Should Max Payne 4 or Max payne reboot need to happened next gen?

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#1 Ghosts4ever
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Hello friends,

So gaming one of few Third person masterpiece is missing today that is Max payne series. Max payne 1 was masterpiece and blew me away as kid, Max payne 2 disappoint me but it has solid gameplay although it was very watered down compare to original, 3 was excellent too and rockstars best game by far.

If Max story is finished at 3, its still been long so why not reboot it for next gen? either let remedy make it if rockstar are not doing it. lets face it, rockstar abondon thier only good game in favor of boring open world crap like GTA and Red dead. instead they can released Max payne 4 with improved formula. or if story is ended, we can reboot it. tons of series got rebooted. restart Max story in different way.

so we are at end of gen, next gen is coming and sadly rockstar will release GTA6 and milked it online till next 10 years.

so my friend, do we think Max payne 4, or Max payne reboot need to happened? Max payne 3 was last good third person action/shooter game (apart from Hitman but it was more social stealth).

lets discuss my friends.

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#2 lundy86_4
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Gimme Maxine Payne!

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#3 Ghosts4ever
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@lundy86_4 said:

Gimme Maxine Payne!

develop by naughty dog. also becoming very cinematic and on rail, almost a movie game.

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#4 MonsieurX
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But Max Payne 3 was trash

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#5 VFighter
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@ghosts4ever: Like Max Payne 3?

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#6 Ghosts4ever
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@vfighter said:

@ghosts4ever: Like Max Payne 3?

Max payne 3 was excellent too.

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#7 MirkoS77
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Max Payne 2 disappointed?? Why?

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@MirkoS77 said:

Max Payne 2 disappointed?? Why?

less darker atmosphere, automatic bullet time plus toned down too as you move fast but enemies move slow only unlike original one, story is worse, the level design is also better in original.

its also shorter and easier than original.

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#9 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Max payne 3 had unskippable cutscenes. So its a movie game.

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#10 SolidGame_basic
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The original Max Payne games were cool. I kinda wished they stayed with Remedy. The Rockstar game was not bad, but their games are too formulaic. TC should open up his library. He's too stuck in the past.

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#11 jg4xchamp  Online
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They should make a new ip with that shooting engine.

Max Payne 2 was a much better video game than max payne 3. If you liked having less weapons, a slower character, ridiculous landing lag after every dive as max, and a really poor retelling of Man on Fire, than sure I can see why you would prefer Max Payne 3. But as someone who likes to have the better playing video game, I rather play Max Payne 2. Also has a better plot and a stronger ending, where as Payne 3 just acts like it can retcon that shit away so Rockstar can tell their shittier story.

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Well I made a thread not too long ago praising remakes. Max Payne is another masterpiece I never got to finish (vaguely remember playing it on PC) had Max Payne 2 on PS2 which was garbage.

A full Max Payne remake is something I would play.

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#13 MirkoS77
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@ghosts4ever: yeah, but it had Capt. Baseball Bat Boy.

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#14 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp: Max payne 3 is more challenging than 2. MP2 was too easy even the tine i was young let alone now.

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#15 TJDMHEM
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max payne 4

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#16 hardwenzen
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It will come on consoles, and then, two years later, it'll be on pc. Would you enjoy waiting 2 years to play a game everyone who cared has already beaten?

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#17 dxmcat
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How bout new IPs? LOL

guess thats too much to ask.

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#18  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@dxmcat: Why would you care about max payne my friend? Its story driven franchise. Not MP.

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@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp: Max payne 3 is more challenging than 2. MP2 was too easy even the tine i was young let alone now.

Difficulty in it of itself is nothing to be proud about. Max Payne 3 is mechanically a shallower game than Max Payne 2 in terms of options n playing slower, gamefeel wise moving him is that much more sluggish. The level design certainly didn't improve with Rockstar, and the game has unskippable cutscenes for a story that sucks.

Max Payne 3 is every bit the movie game you people bitch about other movie games for. Just because it nailed one aspect of combat: the gunplay, and even that is exclusively a presentation thing, doesn't make up for how shallow it is.

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#20 WitIsWisdom
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I'm fine with Max Payne 4, but enough with all the remakes already.

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#21 freedomfreak
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I wouldn't mind. Although perhaps a prequel. And let Rockstar handle it again. I don't trust nu-remedy.

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#22  Edited By Ezekiel43
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@freedomfreak said:

I wouldn't mind. Although perhaps a prequel. And let Rockstar handle it again. I don't trust nu-remedy.

I don't trust Rockstar anymore either, and I like Max Payne 3 more than most. They've been smelling their own farts too long. They think their crappy movement and mechanics are amazing.

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#23 lebanese_boy
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Max Payne 3 was ok but tbh I'm not interested in that series anymore. Should they continue with another title I think they should reboot the franchise altogether.

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#24  Edited By dxmcat
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Can it, clownshoe. You're worse than last years expired coupons.

