So now that MS show is over what do you think was best at show from a MS ip perspective??

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Poll So now that MS show is over what do you think was best at show from a MS ip perspective?? (58 votes)

Fable 9%
South of Midnight 3%
Avowed 9%
MSFS 2024 3%
Hellblade 2 5%
Forza Motorsport 9%
Starfield 55%
Clockwork Revolution 5%
Towerborne 2%

So what did you like the most and why?

For me (predictably) it was Forza Motorsport.

On a side note the most disappointing was Fable.

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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Yea Fable by far was the most disappointing. And after all that complaining about Sony having movie games, the Hellblade 2 was literally a movie. Starfield sort of wins by default because they gave it an hour of air time.

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@SolidGame_basic: You didn't vote though, what was the best game, or does the inner cow not let you admit there was good games?

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#3 CanYouDiglt
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Just looking at all the damage control from Sony fans I would say all of them. Those fanboy nutcases are having a meltdown.

To pick one though it is easily Starfield. Not only does everything about it look amazing but it is not one of those 10 hour cinematic games. Starfield is going to go down as one of the greats in history.

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@last_lap said:

@SolidGame_basic: You didn't vote though, what was the best game, or does the inner cow not let you admit there was good games?

Lol I said in my post that Starfield wins by default.

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Starfield was best. That game made a famous Sony fanboy ragequit his stream it looked so good.

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Thought awoved looked pretty sweet and if there is someone I trust to make a good rpg it’s obsidian! Main concern is the 1.person perspective and melee combat, never quite seems to work imo!

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#7  Edited By deactivated-65dd04f21decf
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From what I saw, it was definitely a solid show. South of Midnight is intriguing. P3R/P5T are the stars for me. But Avowed and Path of the Goddess looked cool as well.

Better than Sony's show, for sheez.

...why didn't you include all the games shown? EDIT: guess you hit the limit, my bad.

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Didn't see anything I want to play, sadly. All of it was pretty boring stuff, or they didn't show the game.

Fable - Was a bit funny, but.. maybe show the game?
South of Midnight - Pretty cool theme. But.. game?
Avowed - An Elder Scrolls from not ES devs. I dunno, might be fun. The Outer Worlds wasn't much else than a smaller scale Fallout clone though, so I'm not exactly hyped.
MSFS - Sim games are zzz.
Hellblade - Movie games are zzz.
Forza - Again, not a fan of sim games.
Starfield - Meh.
Clockwork - Looks like a lower budget BioShock Infinite. Will probably be bad, in other words.
Towerborne - Pretty interesting. Haven't played the The Banner Saga games, but heard good things.

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we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

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#10  Edited By Mesome713
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@gifford38: No woke, go broke. 51% of console gamers are female. And it continues to grow. Being a Sony fanboy its clear to see your shock. PS5 is a dudebros console. Out of Xbox and Nintendo Switch, PS5 has the lowest amount of female gamers sitting at 41%. Which is sad. But Nintendo Switch has the highest at 52% ;)

Girls rule, guys tool.

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I'd like to see the actual gameplay of Fable. I liked the humor of the trailer. Hellblade 2 comes next but I've decided I wanted to play Hellblade 2 since beating the first. Starfield comes in 3rd for me.

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#12 sonny2dap
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Starfield was easily best in show

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#13 Gifford38
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@Litchie said:

Didn't see anything I want to play, sadly. All of it was pretty boring stuff, or they didn't show the game.

Fable - Was a bit funny, but.. maybe show the game?

South of Midnight - Pretty cool theme. But.. game?

Avowed - An Elder Scrolls from not ES devs. I dunno, might be fun. The Outer Worlds wasn't much else than a smaller scale Fallout clone though, so I'm not exactly hyped.

MSFS - Sim games are zzz.

Hellblade - Movie games are zzz.

Forza - Again, not a fan of sim games.

Starfield - Meh.

Clockwork - Looks like a lower budget BioShock Infinite. Will probably be bad, in other words.

Towerborne - Pretty interesting. Haven't played the The Banner Saga games, but heard good things.

forza is a arcade racer. its not gt7

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@djoffer123 said:

Thought awoved looked pretty sweet and if there is someone I trust to make a good rpg it’s obsidian! Main concern is the 1.person perspective and melee combat, never quite seems to work imo!

this is why i wish xbox went vr for games like this.

