Should Black Mesa be counted in the GOTY race?

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#1 biggest_loser
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A lot of work went into it, its not perfect so it probably won't contend for the top prize, but maybe it should get some award.

Could it count towards best free download or something?

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#2 Link3301
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Its not even completed yet.

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#3 The_Capitalist
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It may be the biggest and most well-known mod to have come out in recent years, but I wouldn't count it in the GOTY running just yet.

And is the Steam version up yet? I thought it was Greenlighted a while ago.

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#4 funsohng
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Now we are nominating incomplete games?
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#5 Master_ShakeXXX
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It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

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#6 el3m2tigre
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It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

Master_ShakeXXX

It's funny, cause i played it for the first time like 2 years ago, and it was sure as hell better than a lot of games at that time.

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#7 ultimate-k
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It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

Master_ShakeXXX

Nothing to do with nostalgia, just a fact that level design has gone much crappier in todays modern FPS. Black mesa is much better than most fps these days.

OT yes it should, its easyly GOTY material, dont see why not.

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#8 GamerwillzPS
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I have yet to try it. I have the files sitting in my hard drive waiting to be played.

But playing the original Half-Life with graphics of this generation's standards would be pretty amazing!

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#9 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

el3m2tigre

It's funny, cause i played it for the first time like 2 years ago, and it was sure as hell better than a lot of games at that time.

Sure it was

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#10 Master_ShakeXXX
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

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#11 campzor
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if it has bunny hopping just like the original...then sure.
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#12 funsohng
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Master_ShakeXXX
okay.
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#13 Heil68
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It's fantastic what they've done with it, but no, it shouldn't be be mentioned for GOTY..
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#14 biggest_loser
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Its not even completed yet.

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Yes it is. You wouldn't call it Black Mesa if you were going to include the aliens worlds.
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#15 Zophar87
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Now we are nominating incomplete games?funsohng

That's nothing new.

"We'll just fix it with a patch sometime soon"

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#16 Peredith
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It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

Master_ShakeXXX

it's a complete remake, not just "updated graphics".

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#17 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

Peredith

it's a complete remake, not just "updated graphics".

I think he's angry because I said a whole lot of popular games in his thread were overrated - I don't withdraw what I said lol.
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#18 SecretPolice  Online
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Hmm, either that or HL3 I guess. :twisted:

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#19 flashn00b
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Not really, due to some AI quirks, unfavourable weapon rebalancing, and a lack of a Xen Borderworld

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#20 wis3boi
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Its not even completed yet.

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what planet are you on

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#21 Timstuff
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It's a remake so no.
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#22 AmazonTreeBoa
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Now we are nominating incomplete games?funsohng
No, now he wants to nominate and incomplete mod.
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#23 R4gn4r0k  Online
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Master_ShakeXXX

lol, what ? :lol:

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#24 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]Now we are nominating incomplete games?AmazonTreeBoa
No, now he wants to nominate and incomplete mod.

it's complete....it was released a long time ago

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#25 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="funsohng"]Now we are nominating incomplete games?wis3boi

No, now he wants to nominate and incomplete mod.

it's complete....it was released a long time ago

haha :lol: Makes me wanna play JC2 again.
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#26 PannicAtack
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Master_ShakeXXX

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#27 ultimate-k
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Master_ShakeXXX

Sounds like your just mad that people are saying a free mod is GOTY, and you cant play it.

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#28 skrat_01
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Why not. It's ****ing fantastic. Reminds me why I loved Half Life in the late 90s, and it's excellent in its own right. I'm still genuinely surprised how good it is, and how it showcases how well Half Life holds up. It's baffling.
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#29 skrat_01
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It's amazing just how much nostalgia can cloud one's judgement. An old ass game with slightly updated graphics does not a 2012 GOTY make.

