So the video game critic over at Forbes just absolutely ripped Sea of Thieves apart.

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#1 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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Look at those bullet points. And that last line is devastating. I'm thinking this isn't a good sign, lol.

But seriously, this just further proves how important good exclusives are for a console. The XB1/X1X is going to get a black eye over this game. If I were a fan of the system, this would be unacceptable.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/03/21/xbox-ones-sea-of-thieves-is-no-more-than-10-of-a-finished-game/#502d770126be

From the article:

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  • All three factions feel the same with nearly identical, radiant fetch quests that have you go to X island to get X thing and return without sinking/dying. Raids are just some waves of skeletons.
  • The islands are almost entirely lifeless. You can see them all in about a day of play, and they almost never house anything interesting other than your quest objective, however pretty they may be.
  • Enemy variety is almost non-existent, skeletons, snakes and an "endgame boss" kraken that has already been turned into a meme by players, as the thing is just tentacles with no actual body lurking under the water. Perhaps a metaphor for the entire game.
  • Progression is almost entirely cosmetic short of a couple new weapons and items. And while you can change your ship’s sails and paint, there are fundamentally still only two kinds of ships in this entire pirate game, which seems crazy.
  • PvP is a poorly thought-through griefing nightmare. Other players almost always attack on sight, derailing your quests or just being flat out annoying. My last three quests in a row, I went to turn in a chest and came back to find that someone had stolen my empty ship for literally no reason other than to be irritating. The last time, someone called me a "c***" on their mic as I tried to swim after my departing ship, and then shot me in the head. Good times. It’s The Division where the entire map is the Dark Zone, and it makes it incredibly hard for players to enjoy what little PvE content there is in peace.

That’s it. I can’t even make more than five bullet points because that’s almost the entire game right there."

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#2 stereointegrity
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Just popped up on my Google feed and I read it..... I wanted to get this game so badly ☹️

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#3  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Well Forbes is the go to source for game reviews...

Their GOTY for 2016 was Titanfall 2

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Sounds like a disaster. I was gonna download it when I get home today using my 14 day trial of Gamepass but I’ll hold off as I hear you can’t even get into servers right now if you’re new. Makes you wonder what Rare and MS have been doing for the past 4 years.

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The best thing about Sea of Thieves for MS is now they can quietly cancel Crackdown 3 since everyone is too busy laughing at this joke of a game to notice.

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#6  Edited By QuadKnight
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@goldenelementxl: Not a bad game to give GOTY to. I heard it was great.

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#7  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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"Xbox One's 'Sea Of Thieves' Is No More Than 10% Of A Finished Game"

Wow... And that's just the title of the article. Been watching reviews on YouTube and they are pretty brutal too. Even the known Xbox leaning streamers are laying into the game. Crapgamer might be the only one defending this game... Because he got to interview Rares boss or something.

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#8 deactivated-5e081d8b4abb0
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Another thread!

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#9 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@goldenelementxl: Lol. Dude, you can't argue with those bullets points. The game has very, very little content. Bringing up their GOTY is just damage control. Sea of Thieves is a 10$ game with a 60$ price tag.

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@quadknight: Titanfall 2 was very good. Would you put it above Uncharted 4, Dark Souls 3, Doom, Inside, Hitman, Overwatch? I could see putting it over UC4 and Overwatch, but that’s it.

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#11 stuff238
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I don’t understand how Rare or any video game company can sell an online only game for $90 Canadian and not allow new players to play it.

What a disaster. Where is Microsoft’s 300,000 servers they were bragging about years ago?

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#12  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@reduc_ab_: Sometimes you have to consider the source. I would consider Angry Joe more of a reputable source, and I can’t stand the guy.

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#13 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@goldenelementxl: Again, dude, this isn't even opinion. Those bullet points are factual for the most part. The game has hardly any content.

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#14 deactivated-5e081d8b4abb0
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@reduc_ab_ said:

@goldenelementxl: Again, dude, this isn't even opinion. Those bullet points are factual for the most part. The game has hardly any content.

Last bullet point sounds awesome! Lmao!

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@dagubot said:

Another thread!

Another comment!

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#16 lundy86_4
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It's sad when we need 5+ threads regarding the game. Holy shit. It isn't gonna set the world on fire... I think everyone gets that.

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#17 sailor232
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I see it getting slammed and rightfully so, the game is so much fun with friends but even then only for a short amount of time. It could be a great game in 6 months to a year but it's sold as a finished product so it should be rated as such.

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@goldenelementxl said:

@quadknight: Titanfall 2 was very good. Would you put it above Uncharted 4, Dark Souls 3, Doom, Inside, Hitman, Overwatch? I could see putting it over UC4 and Overwatch, but that’s it.