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@gifford38: No woke, go broke. 51% of console gamers are female. And it continues to grow. Being a Sony fanboy its clear to see your shock. PS5 is a dudebros console. Out of Xbox and Nintendo Switch, PS5 has the lowest amount of female gamers sitting at 41%. Which is sad. But Nintendo Switch has the highest at 52% ;)

Girls rule, guys tool.

I love female characters to but the more they are they start to blend in more. no more iconic female characters like lara croft or samis. Alloy starting to disappear from the rest of them but sony been pumping out more female leads more than any one lately. ratchet and clank, alloy, last of us 2, returnal, and more.

if games had a swim suit addition again it be really thick book lol.

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Starfield was number 1 for me. Also really liked:

- Fable

- Avowed

- Forza Motorsport

- Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

- Hellblade II

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The hate that Fable is getting in the YouTube comments is interesting.

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@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Speak of the devil lol

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#19  Edited By MysticalDonut
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@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

Didn't see anything I want to play, sadly. All of it was pretty boring stuff, or they didn't show the game.

Fable - Was a bit funny, but.. maybe show the game?

South of Midnight - Pretty cool theme. But.. game?

Avowed - An Elder Scrolls from not ES devs. I dunno, might be fun. The Outer Worlds wasn't much else than a smaller scale Fallout clone though, so I'm not exactly hyped.

MSFS - Sim games are zzz.

Hellblade - Movie games are zzz.

Forza - Again, not a fan of sim games.

Starfield - Meh.

Clockwork - Looks like a lower budget BioShock Infinite. Will probably be bad, in other words.

Towerborne - Pretty interesting. Haven't played the The Banner Saga games, but heard good things.

forza is a arcade racer. its not gt7

Forza Horizon is an arcade racer

Forza Motorsport is a sim racer

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#20 Litchie
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@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

Forza - Again, not a fan of sim games.

forza is a arcade racer. its not gt7

Isn't Forza Motorsport a racing sim? While Forza Horizon is arcade?

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@mysticaldonut said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Speak of the devil lol

that is what media is betraying white people lately. they are all racist and evil. we all want slavery back and must get on there hands and knees and say sorry for things they did not do.

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@Litchie said:
@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

Forza - Again, not a fan of sim games.

forza is a arcade racer. its not gt7

Isn't Forza Motorsport a racing sim? While Forza Horizon is arcade?

maybe it just felt more arcadey to me.

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#23 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Everything for you folks is woke. How insecure are you all? It is like this is the first time in your gaming experience in which developers are not specifically catering to you all .😎

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@gifford38 said:
@mysticaldonut said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Speak of the devil lol

that is what media is betraying white people lately. they are all racist and evil. we all want slavery back and must get on there hands and knees and say sorry for things they did not do.

There is plenty of white people in video games, in media in general today. I truly do not get it....

Like I said, The YT comments of the Fable trailer are all whining about this

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#25 blaznwiipspman1
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@last_lap: dude, they barely showed enough about fable to even be disappointed. I expect the game to launch in 2025

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#26 MysticalDonut
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Everything for you folks is woke. How insecure are you all? It is like this is the first time in your gaming experience in which developers are not specifically catering to you all .😎

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#27 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Everything for you folks is woke. How insecure are you all? It is like this is the first time in your gaming experience in which developers are not specifically catering to you all .😎

what 95 percent of gamers are males still. like going to a sports event and all they are showing is my little pony commercials.

thing is even fable a hipster giant in a fantasy game. its not the giant is black at least make it look like a giant would in fantasy stories. mind as well but space men in it.

then white female lead with black person hair. just doesn't look right. make her black then.

look at prince of persia 2d game. a persian with a black person hair dow.

make it look good and not political crap they are pushing.

like i said to someone else all the female characters are blending acting the same, sound the same even look the same.

no more ironic female characters. they are hurting the female role in video games.

gamers are going to get sick of the same female type characters.

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#28 Pedro
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@mysticaldonut: That is the Internet. 😂 I don't understand how a group that is so strongly represented in the past and now, can be so upset over the sprinkling of other groups in games. It reads as insecure and juvenile.

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Good lord man! 🤦‍♂️😅

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#30 Chutebox
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Clockwork looked best to me.

