpers on the elite and like the normal Bone controller.

Those are pretty disparate points.

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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

I don't know. But i know the Gears community hate the bumpers on the elite and like the normal Bone controller.

Those are pretty disparate points.

Well, i don't need points when the price already puts me off.

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#42 lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

Those are pretty disparate points.

Well, i don't need points when the price already puts me off.

Nobody spoke about you...

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#43 MonsieurX
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@tgob89 said:
@MonsieurX said:
@recloud said:
@MonsieurX said:
@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Sales = quality

Or spinning in your way, as usual

You do know that the DS4 is regarded as one of the bests gamepads ever, right?

tgob89 comment was about the sales, please do not change the subject

Yes, because that is the only measurable FACT that can be given in this discussion.

This thread itself is based on an opinion. One that may not be shared by the majority as my factual sales run down can be argued.

Clear enough?

FYI: you do know there have been alternative Xbox version controllers for PS4 for a while now...yet the original DS4 black is the most sold...IN HISTORY.

better luck next time.

For all we know, it could be the most broken controller in HISTORY. Hence why it's getting rebought over and over

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#44 lundy86_4
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@MonsieurX said:
@tgob89 said:

Yes, because that is the only measurable FACT that can be given in this discussion.

This thread itself is based on an opinion. One that may not be shared by the majority as my factual sales run down can be argued.

Clear enough?

FYI: you do know there have been alternative Xbox version controllers for PS4 for a while now...yet the original DS4 black is the most sold...IN HISTORY.

better luck next time.

For all we know, it could be the most broken controller in HISTORY. Hence why it's getting rebought over and over

Well, the battery is shit... Isn't that right @gobshite?

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You and tgob should hang out

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@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

To be fair though if the console has sold way more, than the controllers to are going to sell as well. People didn't choose the ps4 over the xbox for the controllers, but for the exclusives.

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Your TLDR is TLDR.

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#48  Edited By QuadKnight
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@lundy86_4 said:

TL;DR: You're still a complete moron.

@tgob89 said:

In other news...

Bonus: DS4 is now the best selling gamepad (in dollar sales) EVER!

  • PlayStation 4 hardware breaks a record: Sony's PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console hardware platform in April, and remains the best-selling console hardware platform year to date. PlayStation 4 generated the highest April unit sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2009, and the highest April dollar sales for a Console since Nintendo Wii in April 2008.
  • Gamepad Sales are up: Gamepad spending increased 7% in April 2018 compared to a year ago and is up 23% year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black was April's top-selling Accessory and remains the best-selling Accessory year to date. The PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller Black is now the all-time best-selling Gamepad in dollar sales.

? /thread

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#49 Nonstop-Madness
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The DS4 is a great controller as is. It's far better than the previous Dualshocks.

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#50  Edited By Planeforger
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@quadknight: To be fair, I can see why the sales are so high.

I'm thinking of buying a second PS4 controller myself, since the one I currently have is awful.

Maybe a replacement one will have a battery life of more than a few hours?