Should Sony launch dual SKUs to combat Next Gen Xbox's rumored Dual SKU?

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Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) 4 months, 6 days ago

Poll: Should Sony launch dual SKUs to combat Next Gen Xbox's rumored Dual SKU? (49 votes)

Absolutely. 16%
Maybe. 16%
Not really. 20%
No way! 47%
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The industry has shown that it can support dual SKUs and the next gen Xbox is also rumored to continue this.

What's your stance on these?

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#1 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

No.

1 sku and an upgrade in the middle is enough.

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#2 Posted by mandzilla (4188 posts) -

Maybe a 4K model and a 1080p model for us cheapskates.

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5d78760d7d740 (16386 posts) -

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

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#4 Posted by GoldenElementXL (3418 posts) -

Sony shouldn’t copy a damn thing the 3rd place squad is doing. That’s just dumb

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#5 Posted by Vaidream45 (2034 posts) -

Simplicity always wins. 3ds, xbone, steam machines, and others have all lost sales due to confusing customers with too many skus.

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#6 Posted by Random_Matt (4317 posts) -

I would only buy the stronger one anyway.

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#7 Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) -

@mandzilla said:

Maybe a 4K model and a 1080p model for us cheapskates.

1080p model anywhere around $ 300-400 will probably be impulse territory for a huge market.

@vaidream45 said:

Simplicity always wins. 3ds, xbone, steam machines, and others have all lost sales due to confusing customers with too many skus.

The impact of this might be harder to gauge as the 3DS and PS4 have multiple SKUs and may be considered the winners of their respective direct competition.

Extending that, PC and mobile has even more variable and continue to gain traction specially in Asia.

@goldenelementxl said:

Sony shouldn’t copy a damn thing the 3rd place squad is doing. That’s just dumb

If it seems more like a pro consumer, maybe they can do their own twist on it or even better versions of it. Regardless of whether it looks "copied" or not.

I'm not sure if it's a bad idea for Sony to host free cloud saves for their consoles like Xbox but I guess one could argue that's a wasted resource instead of just creating a new game.

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#8 Posted by Archangel3371 (28512 posts) -

Maybe.

Personally I’ll most likely go for the more powerful SKU but there could very well be a strong enough demand to support a dual SKU launch.

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#9 Posted by lundy86_4 (53799 posts) -

For the difference in standard and high-end consumers, it might be worth it. Address two markets effectively, rather than a middling solution. It really depends on what's offered at the end of the day.

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#10 Posted by Son-Goku7523 (955 posts) -

@goldenelementxl said:

Sony shouldn’t copy a damn thing the 3rd place squad is doing. That’s just dumb

^ ^

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#11 Posted by pdogg93 (1668 posts) -

Why would Sony follow MS off a cliff?

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#12 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@XVision84 said:

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

Yeah $500, Oh I do remember the Cows saying that was too high for the X1X.

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#13 Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) -

@Archangel3371 said:

Maybe.

Personally I’ll most likely go for the more powerful SKU but there could very well be a strong enough demand to support a dual SKU launch.

Yup. Even if the demand isn't strong per se, it just has to be profitable enough for them. In fact you can center products as snob effect, high margin low volume style.

I don't have proof but I can easily see Sony even a much more powerful, limited edition $ 999 PS5 of 100,000 units world wide. Anecdotal but if you've been with the company of young upper middle class, that's nothing. These aren't a few people either. Now the Pro unit at $ 999 with super beefed up specs are unlikely to happen but around $ 499 or a little more seem easy.

@lundy86_4 said:

For the difference in standard and high-end consumers, it might be worth it. Address two markets effectively, rather than a middling solution. It really depends on what's offered at the end of the day.

That's true. On almost all market segments this exist but I guess to some this hypothetical one SKU PS5 are one of the few bastions of comfort away from such a common practice across many markets. I can sympathize.

As for a middling solution, that might still even happen if a one SKU PS5 sits between the dual SKUs of next gen xbox both in power and price.

Right. features to price is a major factor.

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#14 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:
@XVision84 said:

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

Yeah $500, Oh I do remember the Cows saying that was too high for the X1X.

How about we hear the price 1st before you spew lem gibiresh at me?

