So wait... Who was second place last gen?

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#1 Posted by TigerSuperman (4331 posts) -

I thought it was either a tie or the 360 barely was ahead, and while I look at numerous gaming boards and news sites and see a lot of that being said, there are also others sites saying the PS3 outsold it. So it seems people still don't know who was first HD place.

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#2 Edited by Nike_Air (18970 posts) -

That gen is still rolling along in sales , games , and services. Winner = to be determined

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#3 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

Honestly...who the **** cares

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#4 Edited by tonitorsi (8685 posts) -

Sony.

Because The Last Of Us.

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#5 Posted by WitIsWisdom (4775 posts) -

I'll go with the one that won.

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#6 Posted by TigerSuperman (4331 posts) -

@lostrib said:

Honestly...who the **** cares

A lot of people in the gaming community. Slight uptick recently for some reason though.

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#7 Edited by HeadtripHippie (58 posts) -

PC was first

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#8 Posted by KBFloYd (19162 posts) -

i say it was the 360

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#9 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

@lostrib said:

Honestly...who the **** cares

A lot of people in the gaming community. Slight uptick recently for some reason though.

Okay, then here is the answer. According to Sony fanboys, PS3 won; according to 360 fanboys, 360 won.

Most likely they are pretty much tied, plus you gotta figure out how many PS2 sales were included in reported sales numbers and also decide when you're going to stop counting

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#10 Posted by clyde46 (49050 posts) -

Because we needed another thread on this.

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#11 Edited by PonchoTaco (3183 posts) -

Wii was first.

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#12 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (19564 posts) -

Doesn't Matter. Its all just hardware.

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#13 Edited by blackace (23576 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

I thought it was either a tie or the 360 barely was ahead, and while I look at numerous gaming boards and news sites and see a lot of that being said, there are also others sites saying the PS3 outsold it. So it seems people still don't know who was first HD place.

Xbox 360 was ahead after the last announcements Sony & Microsoft made. There hasn't been any further announcements since that time last year. So no really knows who's ahead at this point. The XBox 360 had hit 80 million in October and PS3 had 80 million in November. That's all we know.

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#14 Edited by lamprey263 (34630 posts) -

Both MS and Nintendo went from selling 20-25 million consoles each the previous generation to edging Sony out of their 150 million console market dominance. In part both companies made strategic decisions that gained them an edge, but the biggest factor was probably the mistakes Sony made.

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#15 Posted by lundy86_4 (48721 posts) -

It was pretty close in sales from what I remember... So close, that the offset in quarterly releases between Sony and MS, essentially made it a tie.

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#16 Edited by inb4uall (6564 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

first HD place.

Lol Pathetic.

Lets not include PC because it's not a console.

Lets not include the wii because it's not HD.

People will do anything to protect their egos.

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#17 Posted by cainetao11 (32973 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

I thought it was either a tie or the 360 barely was ahead, and while I look at numerous gaming boards and news sites and see a lot of that being said, there are also others sites saying the PS3 outsold it. So it seems people still don't know who was first HD place.

Some will say the gen is still going because the consoles are still selling. I don't. Gen changed, last one's competition is done imo. All I know is the Wii spanked the others, and this gen the PS4 is spanking the others.

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#18 Posted by freedomfreak (50006 posts) -

Wii beat the shit out of both. It didn't stop cows and lems from battling it out for 2nd place for an entire generation.

Yes, it's that lame.

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#19 Edited by TigerSuperman (4331 posts) -

@inb4uall said:

@TigerSuperman said:

first HD place.

Lol Pathetic.

Lets not include PC because it's not a console.

Lets not include the wii because it's not HD.

People will do anything to protect their egos.

The Highest PC sales of all the years from 2005-Nov2013 was Dell with 73 million PC's sold including laptops according to their October report (Does not include clones or unofficial sales). For your PC comment to make sense, you would have to combine all makes, which is nonsense.

As for the Wii comment, I did include the Wii that's why oit says second place, and I made a first HD place joke because the HD consoles are fighting for second and the media keeps separating them.

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#20 Posted by wolverine4262 (20831 posts) -

I came first.

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#21 Edited by starwolf474 (983 posts) -

As of November 2013, Xbox 360 was still in second place since it was announced that Xbox 360 crossed the 80 million mark about a month earlier than the PS3 was announced to have crossed the 80 million mark in November. Whether or not PS3 managed to catch up with Xbox 360 over the past 4 months, nobody can say for sure since we have no official numbers.

Really, they are so close to each other in sales that it doesn't matter who is slightly ahead; it can pretty much be considered a tie. I think the more important thing to look at is how much market share they gained/lost this gen. Sony lost over half of their market share from the previous generation while Microsoft tripled their market share by converting many former PlayStation fans, so I'm sure Microsoft was much happier with how the generation went than Sony was.

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#22 Posted by MassiveKaos (3876 posts) -

Id say the 360 as even tho sales were almost identical microsoft almost quadrupled its user based from the previous gen while sony lost half of theirs.

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#23 Posted by cainetao11 (32973 posts) -

@wolverine4262 said:

I came first.

If course you did! Look at her!

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#24 Edited by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

The Xbox 360 dominated for the first half of the generation no doubts, but near the end the PS3 did come back hard. I'd say it deserves to be a tie, they both did extremely well.

