Shenmue 3 needs "$10 million" to be "truly open world"

http://gearnuke.com/yu-suzuki-shenmue-3-ks-10-million-will-truly-open-world-talks-forklift/

According to Yu Suzuki, if Shenmue 3 Kickstarter reaches 5 million goal, it will allow him to add one of the things that he really wants to do for Shenmue 3. At $10 million, it will be truly an open world game.

I will say this: if we reach the $5 mil mark, one of the things I really want to do with Shenmue 3 will become a reality.

At $10 million, it will truly have the features of an open world.

What do you think, SW? Do you think it can happen? The funding has slowed down significantly since it hit the $2 million mark. Still, 27 more days to go. I think it's certainly possible. Have you donated? I may do so..

here is the kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3

The lack of PS4 physical copies is my one hang up on giving to this.

Can't wait for it to come out and be mediocre.

Hoping Sony see's that fans really want this to happen and put's money into it.

That's the very reason I'm avoiding it. Also 10 million to be open world, they hit 10 million then they say to be really PROPERLY open world with next gen graphics we need 20 million honestly Kickstarter games don't even attempt to hide the greed from the devs.

[My post was dumb and Jag85 corrected me]

Would Shenmue games even benefit from open world feature? Need to play them now but aren't they very story driven? Which tends not to go well with open world

[if I'm showing ignorance of the series it's because I still need to play it]

looking at what he did with Shenmue in 1999 having the whole citry to explore with inside building detailed and everything, when he says "open world" he is probably crazy enough to actually attempt it. Not saying he'd actually succeed but...

"pay for a game to be made, then pay for it again when it comes out"

nope

@darkspineslayer: The lack of a physical copy is a big excuse so many people are using. It's time to get over that. Nothing says the game will not get a physical release, but the KS is not for that at this time. A measly $29 gets you the full game digitally when it's done.

@WeepsForFools: You do know you get rewards right? Almost every single tier comes with the game digitally. Name in credits? Yes please!

Kickstarting is basically paying for a copy of the game in advance (like pre-ordering before the game is made, or while it's in early stages). Typically you "donate" in a tier that has rewards that include the game.

Um.. Who actually said that? Cause it's false, you get the game when you pledge.

Shenmue in open world?

It's called sleeping dogs.

You realize Shenmue 1 cost 70 million to make right? There is no greed here. That is a realistic sum of money for reasonably well sized game.

Any skeptical gamer needs to watch this YT video and get their head out their behinds concerning the Shenmue 3 funding. Stop reading false clickbait articles. https://youtu.be/Idw_IQx2L0g

I hope it makes it to that point, that is what Yu was trying to do back with the first and second game but it just wasn't technologically feasible at the time, now it is and I really hope it makes it there.

Get over yourself. Some of us want physical copies and as it stands that is not an option so they can respectfully stick their cheap download up their ass.

I hope it makes it to that point, that is what Yu was trying to do back with the first and second game but it just wasn't technologically feasible at the time, now it is and I really hope it makes it there.

Sony will pick up the tab, I'm sure they're secretly funding most the Kickstarter as is.

My gripe is with the way they go about getting the money they need. Give us 10k you get the game and an autograph from some dude and a nice little book that cost us 50 dollars to make.

It used to be that publishers who believed in a game would fund it and the devs would make it and if the game was good all parties were rewarded. Now we have devs begging for huge sums of money on Kickstarter with various 'rewards' trying to convince people to throw money at them.

It's cheap and exploitative but now is 'a thing' so people have just come to accept it.

We don't owe them a living and they need to stop begging.

An incredibly seedy kickstarter.

@blueinheaven: Nothing to get over. The KS is not covering the physical release of the game at this time. I want a physical copy too, so do many others if you read actual comments on the KS or Shenmue fan pages, but that's not stopping pledges. I'm not going to pull my pledge solely because there may not be a physical release. Who knows there might be, we don't know right now. I as many others do, feel this is a piss poor excuse not to pledge. To each his own I guess.

I'm thinking the same thing. This seems to be the generation of Open world transitions, even Horizon zero dawn which I thought for sure wasn't is apparently entirely open world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idw_IQx2L0g

because it saves money? kickstarting projects dont ahve that luxury?>

If Yu Suzuki manages to get the $10 million needed to fully fund Shenmue 3, and then the game sells say... 300,000-400,000 copies @ $60/ea across PS4 and PC, would he be able to fund Shenmue 4 without crowd funding?

