Should the Sony CEO Step down?

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#1 Posted by ProtossRushX (5591 posts) -

He called us gamers "niche" and were a huge fucking market bigger than movies etc GTA 5 made more money than any movie ever.

IM NOT NICHE WHEN I BUY YOUR CRAP!

He also betrayed Playstation by teaming up with Microsoft Azure a direct competitor.

Its time we need a new direction one that is in line with the PS1 and the PS2 and just crushes its enemies and doesn't call us niche or crap like that.

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#2 Posted by DaVillain- (37415 posts) -

Tell us how you really feel.

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#3 Edited by R4gn4r0k (31402 posts) -

What is thy bidding, my master?

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#4 Posted by Fedor (5261 posts) -

Niche consumer is upset that he's niche.

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#5 Posted by Subspecies (660 posts) -

So freakin' sensitive.

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#6 Posted by xantufrog (11608 posts) -

lolcatz

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#7 Edited by Shewgenja (21456 posts) -

100 million PS4s sell in the course of 5 and a half years while 100 million iPhones can sell in the space of months. It's not like the dude was exactly wrong. You're taking some Japanese quote out of context and spinning it into something it's not.

They know their ship is sailing with wind from the gaming industry in its sails. You cant blame them for wanting to expand their horizons to a certain degree. Hence, the gaming movie studio thing and an emphasis on streaming platforms.

How about saving the freak outs for when they announce ps5 will be the next water cooler?

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#9 Posted by jaydan (2386 posts) -

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#10 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (19128 posts) -

Lol... cows in full meltdown

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#11 Posted by Pedro (35379 posts) -

Well, you all supported OP before might as well continue to support his madness now.

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#12 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (10060 posts) -

There's no reason for him to step down. Sony's generating record profits and he's doing a great job of transforming Sony into a much more sustainable business.

- Consoles are absolutely niche when you look at other devices and even other gaming platforms like mobile. (Sony excels at niche products / markets!!!)

- Azure isn't a direct competitor. And just because you compete doesn't mean you can't use their products and services or collaborate on things.

Ex. Netflix uses AWS. iPhones use Samsung screens and, Sony cameras. Microsoft develops software for iOS and Mac OS. etc.

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#13 Edited by robert_sparkes (3218 posts) -

I agree with the above whilst making record profits it's foolish the position should be in question.

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#14 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

I couldn't care less.

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#15 Posted by Ant_17 (12697 posts) -

Lol, great threat TC.

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#16 Posted by Xabiss (2852 posts) -

ROFLMAO... Perfect example of why cows are the worse fanboys in the industry. Thanks for help prove that!

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#17 Edited by PSP107 (17493 posts) -

@Shewgenja:"100 million PS4s sell in the course of 5 and a half years while 100 million iPhones can sell in the space of months. It's not like the dude was exactly wrong."

I didn't read his entire qoute, but I wouldn't consider consoles(including Xone/Switch) selling over 200 million units a niche market. That's like calling the NFL a niche market.

@subspecies said:

So freakin' sensitive.

People are waaaay to attached to they're favorite brand.

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#18 Edited by Son-Goku7523 (955 posts) -

Go take your meds and stroll outside OP.

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#19 Posted by ProtossRushX (5591 posts) -
@Nonstop-Madness said:

There's no reason for him to step down. Sony's generating record profits and he's doing a great job of transforming Sony into a much more sustainable business.

- Consoles are absolutely niche when you look at other devices and even other gaming platforms like mobile. (Sony excels at niche products / markets!!!)

- Azure isn't a direct competitor. And just because you compete doesn't mean you can't use their products and services or collaborate on things.

Ex. Netflix uses AWS. iPhones use Samsung screens and, Sony cameras. Microsoft develops software for iOS and Mac OS. etc.

Yeah but why can't they get Kaz Hirai back? That guy wouldn't do this crap he was anti microsoft and was into playstation unlike this new CEO.

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#20 Posted by Pedro (35379 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

People are waaaay to attached to they're favorite brand.

Yep, because they lack self worth.

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#21 Posted by dagubot (1366 posts) -

Wow...lmao.

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#22 Posted by Daniel_Su123 (1073 posts) -

@ProtossRushX: Because if Sony was to work in isolation, how would they compete in a potentially disruptive market? Sorry but Sony refusing to collaborate is guaranteeing them irrelevancy and bankruptcy in this day in age.

Like people here say, the new Sony CEO is realistic.