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#25 Posted by MonsieurX (36997 posts) -

If you're not first,you're last

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#26 Edited by OhSnapitz (19273 posts) -

@freedomfreak:

How was GTA V on the Wii? How about the Mass Effect series? Final fantasy? Virtual Fighter? Street Fighter VI? Resident Evil (not rail shooters)? Assassins Creed? Battlefield?

Yea.. lame indeed.

Who the he'll brags about a system that won first and received NO 3rd party support.

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#27 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

The 360 flopped at the end.

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#28 Posted by freedomfreak (50006 posts) -
@OhSnapitz said:

How was GTA V on the Wii? How about the Mass Effect series? Final fantasy? Virtual Fighter? Street Fighter VI? Resident Evil (not rail shooters)? Assassins Creed? Battlefield?

Yea.. lame indeed.

Who the he'll brags about a system that won first and received NO 3rd party support.

A. Wii got third party support, and a lot of great gems in the process. Exclusives, nonetheless.

B. It's obvious TC isn't referring to a system winning because of their software lineup.

Wii outsold both. Cows and lems argued an entire generation over 2nd place. Lame.

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#30 Posted by PAL360 (28865 posts) -

I would say PS3.

sales: Wii > PS3 > 360

library: 360 > PS3 > Wii

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#32 Posted by _Matt_ (10439 posts) -

It was a tie pretty much. The systems reached the same sales milestone within 1 month of each other. So most likely a draw.

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#33 Edited by foxhound_fox (96914 posts) -

If the "end" of the generation is taken as the launch of the Wii U (beginning of "next gen") then the 360 was in second place.

EDIT: Misremembered the Wii sales.

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#34 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (44862 posts) -

Does it even matter at this point?

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#35 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

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#36 Posted by MrXboxOne (799 posts) -

When the next gen started 360 was almost 2 million ahead. and is still about 2 million ahead now.

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#37 Posted by Dire_Weasel (16681 posts) -

The Wii was in first. Second place? Who cares?

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#38 Posted by happyduds77 (1688 posts) -

I think PS3, I don't know. There is currently no factual evidence that PS3 outsold Xbox 360 or vise versa, other than VGChartz.

But when it comes to game library.

PS3 > Wii > Xbox 360

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#39 Posted by LJS9502_basic (162499 posts) -

@mrxboxone said:

When the next gen started 360 was almost 2 million ahead. and is still about 2 million ahead now.

The last sales figures I've seen before the new consoles launched.....though that doesn't negate sales by the way.....were both at 80 million +. No way you can say the 360 was ahead. Tied at least......though I have heard the PS3 surpassed it....I'll use the last stats I've seen and say we can't say.

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#40 Posted by blamix (384 posts) -

3 websites shows ps3 came 2nd place, nothing shows the xbox360 came 2nd

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#41 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@blamix said:

3 websites shows ps3 came 2nd place, nothing shows the xbox360 came 2nd

sources please

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#42 Edited by blackace (23576 posts) -

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Does it even matter at this point?

Not really, since neither the PS3 or XBox 360 actually won.

If you look at it this way, you know who the clear winners were last gen.

Hardware sales

1. Wii

2. XBox 360 & PS3 (Tied until Sony/Microsoft announces new sales numbers).

Software sales

1. Wii

2. Xbox 360

3. PS3

Market shares

1. Wii

2. Xbox 360

3. PS3

Most games released.

1. Wii

2. Xbox 360

3. PS3

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#43 Posted by wolverine4262 (20831 posts) -

I also came second.

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#44 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@blamix said:

3 websites shows ps3 came 2nd place, nothing shows the xbox360 came 2nd

sources please

As long as none of them are VGChartz.com. You really can go by websites because they are never accurate. When Microsoft & Sony announced their 80 million sold, VGChartz sales numbers weren't even close.

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#45 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

Wii destroyed both, PS3 managed to match 360 despite being a year late. Pretty funny in retrospect.

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#46 Posted by GamingGod999 (3135 posts) -

Doesn't it end once all three consoles stop production?

You can still have more multiple generations active during a period of time.

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#47 Posted by clr84651 (5634 posts) -

PS3 and Sony for starting the race a year later and catching the 360 in sales. It was MS's race to lose to Sony and they managed to.

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#48 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

I am not sure who came in second. I just know as always, PC came in first.

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#49 Posted by OhSnapitz (19273 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

@OhSnapitz said:

How was GTA V on the Wii? How about the Mass Effect series? Final fantasy? Virtual Fighter? Street Fighter VI? Resident Evil (not rail shooters)? Assassins Creed? Battlefield?

Yea.. lame indeed.

Who the he'll brags about a system that won first and received NO 3rd party support.

A. Wii got third party support, and a lot of great gems in the process. Exclusives, nonetheless.

B. It's obvious TC isn't referring to a system winning because of their software lineup.

Wii outsold both. Cows and lems argued an entire generation over 2nd place. Lame.

Yes.. the wii finished in first place with nearly NO software releases the last two years of the cycle. Those aren't bragging rights friend.

..and what 3rd party support did the wii receive exactly?

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#50 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

PS3 and Sony for starting the race a year later and catching the 360 in sales. It was MS's race to lose to Sony and they managed to.

So MS gained marketshare, while sony lost a significant marketshare....but MS is the loser?