Should God of War 3 be a AE or AAE game?

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#1 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Sure it scored high on gamespot but when a developer admits the franchise he created is C-List and not better than DMC which 4 scored AA... That imo converts it to an AE.

He admits that his games Twisted Metal and God of War are average series that are overhyped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0dxpBp85A&feature=related

I can not link but at 4:20

and can someone edit by into buy it will not let me fix that...

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GoW is overrated, boring and repetitive. i tried liking it more than it deserved, and it failed to appeal to me every single time. i'll go back to other, more enjoyable hack'n'slashes. like DMC for example.
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#3 worlock77
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[citation needed]

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#4 Slashless
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imo yes it should.

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#5 Warriorboy1990
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]GoW is overrated, boring and repetitive. i tried liking it more than it deserved, and it failed to appeal to me every single time. i'll go back to other, more enjoyable hack'n'slashes. like DMC for example.

DMC is overrated, it's boring and repetitive.
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#6 DealRogers
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What is the point of all of this if the game is AAA and no matter what anyone says it will remain AAA forever.

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#7 Tikeio
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Huh? There's really nothing to discuss when a developer downplays his own creation.

But honestly, the only thing GOW does right is boss battles and puzzles. The input system is repetitive though, and the combo system is s**t.

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#8 ZIVX
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I don't know that's like people's opinions man~

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#9 Grawse
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I can't stand the GOW franchise. Barely beat the 1st one, started the second and after that first boss? Just went on to GOW3 and it took me 3 months to beat a 7 hour game. I'd give it at least give it AA based on production value.

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#10 DarkLink77
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No, it's a solid 9.0, I think. Good boss fights overall, fun enemies, fun to play.

It's brought down by an asinine ending and a combat system that's a little too simple for its own good, but it's a great game.

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#11 ImSwordMan
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no

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#12 WTA2k5
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The logic here is totally sound.

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#13 Diviniuz
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The series was better without Jaffe. GOW 2 is an amazing game.

EDIT: I just read what Jaffe said. I question the TC ability to read.

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#14 Solid_Link22
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Nope its it AAAE for me.

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#15 UnrealLegend
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No, it's a solid 9.0, I think. Good boss fights overall, fun enemies, fun to play.

It's brought down by an asinine ending and a combat system that's a little too simple for its own good, but it's a great game.

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Wow, did DarkLink just praise something?! :o :P

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#16 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

No, it's a solid 9.0, I think. Good boss fights overall, fun enemies, fun to play.

It's brought down by an asinine ending and a combat system that's a little too simple for its own good, but it's a great game.

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Wow, did DarkLink just praise something?! :o :P

And a PS3 exclusive, no less. :o
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#17 Banjo_Kongfooie
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The series was better without Jaffe. GOW 2 is an amazing game.

Diviniuz

I liked God of War 2's gameplay more but the story was a mess. Graphics were astounding for a ps2 game though.


But God of War is the highest rated of the series on gamespot. He made the series and admits the highest rated game in it is overrated.

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#18 mysticstryk
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David Jaffe is a loudmouth and annoying person. His opinions mean nothing to me.

(never did care for GoW though)

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#19 R3FURBISHED
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I adored God of War III, as well as the first (for the most part) and the second when I played them - they are not so good after you play number 3.

And whether or not Jaffe likes them doesn't change that they are still great games.

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#20 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

The series was better without Jaffe. GOW 2 is an amazing game.

Banjo_Kongfooie

I liked God of War 2's gameplay more but the story was a mess. Graphics were astounding for a ps2 game though.


But God of War is the highest rated of the series on gamespot. He made the series and admits the highest rated game in it is overrated.

god dude, I am sorry but you're an idiot.

You are trying way too hard to rip on the GoW series.

He said DMC > GOW in 2006... Before GOW 2 or 3 were out...And did you even watch the interview?

And your logic on AE thing is just a big facepalm. Like a super facepalm. This is logic is borderline PNF logic... thats how bad it is.

Edit: To further add to the fail of the TC logic

When did DMC 4 come out? 2008? Good God that is 2 years after he said this

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GOW2 > DMC1 > GOW1 > GOW3 > DMC3 > any other hack n slash like Ninja Gaidens, other DMCs, other GOWs, Bayonetta ETC..

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#22 Pug-Nasty
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Jaffe is humble, and GOW is fantastic.

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#23 spookykid143
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GOW2 > DMC1 > GOW1 > GOW3 > DMC3 > any other hack n slash like Ninja Gaidens, other DMCs, other GOWs, Bayonetta ETC..

Mozelleple112

lol I like GOW but putting it ahead of games like DMC, Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta is laughable

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#24 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Jaffe is horrible, and GOW is mediocre.

