Should MS put Halo/Gears/Forza on Steam?

We all know what a disaster Windows Store is...

98% of PC Copies of Rise of the Tomb Raider Were Bought on Steam

probably why they released Quantum Break on Steam.

Not only can they sell so much more copies on Steam, but the community will be much bigger.

They probably should, but they won't... They probably want to try to make their own version of Steam, built-in to Win 10.

They should for sure! Not to mention, Sony should put Uncharted/Killzone/Gran Turismo on PC as well. Their PSN store is a disaster and they would probably sell most of their copies on Steam.

I was talking about mulptiplats that is already on PC, not exclusive games.

UC, KZ and GT are already on PS Pro as well, so not exclusive.

We know we know, PS4 and "PS Pro" are different systems right?

But I was talking about games already on PC (Halo/Gears/Forza), all they have to do is put it there.

@me2002: That will only happen is Steam gets put on the Scorpio. It's like asking if Horizon: Zero Dawn and Days Gone should be put on Steam.

Then why did Quantum Break get put on steam? Because there is already a PC version.

Microsoft has 3 options;

* Overhaul the Windows store, eliminate the restrictions (overlay blocks, modding blocks, forced fullscreen, forced v-sync...) that are alienating the PC gaming crowd, let them have the options they're used to and they'll buy from the Windows store

* Offer the games on Steam, have those unrestricted copies on Steam, and I suppose also on the Windows Store, so players have options provided by where they buy their game, possibly opening up competition by having deals on their own front When Steam isn't have a sale

* Keep the games locked on Windows Store, keeping them locked out of options the way they currently are, and sabotaging themselves of potential direct revenue, all from believing that digital exclusivity would coerce PC gamers to accepting the undesirable conditions... which they'll soon see doesn't work, and they can witness the decline of their store front, same way GFWL went down in flames.

But hey, poor sales lead to Quantum Break releasing on Steam, so there's some hope.

They're in the middle of pushing their universal platform through Windows store. I doubt it.

Yes WE do!

lol youre trying too hard

I would like it if they did. However, they'll use them to grow the Windows Store.

In my mind, MS releasing games on Steam is prelude to a takeover or an admission of defeat. Steam possessing a carve-out of Windows will always been an obstacle to their ambition for a cross-device Windows platform.

LOL, believe me it's easy LOL

70€ for Resident evil 7 on win store sounds like a great deal when it's 50€ on steam.

True, considering you get to play it on Xbox as well With the Steam version, you can't.

They should... hell, even make forza steam vr compatible.

Why would I want to play it on Xbox tho? If I want to play from tv there's steam link, which is cheaper than xbox too.

@AdobeArtist: option 4: Have a Steam app on Scorpio.

I think it will happen.

If they look big picture, stop being greedy and get some of the other store fronts to adopt UWP Steam will too. As long as it's not the only option. Like you said there's ways to work around it like offering exclusives deals thru Windows store or maybe even making Play Anywhere exclusive to the Windows Store. Would this really matter to people that don't own an Xbox?

MS lost money on that game and was extra desperate to make some of it back.

Or they announce PC games with UWP support that is compatible with Scorpio.

@NathanDrakeSwag: it will when you buy an Xbox Scorpio

Fragile lil cow, you'll jump ship again like you did months ago

Except Scorpio wont run win32 games, but from what I've heard it could run win32->uwp converts that xbox one can't

If something like this was the case. then Microsoft will tightly control the third party store, so they may get 10% of the cut and advertise the store on the Windows Store.

But you are not a console gamer. There are millions that prefer to game on console, and hate PC. And then there are people like me who prefer to play on console, but like to have the PC option. None of my real life friends are on Steam, but they are all on Xbox Live, which is on PC and Xbox.

And like Phil said, not every game will be on PC that is on Xbox. Just like not every exclusive on PS is on PC. Sure, most PS/Xbox exclusives are on PC or another platform, but again, not all.

If they don't want them to continue flopping sales-wise they should. Windows Store is a virus.

Because Quantum Break didn't require the Xbox LIVE API to function properly. It is a single player game. Halo, Forza, and Gears of Wars use the Xbox LIVE online system very heavily.

Microsoft already said they would put games on Steam, "when it makes sense". In other words;

• When the game is a 3rd party game but published Microsoft. Game will release on other PC platforms through another publisher.
• If the game is an indie title and losing "exclusivity rights" doesn't mean much. More sales for indie games, the more money the indie studio makes.
• When a game is a single player game and doesn't require the Xbox LIVE system to function properly in general.

Flagship first party titles like Halo, Forza, and Gears of War won't be released on Steam or Origin. That is like asking Valve to put Dota 2 on Origin or on uPlay.

EA's Battlefield 1, Sim 4 and Blizzard's World of Warcraft MMO are not available on Steam.

Windows 10 Store is truely terrible. Just last week I went to the store, clicked installed, it downloaded the game and I was able to play immediately after the download. Like WTF Microsoft. Fix this shit.

This is sort of why first impressions are very important in virtually everything we do in life. **** up in the start and people will keep bringing it up even when you've improved. Its the reason why ppl still think the window store is broken and that the MCC is still unplayable.

and of course..microsoft's E3 2013

Steam Link is awful.

@ShadowDeathX: Because Quantum Break didn't require the Xbox LIVE API to function properly. It is a single player game. Halo, Forza, and Gears of Wars use the Xbox LIVE online system very heavily.

Microsoft already said they would put games on Steam, "when it makes sense". In other words;

When the game is a 3rd party game but published Microsoft. Game will release on other PC platforms through another publisher.

If the game is an indie title and losing "exclusivity rights" doesn't mean much. More sales for indie games, the more money the indie studio makes.

When a game is a single player game and doesn't require the Xbox LIVE system to function properly in general.

Flagship first party titles like Halo, Forza, and Gears of War won't be released on Steam or Origin. That is like asking Valve to put Dota 2 on Origin or on uPlay"

Winner.

@Juub1990: Steam Link is awful"

Yep. I tried that lagfest. It blows.

Not sure if sarcasm or not...

Anyway, OP: I'd love for Halo to be on Steam, but it ain't gonna happen.

It would sell more for sure.

But Microsoft will keep their games set on their own store.

which is fine, I mean Ubisoft and EA do the same thing.

works fine for the times I use it, sure you are more or less capped on 1080/60 but hey that's still more than you'd get from playing on console

@howmakewood: I use an ethernet cable and the lag is still much more prevalent than a direct hdmi cable. A lot more. It's not even close to the same experience. It's a very unappealing alternative.

sounds a bit odd, what does it show you for stream latency/ping time/bitrate/est bandwidth and pl? and what encoder/decoder? sure it can't beat direct feed as it's still streaming but it shouldn't be that noticeable with good wired connection

That being said I might upgrade to the new Shield TV that features 4k HDR streaming support, I do have 1gbit ethernet at home but not sure if that's even enough for 4k hdr on good bitrate

I think they should. It would sell like gangbusters