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#25 R4gn4r0k
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We are getting Age of Empires 4 after all this time, so why can't we get a Max Payne 4?

I like Rockstars games but they shouldn't always make open world games, they should make more linear games. Manhunt was cool. Max Payne 3 was cooler.

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#26 Magnum3000
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Need Max Payne 5

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#27 Ghosts4ever
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@dxmcat: Can it, clownshoe. You're worse than last years expired coupons.

you quoted yourself lol.

Max payne games are masterpieces and certainly better than any of shitty online game you play lol.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp: Max payne 3 is more challenging than 2. MP2 was too easy even the tine i was young let alone now.

Difficulty in it of itself is nothing to be proud about. Max Payne 3 is mechanically a shallower game than Max Payne 2 in terms of options n playing slower, gamefeel wise moving him is that much more sluggish. The level design certainly didn't improve with Rockstar, and the game has unskippable cutscenes for a story that sucks.

Max Payne 3 is every bit the movie game you people bitch about other movie games for. Just because it nailed one aspect of combat: the gunplay, and even that is exclusively a presentation thing, doesn't make up for how shallow it is.

It does. mechanically max payne 3 is perfect and Max in 3 is more badass than in 2. I like Max in 1 best with sam lake facial model. they changed it to some handsome model in second game and i was like they remove the iconicness.

I dont see any hand holding in max payne 3 compare to uncharted and last of us. when you are playing it, you are in combat all the time. slow mo and diving with shooting on heads never been so much fun.

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#29 jg4xchamp  Online
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>mechanically perfect

>drops options n mechanics

Pick one.

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#30 VFighter
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@ghosts4ever: So you found Max handsome in the second game, huh.

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#31 Ghosts4ever
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@vfighter said:

@ghosts4ever: So you found Max handsome in the second game, huh.

no, but they should potray him as badass instead of handsome model. he looks terrible in 2 actually.

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#32 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:

>mechanically perfect

>drops options n mechanics

Pick one.

weapon limit they do for some realism.

Look at this. Max has AK 47 in hand while shooting with a pistol and that make him looks like a badass.

Also raul passos >>>> Mona.

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#33 jg4xchamp  Online
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Ghost likes overly scripted movie game. Absolute state. Loves unskippable cutscenes. What a bald fraud.

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#34 Sushiglutton  Online
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I really like Max Payne, but I think that franchise is in the freezer with other linear games like prince of Persia and dead space.

Last one was ok, but all the cutscenes to hide loading were kind on annoying. Especially when playing the arcade mode (gave up pretty quick). I also found the gameplay real shallow. At least add a little more enviromental interactivity or something.

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#35 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:

Ghost likes overly scripted movie game. Absolute state. Loves unskippable cutscenes. What a bald fraud.

Max payne is anything but movie game. far from it.

yes it does have unskipabble cutscene which i dont like. and i dont put it above original but they are not really bad at all when story is so good.

last few levels in games from police station to airport are just simply incredible.

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@ghosts4ever: Difference between quoting and tagging.

I mention new IPs instead of non-stop sequels / remasters, and you come back with that bullshit? It has nothing to do with what I said. Max Payne 1 was good but the rest were rubbish.

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@ghosts4ever said:

Max payne is anything but movie game. far from it.

yes it does have unskipabble cutscene which i dont like. and i dont put it above original but they are not really bad at all when story is so good.

The story is terrible tho, unskippable cutscenes are never okay. You spend a significant amount of time waiting for the game to let you play.

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I dont see any hand holding in max payne 3 compare to

The game literally will go into slow mo, with max diving himself, with his hand guns out, invalidating the players own choice to have a rifle out because Rockstar only animated these sequences with pistols in mind, and have you shoot off in this super directed scripted hand held way. Guiding you by the finger to play the way Rockstar wants you to play.

Game sucks. Ghost sucks. More at 11.

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@dxmcat said:

@ghosts4ever: Difference between quoting and tagging.

I mention new IPs instead of non-stop sequels / remasters, and you come back with that bullshit? It has nothing to do with what I said. Max Payne 1 was good but the rest were rubbish.

this is series that is left alone almost decade ago. thats why we need it.

this is not assassins creed, far cry, battlefield, COD that relaese every year.

just like why we also need Half life 3.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:

Max payne is anything but movie game. far from it.

yes it does have unskipabble cutscene which i dont like. and i dont put it above original but they are not really bad at all when story is so good.

The story is terrible tho, unskippable cutscenes are never okay. You spend a significant amount of time waiting for the game to let you play.

@ghosts4ever said:

I dont see any hand holding in max payne 3 compare to

The game literally will go into slow mo, with max diving himself, with his hand guns out, invalidating the players own choice to have a rifle out because Rockstar only animated these sequences with pistols in mind, and have you shoot off in this super directed scripted hand held way. Guiding you by the finger to play the way Rockstar wants you to play.

Game sucks. Ghost sucks. More at 11.