Pug-Nasty

Fixed.

Any dev who insults their own game they dirrected is a poor dirrector.

God of War is not a C- list game because of him. Who do you trust more the dirrector of the game or review sites?

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#25 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Jaffe is horrible, and GOW is mediocre.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Fixed.

Any dev who insults their own game they dirrected is a poor dirrector.

God of War is not a C- list game because of him. Who do you trust more the dirrector of the game or review sites?

What the hell did you get out the interview to say any of that? Seriously child, rewatch the interview.

He clearly being modest. The guy is a massive fan of DMC, its what inspired him to make the series.

AND, All he said he doesn't think GoW1 fighting system isn't as good as DMC.... god dude, your trying too hard, its pathetic.

The logic you used in this thread is to bash the series is = to PNF logic. Its idiotic. This is literally the worst thing I can say about someone's logic ever.

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#26 Banjo_Kongfooie
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^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.
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#27 Diviniuz
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^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.Banjo_Kongfooie
Holy crap, rewatch the interview and try not to sound like a complete moron. He did not insult his own work...

Congratulations, I can no longer take anything you post on this forums serious after this thread.

You are trying too hard and failling even harder.

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#28 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.

name me an exclusive 360 hack and slash...... ninety nine nights? gtfo of here fanboy
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#29 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.Chris_Williams
name me an exclusive 360 hack and slash...... ninety nine nights? gtfo of here fanboy

Ninja Blade... This is not about exclusives though.

The 360 has the superior multiplat of these games.

DMC was said by the creator of DMC to be better than God of War. 360 DMC collection most likely > PS3 version.

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#30 stereointegrity
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GOW3 was the best in the series......but then again ur name is banjo so idk whether to take this thread as anything credible
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#31 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.Banjo_Kongfooie

name me an exclusive 360 hack and slash...... ninety nine nights? gtfo of here fanboy

Ninja Blade... This is not about exclusives though.

The 360 has the superior multiplat of these games.

DMC was said by the creator of DMC to be better than God of War. 360 DMC collection most likely > PS3 version.

He was clearly being modest considering the sentence before that he said "I don't think I am the sh**" and he didn't say DMC>GOW.... Hes talking about combat.

And dude just stop it, you are being ridiculously with this thread. Your logic is freaking terrible.

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#32 NaveedLife
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GoW 3 deserves a 9.0. Awesome game with some issues.

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#33 Banjo_Kongfooie
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You guys act as if 7 is bad. Skyward sword got a 7.5... Anyways I like God of War's presentation (loved the extras actually more than the 2nd games). The second god of war lacked in plot imo but the game had amazing graphics (can't believe it was on a ps2) and pretty great gameplay. I am just saying the creator said DMC3 is better. The 360 will most likely have the better version of the pinnacle of action games.
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#34 Diviniuz
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You guys act as if 7 is bad.Banjo_Kongfooie
it never scored 7...And your logic used to say its 7 is beyond stupid.

I wish more people were on to watch the interview and talk about how stupid your logic really is.

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#35 Banjo_Kongfooie
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GoW 3 deserves a 9.0. Awesome game with some issues.

NaveedLife

God of War got a AAAE score.

DMC3 got an AAE score.

David Jaffe says DMC3 is better. God of War 3 scores lower than the first ones. Thus God of War gets a 7.5 imo.

Actually it might be possible for God of War to score AAE since DMC3 got 8.6 and is better but David Jaffe never said how much better. I will change title.

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#36 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

GoW 3 deserves a 9.0. Awesome game with some issues.

Banjo_Kongfooie

God of War got a AAAE score.

DMC3 got an AAE score.

David Jaffe says DMC3 is better. God of War 3 scores lower than the first ones. Thus God of War gets a 7.5 imo.

Actually it might be possible for God of War to score AAE since DMC3 got 8.6 and is better but David Jaffe never said how much better. I will change title.

I can't tell whether you are delusional or trolling. I really can't.

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#37 silversix_
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I like it. Not a fan of beat'em up but this one was great. Deserves a 9 in mah book.
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#38 Diviniuz
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I am done but please people watch the interview before posting because the TC is the definition of fail.

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#39 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

GoW 3 deserves a 9.0. Awesome game with some issues.

Banjo_Kongfooie

God of War got a AAAE score.

DMC3 got an AAE score.

David Jaffe says DMC3 is better. God of War 3 scores lower than the first ones. Thus God of War gets a 7.5 imo.

Actually it might be possible for God of War to score AAE since DMC3 got 8.6 and is better but David Jaffe never said how much better. I will change title.