Titanfall 2 is a lesson to every other dev. 'This is how you make an FPS game'. That's GOTY worthy to me. UC4 is Uncharted as it always was and always will be. DS3 is basically the Bloodborne version of DS. Doom v Titanfall 2 sorry no, just no and similarly LOL to both Hitman and Overwatch even being in the same sentence as TF2.

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#19  Edited By Creepywelps
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Forbes is right, the game was all lem hype.

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#20 MonsieurX
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@lundy86_4 said:

It's sad when we need 5+ threads regarding the game. Holy shit. It isn't gonna set the world on fire... I think everyone gets that.

All made by cows to bash the game

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#21 Creepywelps
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@MonsieurX: Thats what happens on a forum called "system wars". Don't know why so many of you are acting surprised.

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6/10 gamespot, this game going to tank! LOL! Bye bye Crackdown 3.

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#24  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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3/21/2018 - The day Cows became cool with Titanfall 2 winning a GOTY award over UC4. All in an attempt to give credibility to a shit source who killed an Xbox game.

The mental gymnastics at his place are medal worthy. I was here in ‘16 hyping Titanfall 2 and none of you assholes were there fighting on my side then. So I’m not gonna sit by and watch everyone play these games now

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#25 stuff238
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@joshrmeyer: Yep. The game is bad confirmed. Rare really is a shell of its former self and it amazes me how they are still making games when it is quite clear the quality is not there.

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#26  Edited By Creepywelps
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@goldenelementxl said:

3/21/2018 - The day Cows became cool with Titanfall 2 winning a GOTY award over UC4. All in an attempt to give credibility to a shit source who killed an Xbox game.

The mental gymnastics at his place are medal worthy. I was here in ‘16 hyping Titanfall 2 and none of you assholes were there fighting on my side then. So I’m not gonna sit by and watch everyone play these games now

The real OG.

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@goldenelementxl: Why are you damage controlling for this game? Titanfall 2 isn’t my type of game so I would pick UC4 and DOOM over it for GOTY but just because it isn’t my type of game doesn’t mean I’m not objective enough to realize it’s a quality game in its own right. Bringing up the fact that the reviewer picked Titanfall 2 as their GOTY for 2016 as a slant against him is just plain silly.

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@goldenelementxl said:

3/21/2018 - The day Cows became cool with Titanfall 2 winning a GOTY award over UC4. All in an attempt to give credibility to a shit source who killed an Xbox game.

The mental gymnastics at his place are medal worthy. I was here in ‘16 hyping Titanfall 2 and none of you assholes were there fighting on my side then. So I’m not gonna sit by and watch everyone play these games now

Once again, you're damage controlling, which I suppose is why you've stopped replying to me. You are just trying to divert attention away from the fact that all of those bullet points are based in fact, not opinion. Sea of Thieves has hardly any content. Get over it.

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@quadknight: @reduc_ab_: I’m not damage controlling anything. Have I even said the name of the game in this thread? Why don’t we just wait for a source we would normally use? I’m pretty sure we will come to the same conclusion

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#30 LoganX77
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Alot of potential but it just sounds unfinished.

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@quadknight said:

@goldenelementxl: Why are you damage controlling for this game? Titanfall 2 isn’t my type of game so I would pick UC4 and DOOM over it for GOTY but just because it isn’t my type of game doesn’t mean I’m not objective enough to realize it’s a quality game in its own right. Bringing up the fact that the reviewer picked Titanfall 2 as their GOTY for 2016 as a slant against him is just plain silly.

Silly indeed. I have no idea what he thinks he's trying to pull, lol. All those bullet points are factual.

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#32 QuadKnight
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@goldenelementxl: What source? You mean GS? I stopped relying on GS a long time ago. I go by YouTube and MC these days and the game has been getting completely rekt on YT by the reviewers I usually visit. MC reviews are few but they are mixed so far.

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@goldenelementxl said:

@quadknight: @reduc_ab_: I’m not damage controlling anything. Have I even said the name of the game in this thread? Why don’t we just wait for a source we would normally use? I’m pretty sure we will come to the same conclusion

Dude, you're in a thread about a reviewer's article about a game, trying to discredit the reviewer. And you say you're not damage controlling. Gimme a break, sweetie.

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@goldenelementxl said:

3/21/2018 - The day Cows became cool with Titanfall 2 winning a GOTY award over UC4. All in an attempt to give credibility to a shit source who killed an Xbox game.