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5d78760d7d740 (16386 posts) -

@xhawk27: $500 isn't bad, Microsoft screwed up x1x because their competition was $100 cheaper and more powerful.

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#16 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:
@XVision84 said:

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

Yeah $500, Oh I do remember the Cows saying that was too high for the X1X.

How about we hear the price 1st before you spew lem gibiresh at me?

That is the rumor of the cost of the PS5.

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#17 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:
@XVision84 said:

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

Yeah $500, Oh I do remember the Cows saying that was too high for the X1X.

How about we hear the price 1st before you spew lem gibiresh at me?

That is the rumor of the cost of the PS5.

I see you believe any rumor.

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#18 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:
@XVision84 said:

@Ant_17: This. One well priced model to rule them all!

Yeah $500, Oh I do remember the Cows saying that was too high for the X1X.

How about we hear the price 1st before you spew lem gibiresh at me?

That is the rumor of the cost of the PS5.

I see you believe any rumor.

The Cows only believe in rumors that are negative against Xbox. lol

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#19 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -
@xhawk27 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:

That is the rumor of the cost of the PS5.

I see you believe any rumor.

The Cows only believe in rumors that are negative against Xbox. lol

And you don't?

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#20 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (4996 posts) -

Stick with the mid-gen refresh model. Xbox is a bum ass platform right now. MS has to release hardware all the time because their games get no attention. Xbox shouldn't be the model to follow for anything until they can prove their worth in the market again.

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#21 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@xhawk27 said:

That is the rumor of the cost of the PS5.

I see you believe any rumor.

The Cows only believe in rumors that are negative against Xbox. lol

And you don't?

I don't believe in rumors most of the time, in less it is from a creditable source.

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#22 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@xhawk27: Yet you belive the PS5 will be 500 bucks.

What a joke.

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#23 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@XVision84 said:

@xhawk27: $500 isn't bad, Microsoft screwed up x1x because their competition was $100 cheaper and more powerful.

The PS4 pro is more powerful than the X1X? LOL

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#24 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

@xhawk27: Yet you belive the PS5 will be 500 bucks.

What a joke.

I believe it because if it's less than that it will be weak for a Next Gen system.

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5d78760d7d740 (16386 posts) -

@xhawk27: Whoops, silly me, I meant the xbox one. Regarding x1x, it's a great console but ultimately held back by Microsoft's struggles this gen.

$400 is ideal but $500 is doable, you just need to be able to justify that price.

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#26 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@xhawk27: So what? They aren't chasing pure power, unlike the Bone.

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#27 Posted by xhawk27 (11371 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

@xhawk27: So what? They aren't chasing pure power, unlike the Bone.

If the next Xbox doesn't have One in it's name, are you guys still going to call it Bone?

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#28 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@xhawk27: Yes. best thing MS did this gen. Made the dumbest name to call their console.

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#29 Edited by Sevenizz (4061 posts) -

Not a big deal to me. I don’t plan on buying the next playstation. I’m buying the next Xbox - the premium version.

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#30 Posted by ni6htmare01 (3794 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

@xhawk27: Yes. best thing MS did this gen. Made the dumbest name to call their console.

Can't beat the name Bone SAD.. Who comes up with name like that lol??

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#31 Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) -

@ni6htmare01 said:
@Ant_17 said:

@xhawk27: Yes. best thing MS did this gen. Made the dumbest name to call their console.

Can't beat the name Bone SAD.. Who comes up with name like that lol??

What's this SAD?

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#32 Edited by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

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#33 Posted by Shewgenja (21456 posts) -

Unify the hardware and software supply chain. 1 SKU at launch.

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#34 Posted by I_P_Daily (12516 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

Cows came up with the name because they don't know the way proper way to say it, as it would be Xbox One S ADE, but cows don't even know how to do anything properly, that's why Sony gives them so little gameplay as not to confuse them lol.

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#35 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

Cows came up with the name because they don't know the way proper way to say it, as it would be Xbox One S ADE, but cows don't even know how to do anything properly, that's why Sony gives them so little gameplay as not to confuse them lol.

Yeah, keep trying, but SAD and Bone are staying.

So lems know the proper way to say PS4?