I scored them all a 9.0. I see pros and cons to each GoW. DMC3 I need to play. I played DMC2 first and loved it (this was a long time ago), but I hear its the worst one. Then I bought them all not long ago and played 1. 1 just gets old to me after a bit. And I canno tbeat this boss :P. I do wanna play 3 though, cause it looks awesome. I just like that GoW feels more like a story/adventure than a hack n slash mission game like DMC. I dont like getting a ranking and such. I am not into that. I am into a good story and epic adventure.

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#40 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

GoW 3 deserves a 9.0. Awesome game with some issues.

NaveedLife

God of War got a AAAE score.

DMC3 got an AAE score.

David Jaffe says DMC3 is better. God of War 3 scores lower than the first ones. Thus God of War gets a 7.5 imo.

Actually it might be possible for God of War to score AAE since DMC3 got 8.6 and is better but David Jaffe never said how much better. I will change title.

I scored them all a 9.0. I see pros and cons to each GoW. DMC3 I need to play. I played DMC2 first and loved it (this was a long time ago), but I hear its the worst one. Then I bought them all not long ago and played 1. 1 just gets old to me after a bit. And I canno tbeat this boss :P. I do wanna play 3 though, cause it looks awesome. I just like that GoW feels more like a story/adventure than a hack n slash mission game like DMC. I dont like getting a ranking and such. I am not into that. I am into a good story and epic adventure.

He never said DMC3 was a better game than GoW1
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#41 Zaibach
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Game got AAAE get over it
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]You guys act as if 7 is bad.Diviniuz

it never scored 7...And your logic used to say its 7 is beyond stupid.

I wish more people were on to watch the interview and talk about how stupid your logic really is.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.

Firstly, he said that he felt that DMC's combat system was better than God of War, which it may be, DOES NOT MAKE DMC a better game than God of War. Secondly, He was not the director of God of War 3. Thirdly, He didn't insult his work. All he said was that "he doesn't feel like he's the "s**t"" and that DMC's combat system was better. No where does he say, that God of War's combat system is bad. Here's an example: If an engineer at Ferrari says "I feel that the Enzo's engine is as good as the 458's" does NOT make the enzo INFERIOR to the 458 and additionally does not mean he is insulting the Enzo. Lastly, I think you're the one who's most upset at not getting to play one of the best action adventure series on your xbox while other people get to enjoy it on PS3. In conclusion, your argument is utter crap and completely illogical. :)
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#43 KiZZo1
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Maybe he thinks DMC3 should be a 10? That also works with your logic, no?

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#44 NeonNinja
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You mean the same guy that hypes up every God of War game before it releases? Suuuuuuuuuuure.

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#45 GIXX3R
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This thread is fail. The OP has misconstrued Jaffe's comment big time. On a sidenote, Jaffe only directed GoW1. He was not part of any other GoW game. GoW3 was directed by Stig Asmussen.

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#46 khoofia_pika
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It should be AAE. After 2, it was disappointing, and it did not even have the brilliant level design that 2 had. Still a good game, though.
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#47 contracts420
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Jaffe has already gone on record saying that DMC has the better combat system. The thing Jaffe fell in love with for God Of War was the mix of things. He didn't just want a fun combat system but he also wanted puzzles, a fun story, variety, platforming. The series isn't 100% hacknslash.

You think Streets Of Rage is considered a classic because it had the deepest and most complex combat system? no, it was just fun. Which is exactly what God Of War is... it's just fun, it has variety.

But anyways, no arguing with a fanboy. They have their feet cemented in place, they refuse to believe anything else. It's like trying to have a conversation about evolution with a creationist.

God Of War 3 was a fantastic game in my opinion. The ending was a bit strange and felt slightly rushed but overall a fun game, varied, great visuals, awesome boss battles and so on. AAAE in my view.

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#48 khoofia_pika
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The series isn't 100% hacknslash.contracts420
That would have been true four years ago. After God of War II, God of War removed the "Adventure" from "Action/Adventure." It's just a hack-n-slash series now. Chains of Olympus had no variety, God of War III had some, and Ghost of Sparta was a step in the right direction.
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#49 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]^ So insulting your own work is modest? Miyomoto and every other developer but David Jaffe are arrogant SOBs right? Your just upset that the 360's DMC collection (Probably superior on the 360) > God of War Collection DMC4 > God of War 3 Ninja Gaiden Black > Sigma Ninja Gaiden II > Sigma 2 Bayonetta > Ps3 version by far So it is pretty clear that the 360 has the edge in action adventure games via quality.Banjo_Kongfooie

name me an exclusive 360 hack and slash...... ninety nine nights? gtfo of here fanboy

Ninja Blade... This is not about exclusives though.

Ninja Blade is also on PC.

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#50 shalashaska88
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I loved it, though not the story though.