Master_ShakeXXX
You should play it.
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#30 DontGetBigIdeas
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Now we are nominating incomplete games?funsohng
It's OK, publishers have been selling incomplete games all gen long.
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#31 with_teeth26
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It deserves it more than anything else released this year, I tried playing HL1 a few years ago and got maybe a third of the way through, playing through it again with the updated visuals and gunplay was a great experience. The level design is just amazing.

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#32 LegatoSkyheart
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No, it shouldn't.

If I remember correctly no remakes have ever made it to GOTY.

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#33 WiiCubeM1
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No, it's just Half-Life, although it should definitely get some kind of recognition.

Maybe MOTY?

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#34 Maneil99
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Half Life is overated, its gameplay mechanics are stale compared to todays standard, deal with it

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#35 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Maybe best Mod?
Best Remake?

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#36 Gxgear
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It this a joke

Ha ha

Fat chance

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#37 PannicAtack
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Half Life is overated, its gameplay mechanics are stale compared to todays standard, deal with it

Maneil99
Today's standards? Of what, railroading and going straight from point A to point B with absolutely no room for choice or experimentation or exploration?
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#39 Ly_the_Fairy
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It was one of the greatest things I've played in recent memory.

Half Life sits atop my favorite games of all time list, so I was pretty excited when Black Mesa was released, but when I played it it seemed that half the time I didn't even know I was playing Half Life. The artists of that mod did such an amazingly good job! It was such a pleasure to explore such a brand new world, but at every turn there was always that sense of familiarity with the place, and it just added to the magic of it all.

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#40 kozzy1234
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No, it goes in the MOD category (if there was one).

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#41 yellonet
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Black Mesa was kind of disappointing.. it was not nearly as good as HL1. They had changed it too much and it wasn't really polished enough.

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#42 AgentA-Mi6
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Hmm, either that or HL3 I guess. :twisted:

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#43 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Just a personal preference of mine, but I do not consider remakes or updated versions of games as GOTY contestants.

I do agree that Black Mesa were different enough that I would nor consider it a straight remake, but it were still too similar that I would call it a Reimagening.

That mod bested ALOT of games this year, sure, but I would not count it.

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#44 R4gn4r0k  Online
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Definitely one of the best FPS I've played all year. This is an awesome remake, puts some other remakes to shame and costs nothing.

Who cares if its not complete ? Did that affect your enjoyment in the parts that were complete ? no.

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#45 Goyoshi12
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Now we are nominating incomplete games?funsohng

Well...Skyrim did win many GOTY awards.

Heh, heh.

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#46 princeofshapeir
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Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Master_ShakeXXX
Good to know reporting your sig got it removed. :) Pay no attention to this fool. He claimed Diablo 3 was the best game ever made and hyped Borderlands 2 to ludicrous heights. He's a hypocrite who is only good for putting up borderline NSFW sigs.
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#48 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

princeofshapeir

Good to know reporting your sig got it removed. :) Pay no attention to this fool. He claimed Diablo 3 was the best game ever made and hyped Borderlands 2 to ludicrous heights. He's a hypocrite who is only good for putting up borderline NSFW sigs.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

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#49 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Actually ya know what? 2012 was a lousy year anyways so f*ck it. Go a head and hand the award over to some mod for a game that came out two decades ago. Who gives a crap.

Congrats Black Mesa, you are the best game of 2012. The shiniest piece of garbage that sits atop the trash heap. The ruler of the turds.

Goyoshi12

Good to know reporting your sig got it removed. :) Pay no attention to this fool. He claimed Diablo 3 was the best game ever made and hyped Borderlands 2 to ludicrous heights. He's a hypocrite who is only good for putting up borderline NSFW sigs.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

It's bad that it's his only redeeming quality. The act of putting up borderline NSFW sigs is not bad on its own.
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#50 DarkGamer007
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I think Black Mesa is deserving of some type of reward, and while I think there should be a"Best Mod" award for Game of the Year award, I feel like it deserves something more. So much love and effort was put into the game, and nobody thought it was going to release, much less be as amazing as it was.