The mental gymnastics at his place are medal worthy. I was here in ‘16 hyping Titanfall 2 and none of you assholes were there fighting on my side then. So I’m not gonna sit by and watch everyone play these games now

Are you talking about me? I played the game for the first time a couple of weeks ago and was stunned at how good it is. So I'm not going to lie about how good it is so you can call me a 'cow' or some other juvenile bull (PC, PS4 and Xbox owner here write it down so you look less stupid in the future). I only replied to you because you attempted to discredit the reviewer because they gave TF2 GOTY now you are saying you were the f***ing cheerleader for the game all along.

Take your f***ing meds and go to bed.

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@quadknight: How many hype threads have you been to that have discussed the Forbes or CG Mag Online review scores as sources of ownage either way?

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#36  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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lol that's fine, he's free to give his opinion, even if it is only after a day the game launched and he couldn't have possibly been through it all. Clearly this is not the type of game for this kind of gamer, nor did it try to be that game with a clear and elaborate progression system, leveling up system, prestige modes, stats, etc. many other games out there with all that stuff, I have many sitting in my backlog.

I'm enjoying it for what it is and I accept that it wasn't tailored specifically for the hardcore gamer, I knew that from the beginning. It's a unique experience for me and I think it's great, lot of others feel the same too....I wasn't expecting this game to take on the world at all, and this is one of the few games that came out recently that I really want to play with some friends of mine and family members due to its accessibility. I never got into the other sandbox game, Minecraft, but I love the core gameplay of SOT. I look forward to playing it more and seeing it evolve over time, and if Rare wants me to spend more time in it, then they need to put in the effort with constant updates and such just like any other MMO game out there.

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@blueinheaven: If I’m taking about you, I tag you. Did I tag you? No? Hmm...

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@goldenelementxl said:

@blueinheaven: If I’m taking about you, I tag you. Did I tag you? No? Hmm...

It sure looked like you were replying to my reply but if you weren't fair enough, my apologies.

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It's a marmite game. I happen to love it so far, but it's way, way better with three friends. Server issues seem finished, but there are some nasty bugs that need ironing out.

It's a perfect advertisement for gamepass.... If I didn't like it, I move on to the next game at no added expense. I do, and it's convinced me that services like gamepass are the future of gaming.

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@reduc_ab_: Mmmmmm

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@goldenelementxl: They usually use MC scores and believe it or not CG Magazine is included in MC. I agree it’s a bit early to call it a flop based on MC alone but we have other sources like YouTube and it’s not getting rave reviews from the reputable YT reviewers out there. One can put two and two together and come to the conclusion that this game is an impending flop.

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#42 ZmanBarzel
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If this thread has shown me anything, it's that it's been too long since I've thrown in "Titanfall 2." Such a great game.

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@quadknight: Care to provide a list of these “reputable” Youtubers?

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#44  Edited By QuadKnight
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@goldenelementxl said:

@quadknight: Care to provide a list of these “reputable” Youtubers?

Why does it matter much to you if you claim you’re not damage controlling? For someone that supposedly “doesn’t care“ you’re asking a lot of questions in this thread and damage controlling.

One Youtuber I follow and I trust his opinion is...

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There are more but I’m not about to search through my YT history and subscription list to pull out every one of them for you.

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So many cows so many Sea of Thieves threads.

Its beyond sad that the cows have sooooooooooo many PS4 games, but can't stop talking about the ones they can't play.

Anyone know why that is???

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#46  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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It’s sad to see, as I think this could have been a very good game. It needed to be ready to go right from the start, and it wasn’t. People will lose interest fast, and it’s going to be hard to win them back later.

It makes me wonder what Rare was doing all this time. It’s been in development for awhile, and there’s hardly anything there.

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#47 Xabiss
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The game is just okay. It is a nice looking game with not much to do. I am more of a solo player so it isn't the game for me. I hope other people find enjoyment in it and I will check it out in a 3/6 months. That is the great part about Game Pass for me. :)

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#48  Edited By QuadKnight
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@i_p_daily said:

So many cows so many Sea of Thieves threads.

Its beyond sad that the cows have sooooooooooo many PS4 games, but can't stop talking about the ones they can't play.

Anyone know why that is???

More damage control. Its the biggest exclusive MS has released in more than a year and it’s flopping. If the roles were reversed and it was Sony in MS’ position you can’t lie and tell me lems wouldn’t do the same. The only reason you’re crying about it is because lems are on the receiving end. This place is called “System Wars” for a reason. Threads like this is why this forum was made.

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#49  Edited By ni6htmare01
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Things don’t look good for both MS and Rare. Is a shame that the game went through so many delays and end up with such a score.

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