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#31 MysticalDonut
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@gifford38 said:
@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Everything for you folks is woke. How insecure are you all? It is like this is the first time in your gaming experience in which developers are not specifically catering to you all .😎

what 95 percent of gamers are males still. like going to a sports event and all they are showing is my little pony commercials.

thing is even fable a hipster giant in a fantasy game. its not the giant is black at least make it look like a giant would in fantasy stories. mind as well but space men in it.

then white female lead with black person hair. just doesn't look right. make her black then.

look at prince of persia 2d game. a persian with a black person hair dow.

make it look good and not political crap they are pushing.

like i said to someone else all the female characters are blending acting the same, sound the same even look the same.

no more ironic female characters. they are hurting the female role in video games.

gamers are going to get sick of the same female type characters.

You know the black giant in Fable is a real person right? He is a British comedian named Richard Ayoade

I don't think modern female characters are so generic that they are "blending in". Aloy, Ellie, Dina, Chloe Frazer are definitely not ugly.

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#32 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

what 95 percent of gamers are males still. like going to a sports event and all they are showing is my little pony commercials.

thing is even fable a hipster giant in a fantasy game. its not the giant is black at least make it look like a giant would in fantasy stories. mind as well but space men in it.

then white female lead with black person hair. just doesn't look right. make her black then.

look at prince of persia 2d game. a persian with a black person hair dow.

make it look good and not political crap they are pushing.

like i said to someone else all the female characters are blending acting the same, sound the same even look the same.

no more ironic female characters. they are hurting the female role in video games.

gamers are going to get sick of the same female type characters.

The amount of trash in your comment is unfathomable and to make matters worse you are raising kids with this level of ignorance. I thought it was limited to tech and SSDs but, apparently not. 🥴

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Starfield was the only MS game that got deep coverage and the rest were just shows of what's coming in the future such as Fable as Fable wasn't provided with gameplay at all. Starfield is the clear winner for MS IP as they went deep dive into what to expect from the game and my most anticipated game for 2023.

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#34  Edited By Gifford38
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@mysticaldonut said:
@gifford38 said:
@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

we promise we will not show cgi but we will not show gameplay either lol.

fable graphical looked good but do woke to enjoy trailer.

what is up with 90 percent female characters and 10 percent black?

diversity as long you leave white males out.

heck they even made a female version of han solo.

Everything for you folks is woke. How insecure are you all? It is like this is the first time in your gaming experience in which developers are not specifically catering to you all .😎

what 95 percent of gamers are males still. like going to a sports event and all they are showing is my little pony commercials.

thing is even fable a hipster giant in a fantasy game. its not the giant is black at least make it look like a giant would in fantasy stories. mind as well but space men in it.

then white female lead with black person hair. just doesn't look right. make her black then.

look at prince of persia 2d game. a persian with a black person hair dow.

make it look good and not political crap they are pushing.

like i said to someone else all the female characters are blending acting the same, sound the same even look the same.

no more ironic female characters. they are hurting the female role in video games.

gamers are going to get sick of the same female type characters.

You know the black giant in Fable is a real person right? He is a British comedian named Richard Ayoade

I don't think modern female characters are so generic that they are "blending in". Aloy, Ellie, Dina, Chloe Frazer are definitely not ugly.

I didn't say ugly I said act and look the same. tough no flaws and no character development.

yes I know he is a actor still make look fantasy fable world looking character.

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#35  Edited By Pedro
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@davillain said:

Starfield was the only MS game that got deep coverage and the rest were just shows of what's coming in the future such as Fable as Fable wasn't provided with gameplay at all. Starfield is the clear winner for MS IP as they went deep dive into what to expect from the game and my most anticipated game for 2023.

I believe all of that is intentional and was the setup of the show even with the show's title. They weren't going to allow any other game to overshadow Starfield.

With that said, this should be the expected format from MS. Focus on a specific game or games, and previews/hype for upcoming games.

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Probably Clockwork. Starfield looks like a Todd game, HB2 and Fable had laughable showings.

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#37  Edited By MysticalDonut
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@gifford38: Ellie and Chloe are very flawed characters. Their headstrongness, anger and unthinking actions both lead to big consequences for them in the third acts of both Uncharted Lost Legacy and TLOU Part II. They both struggle with having the loss of a father figure as well which is reflected in their acts and thought processes.

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#38  Edited By Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

what 95 percent of gamers are males still. like going to a sports event and all they are showing is my little pony commercials.

thing is even fable a hipster giant in a fantasy game. its not the giant is black at least make it look like a giant would in fantasy stories. mind as well but space men in it.

then white female lead with black person hair. just doesn't look right. make her black then.

look at prince of persia 2d game. a persian with a black person hair dow.

make it look good and not political crap they are pushing.

like i said to someone else all the female characters are blending acting the same, sound the same even look the same.

no more ironic female characters. they are hurting the female role in video games.

gamers are going to get sick of the same female type characters.

