So now that CoD is finally dead

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#1 Posted by GiveMeSomething (1156 posts) -

What did people migrate to? I just tried CoD on ps4 and there are around 35k people online right now (dead pretty much) Which multiplayer games are active nowadays?

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#2 Posted by MonsieurX (36991 posts) -

It is?

Based on the PS4 game,really?

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#3 Edited by BldgIrsh (3044 posts) -

Ghosts was just plain bad... multiplayer and single player. The ending for single player was good... but that doesn't make up for the story in general <.<

Black Ops 2 tends to have more players online than ghosts.

But, cod being dead is far-fetched.

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#4 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (12728 posts) -

Yeah, because 35,000 players on one platform means an entire franchise is dead.

/sarcasm

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#5 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

At 35k it's probably the 2nd most popular mp game on PS 4. BF 4 has 37k right now so I guess that means BF is dead now too.

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#6 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

in what world is COD dead?

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#7 Edited by Roler42 (1067 posts) -

35k players on the newest platform with the lowest install base and the least popular title in the franchise means the whole franchise is dead...

I heard about exaggerations but you sure take the prize TC

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#8 Edited by thehig1 (6230 posts) -

35k people is quite a lot, take into account other platforms its probably one of the most popular online games. God knows why people play it so much.

All military online shooters bore me, its basically paintball on repeat.

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#9 Edited by GiveMeSomething (1156 posts) -

I don't know, I just want a populated game

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#10 Posted by 06 (998 posts) -

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

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#11 Posted by BldgIrsh (3044 posts) -

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Pretty much why people like CoD so much.

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#12 Posted by JangoWuzHere (19032 posts) -

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

The weapons do have recoil. The recoil is on a much small scale because the maps are small and game pace is much faster then Battlefield.

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#13 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@bldgirsh said:

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Pretty much why people like CoD so much.

LOL NO! Arena fps have no recoil so why aren't those as popular as CoD?

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#14 Posted by 06 (998 posts) -

@JangoWuzHere:

Hmmm, maybe I didn't look hard enough but I really didn't see any. I don't really find that a good excuse, battlefield doesn't reduce recoil when in tighter smaller areas, it just seems like there trying to make the game easier for players, but a more accessible game isn't a bad thing.

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#15 Posted by NFJSupreme (6516 posts) -

COD is dead to me but it's not dead.

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#16 Posted by GiveMeSomething (1156 posts) -

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Yeah, earlier today I played 2 matches and that was it, i couldn't play it anymore, so boring... I'm now playing plants vs zombies, now that's a fun game lol (u wouldn't believe it know xD)

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#17 Edited by Shielder7 (5191 posts) -

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#18 Posted by 06 (998 posts) -

@bldgirsh:

That could be why it attracts so many kids, you don't have to be as accurate so it does make it easier never thought of that.

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#19 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@06 said:

@bldgirsh:

That could be why it attracts so many kids, you don't have to be as accurate so it does make it easier never thought of that.

No it's because it takes 2 bullets to the foot to get a kill and you get to spawn with your fav weapon. Arena shooters have no recoil but require tons of damage to get a kill.

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#20 Posted by 06 (998 posts) -

@GiveMeSomething:

Really, never expected that to be any fun, I may have to look at some gameplay, but do teh plants has the recoil? LOL

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#21 Posted by BldgIrsh (3044 posts) -

@06 said:

@bldgirsh:

That could be why it attracts so many kids, you don't have to be as accurate so it does make it easier never thought of that.

Basically, a game that requires skill narrows the audience. Have a sniper rifle and across the map? Don't worry you can quickscope the target perfectly without worrying about distance and sway.

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#22 Posted by 06 (998 posts) -

@Cranler:

That's right, just remembered, but those spawn times in CoD, is it like .5secs to spawn after death, was I imagining that?

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#23 Posted by BldgIrsh (3044 posts) -

@06: Respawns is instantaneous. Except certain game modes like CTF and SnD.

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#24 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -

Called it.

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#25 Posted by JangoWuzHere (19032 posts) -

@06 said:

@JangoWuzHere:

Hmmm, maybe I didn't look hard enough but I really didn't see any. I don't really find that a good excuse, battlefield doesn't reduce recoil when in tighter smaller areas, it just seems like there trying to make the game easier for players, but a more accessible game isn't a bad thing.

Well, the movement and general feel in Call of Duty is much faster and snapier. The movement in Battlefield is much slower and a bit more tactical. You have to focus on accuracy and control in Battlefield while Call of Duty is about outpacing your opponent and reaction time.

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#26 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@06 said:

@Cranler:

That's right, just remembered, but those spawn times in CoD, is it like .5secs to spawn after death, was I imagining that?

Arena shooters have instaspawn as well.

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#28 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Heirren said:

Called it.

I think Advanced Warfare will sell great. I doubt CoD will ever die.

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#29 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -

@Cranler: it is on the way out and has been for awhile.

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#30 Posted by blamix99 (2685 posts) -

CoD died after MW3 for me

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#31 Edited by nutcrackr (13029 posts) -

nearly dead cod is still better than 95% of games, it has a long way to go before it dies for realz. AW will still do strongly.

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#32 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

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@Cranler: it is on the way out and has been for awhile.

Black Ops 2 broke sales records when it released. Ghosts sold less but that's just one game. Still though there's more people playing Ghosts than any other console shooter.

Why would you think it's going out? People always cite guitar games and Tony Hawk but music and skateboarding simply don't gel with videogaming like shooters do. If CoD dies it would mean that shooters are dying which is as likely to happen as the NFL dying.