The game doesnot feature any regen health, the gameplay mechanics are near perfect, its challenging, cover is optional instead you go slow mo bullet time. doesnot make it movie game.

theres little to no walking segments and listen to this that sequence.

even at cinematic approach, Ghost games still have depth, cant say same about champ games.

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@ghosts4ever said:

The game doesnot feature any regen health, the gameplay mechanics are near perfect, its challenging, cover is optional instead you go slow mo bullet time. doesnot make it movie game.

Regen health is whatever, gameplay mechanics are a complete regression from their predecessor, not really it's only challenging if you're a scrub, also false cover is often mandatory in a lot of levels given that Max can't reliably dodge shit and is slow as shit, and the game has heavy scripting and tons of unskippable cutscenes that ignore the players decision of weapon on top of that.

It's a movie game sport, sorry to break it to you.

@ghosts4ever said:

Ghost games still have depth

Ghost games are actually almost always shallow. Doom: Eternal is lone exception, and lets be real that's because it borrows elements from Champ games.

Another win for fearless leader Champ, and another L for casual4ever.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:

Ghost games still have depth

Ghost games are actually almost always shallow. Doom: Eternal is lone exception, and lets be real that's because it borrows elements from Champ games.

Another win for fearless leader Champ, and another L for casual4ever.

I though you also liked STALKER that is Ghost game. but champ also believe Half life has unskipabble cutscene so?

I played lot of champ games. Played RE games and only great one is RE7. rest of them suck. most of champ games also have bad controlling and originated from consoles.

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I'd happily take a max payne 3 remaster it was one of my favourite games of last generation.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Ghost games are actually almost always shallow. Doom: Eternal is lone exception, and lets be real that's because it borrows elements from Champ games.

Another win for fearless leader Champ, and another L for casual4ever.

I though you also liked STALKER that is Ghost game. but champ also believe Half life has unskipabble cutscene so?

I played lot of champ games. Played RE games and only great one is RE7. rest of them suck. most of champ games also have bad controlling and originated from consoles.

Half Life does have glorified unskippable cutscenes.

And we've already established that you're a scrub at Resident Evil which is why you think they are bad. Because you are bad at video games. I mean it explains why you don't actually like games with depth.

The PC platforms greatest gift is that its the best way to play console games. Outside of some FPS exclusives (mostly multiplayer), and RTS games, PC exclusives have kind of always sucked. Absolute state of Ghost games, forever bad.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Half Life does have glorified unskippable cutscenes.

And we've already established that you're a scrub at Resident Evil which is why you think they are bad. Because you are bad at video games. I mean it explains why you don't actually like games with depth.

The PC platforms greatest gift is that its the best way to play console games. Outside of some FPS exclusives (mostly multiplayer), and RTS games, PC exclusives have kind of always sucked. Absolute state of Ghost games, forever bad.

old RE games. control bad, especially with Keyboard. and RE4 take HD remastered to work with KB/M but beside that it was QTE kick slash action game, cant shoot while walk. RE5 and 6 also suck. 7 turn out great thanks to being horror game and first person game. and RE8 taking same approach.

even though RE2 Remake is best third person RE game. still its overrated.

DMC5 also suck. too easy and just repetetive hack n slash that i uninstalled it after hour. absolute state of champ games.

PC exclusives like System shock 2, Deus Ex, STALKER destroy any of console game.

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#45 jg4xchamp  Online
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old RE games. control bad, especially with Keyboard.

Nope, you are just bad at adapting. Not surprising, it's why you don't play multiplayer. Multiplayer isn't following a script, the player has to adapt to things on the fly, and we know you can't.

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even though RE2 Remake is best third person RE game. still its overrated.

Didn't you need like a 100 saves for that btw? Remind me again how long that game took you and how often you died n needed to save?

@ghosts4ever said:

DMC5

Sorry, the depth conversation n DMC5 go hand in hand. The franchise could be knocked for many things, but a lack of depth isn't one of them.

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Btw that's what someone can do in that game on a keyboard, and we all know you don't know how to even Jump Cancel in the game where they made that shit the easiest to do.

Damn another L for casual4ever.

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@jg4xchamp: and console games only get better when they adopted Dumbed down PC games. otherwise i played bunch of PS2 games and almost all of them are just clunky even for its time let alone now.

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Given they probably want a game they can create a large online environment for and milk players for microtransactions, unless they plan on drastically changing the series to open world, probably eliminating the series signature bullet time, sure, it could happen, but doubtful they'll do that. I can see a new GTA being far more likely.

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New IP and Max himself had a conclusion ending so no new Max Payne or rebooting the series.

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@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp: and console games only get better

They always been better. Scrub4ever just bad at good video games : (

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp: and console games only get better

They always been better. Scrub4ever just bad at good video games : (

none of old console games have age well. compare goldeneye to Half life and see the difference.

compare any of old console action game to Max payne 1, see the difference

compare MGS1 to Deus Ex 1, see the difference

console games back then were too clunky.