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#23 Posted by lamprey263 (36172 posts) -

I expected such threads on this issue to be created by a fakeboy alt account, how disappointing.

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#24 Posted by I_P_Daily (12273 posts) -

Bout time the OP made a good thread LOL.

Its funny because if a lem calls a cow niche he gets sales, scores and all sorts of shit thrown at them, but when their overlord calls them niche cows attack lems with sales, scores and shit lol.

TCHBO.

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#25 Posted by lundy86_4 (53601 posts) -

You continue to show your complete... Lack of comprehension. Stop making topics, or just stop posting.

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#26 Edited by Jag85 (13595 posts) -
@ProtossRushX said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

There's no reason for him to step down. Sony's generating record profits and he's doing a great job of transforming Sony into a much more sustainable business.

- Consoles are absolutely niche when you look at other devices and even other gaming platforms like mobile. (Sony excels at niche products / markets!!!)

- Azure isn't a direct competitor. And just because you compete doesn't mean you can't use their products and services or collaborate on things.

Ex. Netflix uses AWS. iPhones use Samsung screens and, Sony cameras. Microsoft develops software for iOS and Mac OS. etc.

Yeah but why can't they get Kaz Hirai back? That guy wouldn't do this crap he was anti microsoft and was into playstation unlike this new CEO.

Kaz Hirai was the best CEO that Sony has had in decades. Under Kaz, the PlayStation, Electronics, Movies, Music and image-sensor branches of the company all began making a comeback. So the new CEO Kenichiro Yoshida has some big boots to fill. But it's too soon to judge him. So far, he seems to be doing a good job of building on the groundwork laid down by Kaz.

Just for the record, Yoshida's comments about console gamers doesn't hold a candle compared to the insulting remarks that Nintendo's former boss Hiroshi Yamauchi made about gamers. He was proud of the fact that he had never played any video games in his life. And he referred to RPG players as "depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games." Yet Nintendo, and the game industry as a whole, owes a lot to Yamauchi. He was a very effective businessman, and that's what matters most.

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#27 Edited by phbz (4565 posts) -

Yes, I think we can all agree that executives must have the cognitive power of a retarded fanboy. That's like the first thing any corporation checks before any major hiring.

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#28 Posted by onesiphorus (2927 posts) -

Why do you care for the CEO of a company that you have no financial stake in to resign?

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#29 Posted by adsparky (1435 posts) -

I miss Kaz too but he won't come back.

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#30 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (4850 posts) -

What? Really? I don't think I heard him say they were abandoning console gaming. But, extremes, man. Extremes.

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#31 Edited by ZmanBarzel (1962 posts) -

“If you look at the game industry as a whole, the console market is not a major market, rather it's a niche market, if you will.”

Where exactly is Jim Ryan wrong with that statement?

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#32 Posted by PC_Rocks (2550 posts) -

Yup, he definitely should. He's a lemming alt.

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#33 Edited by mrbojangles25 (44091 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

There's no reason for him to step down. Sony's generating record profits and he's doing a great job of transforming Sony into a much more sustainable business.

- Consoles are absolutely niche when you look at other devices and even other gaming platforms like mobile. (Sony excels at niche products / markets!!!)

- Azure isn't a direct competitor. And just because you compete doesn't mean you can't use their products and services or collaborate on things.

Ex. Netflix uses AWS. iPhones use Samsung screens and, Sony cameras. Microsoft develops software for iOS and Mac OS. etc.

Yeah but why can't they get Kaz Hirai back? That guy wouldn't do this crap he was anti microsoft and was into playstation unlike this new CEO.

lol anti-microsoft

did it ever occur to you that this is the direction things might have been going, cooperation rather than pointless competition, and it's better to get on board a new ship than sink on an old one?

@zmanbarzel said:

“If you look at the game industry as a whole, the console market is not a major market, rather it's a niche market, if you will.”

Where exactly is Jim Ryan wrong with that statement?

Love how the quote is being taken out of context. "HE IS CALLING PS4 NICHE!" no, he is calling gaming niche. And it is.

Compared to people that watch TV, people that listen to music, hell even people that read...gamers are niche.

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#34 Posted by ni6htmare01 (3789 posts) -

Lol whatever.

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#35 Posted by Bluestars (181 posts) -

If anyone knows of a helpline phone number for these poor PS4 fanboys please put It up

Bending the knee to ms,soon losing exclusives and being called niche by their master has sent them over the edge

Or you could buy both consoles and enjoy being a real console gamer

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#36 Posted by tormentos (29228 posts) -

@Xabiss said:

ROFLMAO... Perfect example of why cows are the worse fanboys in the industry. Thanks for help prove that!