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#33 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@Heirren said:

@Cranler: it is on the way out and has been for awhile.

Black Ops 2 broke sales records when it released. Ghosts sold less but that's just one game. Still though there's more people playing Ghosts than any other console shooter.

Why would you think it's going out? People always cite guitar games and Tony Hawk but music and skateboarding simply don't gel with videogaming like shooters do. If CoD dies it would mean that shooters are dying which is as likely to happen as the NFL dying.

While it sold a lot, I think there was still a reported decline with BO2 relative to MW3

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#34 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@Heirren said:

@Cranler: it is on the way out and has been for awhile.

Black Ops 2 broke sales records when it released. Ghosts sold less but that's just one game. Still though there's more people playing Ghosts than any other console shooter.

Why would you think it's going out? People always cite guitar games and Tony Hawk but music and skateboarding simply don't gel with videogaming like shooters do. If CoD dies it would mean that shooters are dying which is as likely to happen as the NFL dying.

While it sold a lot, I think there was still a reported decline with BO2 relative to MW3

Don't have the final tallies of the games to compare. 6-7 million sales would probably be enough to make a little profit. Ghosts sold at least 16 million copies.

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#35 Posted by Wasdie (53493 posts) -

35k people playing is dead?

That's a strong community.

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#36 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

35k people playing is dead?

That's a strong community.

This.

Plus there's a lot of casual gamers who only buy 1 or 2 games a year. When a game sells 33 million copies like GTA V did last year it's certainly going to take sales away from other games that appeal to casuals.

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#37 Posted by KungfuKitten (24776 posts) -

I played so much MOH:Allied Assault back in the day that I wonder whether I will ever be interested in braindead run and gun games like COD again.

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#38 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@KungfuKitten said:

I played so much MOH:Allied Assault back in the day that I wonder whether I will ever be interested in braindead run and gun games like COD again.

How is MOH AA less braindead? I remember people would run n gun while leaning in that game.

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#39 Edited by blangenakker (3240 posts) -

um, 35k is no where near dead

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#40 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@blangenakker said:

um, 35k is no where near dead

Plus we must remember that consolites are fragmented between 4 consoles. Add them up and there's about 200k concurrent players.

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#41 Posted by MBirdy88 (12185 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@bldgirsh said:

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Pretty much why people like CoD so much.

LOL NO! Arena fps have no recoil so why aren't those as popular as CoD?

Because Arena Shooters demanding alot more in movement and map knowledge and power domination. a higher skill cieling, and a higher point of entry.

That and cmon... same as sports games really.... WW1/2 shooters were quite popular... but suddenly relating CoD4 to the on going iraq war theme ..... just appealed to so many more casual gamers than ever before.

Quake/UT are alien in comparison.

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#42 Edited by R3FURBISHED (12395 posts) -

@GiveMeSomething said:

So now that CoD is finally dead

It's not

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#43 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@Cranler said:

@bldgirsh said:

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Pretty much why people like CoD so much.

LOL NO! Arena fps have no recoil so why aren't those as popular as CoD?

Because Arena Shooters demanding alot more in movement and map knowledge and power domination. a higher skill cieling, and a higher point of entry.

That and cmon... same as sports games really.... WW1/2 shooters were quite popular... but suddenly relating CoD4 to the on going iraq war theme ..... just appealed to so many more casual gamers than ever before.

Quake/UT are alien in comparison.

It was a rhetorical question. I was pointing out that no recoil does't automatically make a game noob friendly.

You left out the fact that in most arena fps you have to be proficient with all weapons to do well while in CoD you only have to be good with one weapon to do well.

Arena fps typically require quite a bit more damage to get a kill. In CoD you can get a kill with an assault rifle with 2 bullets. The starting weapon in Quake Live is a machine gun that does 5 points of damage per bullet. This reduces the luck factor. In CoD you can kill anyone no matter how good if you see them before they see you while in Quake a better player can turn around and frag you if he's better.

I say those two factors are just as big as the movement and timing.

What made CoD 4 so popular was the added customization, unlocks and killstreaks. GRAW wasn't super popular.

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#44 Posted by lamprey263 (34612 posts) -

I dabbled in COD4 multiplayer, then Battlefield Bad Company came out and I never looked back. Still played the games for the SP until the SP side of stuff started sucking, after Black Ops and MW3 I said goodbye to the series for good. Anyhow, I could forgive the SP side of Battlefield beginnig to suck over time, after all there was great emphasis put on the MP and that's what I loved, but after Battlefield 4 I'm beginning to think there might not be much of a future for the series. Now I'm beginning to question "what's next?".

Well, I hope the upcoming Battlefronts game is epic.

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#45 Posted by KillzoneSnake (2300 posts) -

35k playing doesn't sound dead to me. That is a lot of casuals playing a casual game.

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#46 Posted by sukraj (27389 posts) -

@NFJSupreme said:

COD is dead to me but it's not dead.

its dead and buried

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#47 Posted by ninjaxams (7480 posts) -

@bldgirsh said:

@06 said:

Why do people play CoD so much? Saw Advanced warfare and was actually thinking of getting my first call of duty game, but then I saw that guns have NO recoil, it's like your shooting a water gun... Never mind even water guns have some type of recoil, and that just bothered me, maybe it's just me being too picky, then I saw some hard line online gamplay and it actually looked fun, so I'm thinking battlefield right now, oh and the guns in battlefield sound like real guns and also recoil.

Pretty much why people like CoD so much.

um compared to firing a real life firearm no game has accurate recoil in any game ever. most of these armchair warriors couldn't handle a ak-47 pumping 7.62 on full auto. would be funny as hell to watch though lol.