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#36 Edited by I_P_Daily (12516 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

Cows came up with the name because they don't know the way proper way to say it, as it would be Xbox One S ADE, but cows don't even know how to do anything properly, that's why Sony gives them so little gameplay as not to confuse them lol.

Yeah, keep trying, but SAD and Bone are staying.

So lems know the proper way to say PS4?

That's alright they can stay, just as you can stay incorrect :)

Yeah PS4 is short for movie station 4 right? with such mottos as "this is for the movie watchers"

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#37 Posted by Ant_17 (12861 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

Yeah, keep trying, but SAD and Bone are staying.

So lems know the proper way to say PS4?

That's alright they can stay, just as you can stay incorrect :)

Yeah PS4 is short for movie station 4 right? with such mottos as "this is for the movie watchers"

lol

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#38 Edited by Shewgenja (21456 posts) -

@Ant_17: the fanbase that touted their s model as a UHD player really seems to have jokes about movies, somehow.

Personally, I was really holding out for the Water Cooler Edition.

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#39 Posted by NoodleFighter (10496 posts) -

@Shewgenja: Didn't lems say that playing Black Panther in UHD Blu Ray was their equivalent of Sony's Spiderman game?

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#40 Posted by Shewgenja (21456 posts) -

@NoodleFighter: I dunno. It's been easy tuning out their bs after Quantum Break.

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#41 Posted by rzxv04 (686 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

I see. That's kinda funny. Wish they thought about the acronyms. I do wonder if memes already have large effects due to the active net population steadily growing.

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#42 Posted by rrjim1 (1748 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

@rzxv04: XboxSAll Digital Edition

Cows came up with the name because they don't know the way proper way to say it, as it would be Xbox One S ADE, but cows don't even know how to do anything properly, that's why Sony gives them so little gameplay as not to confuse them lol.

Yeah, keep trying, but SAD and Bone are staying.

So lems know the proper way to say PS4?

I hear a lot of people around here calling it the Piss4.

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#43 Posted by SecretPolice (35358 posts) -

Doesn't matter what Phony does next gen... Poke'em with a fork, they're done. :P

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#44 Posted by Alucard_Prime (10107 posts) -

I don't know, I mean they never had to in the past, so they should be fine another gen doing the same thing. But personally I like what Xbox is doing, I feel targeted more by the premium model(the Anaconda I guess) because I game a lot and I'm willing to spend more to get the better hardware, I don't have to get the one model designed for the bulk of the gamers. It's something different so time will tell how it will all work out. Either way no big deal for me, not in a hurry at all for next gen.

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#45 Posted by 2mrw (5870 posts) -

Tbh, I would agree to 2 consoles at the begining rather than mid gen upgrade

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#46 Edited by BoxRekt (2012 posts) -

NO!

It's an idiotic strategy that undermines the point of having more powerful hardware to start a new generation.

Having 2 SKUs with 1 being far weaker defeats the purpose of having a new generation because developers will always have to develop for the lower end model to ensure compatibility, thus rendering the more powerful units shitty resolution and framerate buffers.

This is the reason why we have high end PC's 10x more powerful than the PS4 that can only boast running the same games just at a higher resolution and frame rate now.

A generation starts with development of the base market leaders hardware.

You xbox and PC fanboys can keep that counterproductive set up, and when Sony shows 1 powerful SKU, no matter if PC or MS has more powerful "options", the most impressive looking games will still be PS5 exclusive.

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#47 Edited by speedytimsi (978 posts) -

So Xbox gonna go SAD edition next gen?

Just don't follow that one.

In reply to OP no...because a year later better tech comes along and they have to play the upgrade game again.

This time i'll probably wait a year or two b4 purchasing next gen (if it's even worth purchasing) or a limited pro version.

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#48 Posted by pyro1245 (5238 posts) -

From a manufacturing view it's not as efficient to have multiple SKUs.

From a software view it really doesn't matter because it's a simple matter of tweaking settings to run on different hardware.

The worst will be if they release only one SKU and it can't run the games well. I don't want another repeat of the PS4 hardware.

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#49 Posted by shellcase86 (4521 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

Unify the hardware and software supply chain. 1 SKU at launch.

Ay ay! Keep it simple, Sony.

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#50 Posted by Pedro (35601 posts) -

@pyro1245: What? When was the PS4 struggling to run games?