The more you try to picture cows as worse the more you look like a blind desperate lemming.

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#37 Posted by tormentos (29228 posts) -

Is a niche market compare to mobile which is a recent market yet almost double the console revue make.

Get over it.

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#38 Posted by Telekill (8538 posts) -

I don't think people should be fired for having an opinion.

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#39 Posted by Pedro (35379 posts) -

@tormentos: I am not sure what mobile being a "recent" market has to do with anything.

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#40 Posted by tormentos (29228 posts) -

@Pedro said:

@tormentos: I am not sure what mobile being a "recent" market has to do with anything.

That in a short period of time basically is making as much money as the 2 biggest markets combined.

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#41 Posted by Xabiss (2852 posts) -
@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

ROFLMAO... Perfect example of why cows are the worse fanboys in the industry. Thanks for help prove that!

The more you try to picture cows as worse the more you look like a blind desperate lemming.

Every time you respond to my post you are just proving me right. Thanks again! You make this so easy.

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#42 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (13677 posts) -

Another quality thread by tc. Thanks for the lulz.

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#43 Posted by foxhound_fox (98011 posts) -

Oh, that salt. I could keep my french fries good and tasty for the rest of my life with all this salt.

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#44 Edited by Ten_Pints (3864 posts) -

Did someone abuse you when you were young? It's OK the bad man can't get you now.

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#45 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (813 posts) -

Consoles are dying my friend. Tbh, PC gaming will probably die too, but cloud gaming actually has a real chance of becoming something? Idk. I like to think so Times are changing, and traditional gaming is affected by them.

People complain about not owning their games nowadays, but at the same time, no one cares to buy physical media. Especially on PC (People are buying in mass on places like Steam, Origin, and Ubisoft Store.), no one really cares about the actual physical ownership of a copy. It was never really important if you wanna be honest. Convenience is what sells. No more downloading games play instantly as soon as buy them, don't have to worry about hard drive space. Gaming is niche but there are directions that companies can take to reduce the cost of gaming by cloud gaming. Gamers gonna game regardless.

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#46 Edited by schu (10054 posts) -

@ProtossRushX: Yes, he should step down. Pretty epic that he would insult his own customers. I'm a hardcore hermit through and through, but it just makes me sad to see them refuse to put up a fight.

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#47 Posted by SuperfluousReal (361 posts) -

@ten_pints said:

Did someone abuse you when you were young? It's OK the bad man can't get you now.

You have projection issues.

This thread has no objective.

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#48 Edited by WhatAFailure (406 posts) -

Um, no?

I don't quite agree with the "niche" usage, but I still understand what he was trying to get at. Talking to investors, he wants to emphasize the importance of streaming, seamlessness and immersion next gen. And that's going to involve putting more energy into different areas than last generation. Hence why he wanted to look at the bigger picture (there be money in streaming services!), and not just repeat the same traditional methods as before. He wasn't making fun of console owners or Sony itself in that interview (obvious to anyone who read it).

Now, if he constantly said weird crap and lead Sony down multiple bad roads, then I'd call for his resignation. But so far I haven't seen him blunder the way the previous Xbox One director did (Mattrick), who didn't even look like the kind of guy into video games at all.

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#49 Posted by AJStyles (1001 posts) -

Every single person I know owns at least 1 console in their home.

It didn’t matter if they casual gamers or not. They had something.

Gaming isn’t niche especially PlayStation.

Now Nintendo? Yeah, they are niche.

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#50 Edited by Kali-B1rd (2242 posts) -

When console gaming makes up less than 25% of the market revanue, yes it certainly isn't the biggest player. Even if it is increasing (likely as its finally catching up with service based games).

Desperate Sony fans are not seeing the big picture.

PUBG's audience grew 150-200 million as soon as it went to android. Some of these singular games earn more than the entirity of the exclusive library of a console in 1 year.

Gating games behind £300 devices + periperals + subscripts and having to make games for 6 year old hardware aare going to become "niche" concepts in the next few years... they are going to be replaced by people paying £10 a month to play 100s of games without only slightly decreased image quality. On any device, be it thier TV, Monitor, Phone, Projector.

PSNOW is a solid proof of concept. With the weight of Google, Amazon and Azure ... this is the future.