The amount of trash in your comment is unfathomable and to make matters worse you are raising kids with this level of ignorance. I thought it was limited to tech and SSDs but, apparently not. 🥴

ok yup stating facts and telling the truth is ignorance today. you have to lie about everything so you don't hurt any one feelings.

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Starfield, easily. The rest looked boring, and I don't understand what the hell the new Fable is.

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#40 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

ok yup stating facts and telling the truth is ignorance today. you have to lie about everything so you don't hurt any one feelings.

No! You are not stating facts. You have a history of not being familiar with facts or reality. It is also interesting you are spewing nonsense about having to lie about everything because of folks' feelings when you and the other goons like you are the most emotional over things like this because of your insecure feelings. Take the time to educate yourself. Aren't you tired of being corrected about your lack of knowledge on a topic?

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#41 palasta
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@mesome713 said:

@gifford38: No woke, go broke. 51% of console gamers are female. And it continues to grow. Being a Sony fanboy its clear to see your shock. PS5 is a dudebros console. Out of Xbox and Nintendo Switch, PS5 has the lowest amount of female gamers sitting at 41%. Which is sad. But Nintendo Switch has the highest at 52% ;)

Girls rule, guys tool.

You certainly are a tool. It is always raw numbers, usually limited to the US of Ass, no further explanation, no breakdown. But when looking closer a different picture emerges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games

There are differences between thevideo game genrespreferred, on average, by women and men. A 2017 report by the video game analytics company Quantic Foundry, based on surveys of about 270,000 gamers, found varying proportions of male and female players within different game genres.

Action RPG20%80%
Sandbox18%82%
Action-adventure18%82%
Sci-fi MMO16%84%Star Wars: The Old Republic (29% women)
Open world14%86%Assassin’s Creed Syndicate (27% women)
Turn-based strategy11%89%
MOBA10%90%
Grand strategy7%93%
First-person shooter7%93%
Racing6%94%Mario Kart Tour (40% women)
Tactical shooter4%96%
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#42 Litchie
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@Pedro: Bit crazy, yeah. Hard not to lose faith in humanity when there are parents who act like that. Idiocracy, here we come. I should probably start making some kids to counter the stupid ones..

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#43 Pedro
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@Litchie: You forced my hand.😂

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#44 Gifford38
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@Litchie said:

@Pedro: Bit crazy, yeah. Hard not to lose faith in humanity when there are parents who act like that. Idiocracy, here we come. I should probably start making some kids to counter the stupid ones..

so your saying gender is not being pushed today?

trans are not being pushed on our kids (4 year old getting things cut off).

woman putting men down to feel they need to reduce testosterone.

men petrade less muscular.

yup im stupid for bringing them out.

wake up

hatred and racist being pushed to white supremacy. (even biden been saying it)

all im saying woman is being pushed in the gaming and tv today. woman power men weak. she hulk and more.

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#45 Fedor
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WTF is this thread?

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#46 KvallyX
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Starfield. But I wish Fable had more game play, where we see people with a controller, controlling the protagonist.

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I haven't watched all the videos, but I'm still looking forward to Hellblade the most.

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#48 Ghost120x
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Forza, Avowed and Starfield are the only things that interest me. I wonder what’s going on with Stalker, State of Decay and Perfect Dark…

Again, Fable looks horrible… I’m getting a bad feeling about it.

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#49 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:
@Litchie said:

@Pedro: Bit crazy, yeah. Hard not to lose faith in humanity when there are parents who act like that. Idiocracy, here we come. I should probably start making some kids to counter the stupid ones..

so your saying gender is not being pushed today?

trans are not being pushed on our kids (4 year old getting things cut off).

woman putting men down to feel they need to reduce testosterone.

men petrade less muscular.

yup im stupid for bringing them out.

wake up

hatred and racist being pushed to white supremacy. (even biden been saying it)

all im saying woman is being pushed in the gaming and tv today. woman power men weak. she hulk and more.

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#50 KathaarianCode
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@davillain: You guy(s) should have 0 tolerance regarding this constant political nonsense being brought up every time there's a woman or a person of colour on a video game. As bad as it is, SW isn't really the place for this BS.