His vision would take 4-5 games (his words) so we know we aren't getting an ending with the third installment. Then I have to wonder if Shenmue 4 would even be on PS4 at that point?

For all those who keep thinking Sony is funding a ton of money...

Yu Suzuki: I expect individual backers to provide the majority of funds for Shenmue

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1067382

Who cares about saving them money? Other Kickstarter campaigns offered physical copies right from the start. Instead we get give us 10 million to make an open world and PS4 owners please be happy we have physical copies for PC. Fucking PC. Shenmue? Okay.

LOL. Meanwhile Halo 5's DLC will cost more than that. But my all means..... Save Shitmue

Wait? wut? hah ok that is abit backwards. maybe because it would be dvd not blu ray on PC ... oh well :S

It's not begging, you're really missing the point of Kickstarter. It's a different form of financing (or investment). If a developer doesn't have enough money to make a game, they either have to find an investor (a company like Sony) to fund in, or they have to find some other form of financing. If companies aren't willing to finance (or fully finance) a game because it's seen as too risky, you can try selling it directly to consumers. It's basically saying, look we have this great idea for a game, but we need funding, so if you'll buy copies now (possibly with other rewards) we'll be able to make the game. So if a "traditional" investor isn't willing to finance the game, the developer has to go directly to the customers. That's all that Kickstarter is doing.

Calling it begging is beyond stupid.

This is going to be the last game, there is absolutely no way he would attempt to extend this further, it has to end with 3 or else we'll go through all of this again waiting for Shenmue 4, it end with this game.

Shenmue was always open world from the beginning, If anything, Shenmue was one of the games that laid the foundations for modern open-world design, years before GTA3 came along. But despite many open-world games having come out since then, Shenmue's approach to open-world design is still quite unique to this day (and helps enhance the storytelling, if anything). You should give it a try.

@nyadc: I was hoping to get my ending with this game but the impression I got from the Reddit interview yesterday was that Suzuki is going to try and complete the story the way he had intended all those years ago; 11 chapters spamming 4-5 games.

not every game should be open world. id rather have a focused game than a large one.

Ah thanks for correcting me. And I actually just bought the game so I'm going to start it soon.

@Jag85: Before GTA there was Shenmue. It's a pioneer and innovator of open world games.

There's no way, he could cram those chapters into this game, and he needs to, as a duty to his fans he's obligated. If he does this to us again and ends with a cliffhanger on a game that is yet again unlikely to get a 4th entry, well then **** him... Seriously, he needs to put it all into this and let that be the end of it.

@nyadc: I have a feeling us fans will STILL want more Shenmue, which is why 1&2 HD need to happen.

I'm with you as a collector I hope they do a physical release. I own Shenmue 1 & 2 hardcopies which I preserved over the ages.

For Shenmue 3, it would be rather unfortunate if I couldn't do the same thing in getting a physical copy for the ages.

If they said okay everyone give us let's say 45 dollars each to get this thing started and people backed them up I would say yes that's the spirit of Kickstarter let's get this game on the road.

When I see things like give us thousands of dollars and you get to have dinner with some clown from the dev team I say no, that's pretty close to extortion and yes it absolutely IS begging. They're not saying pay for our product they're saying hmmm how many ways can we devise to skin you for every cent you've got.

@SolidGame_basic: i just hope people get the game they want, i just can't back kickstarter projects

If you donate $29 and up you will get the game (PS4 or PC) as a gift when it comes out, so you are not paying for double!

@blueinheaven: No one is forcing them to pay $10,000. You apparently don't know who Yu Suzuki is. He's not just some clown from the dev team, he's the mastermind behind Shenmue and many other games. He's been in the gaming scene for a very long time and is very respected. I can tell you don't know much about what's going on. You don't realize how much of a following Shenmue truly has and unless you were involved on Shenmue 500K FB page for example, you wouldn't know. People have gotten tattoo's of Shenmue, like full sleeves. There are rewards for different amounts to pledge, that how KS works. I pledged $100 because I liked what came with that package.

I don't care who Yu Suzuki is. I don't care how many people have tattoos of Shenmue and won't repeat my opinion on here of their 'achievement' or I will get banned.

**** your 'rewards' nobody should be paying more than 60 dollars up front for a game that may well turn out to suck donkey balls on release. It really is that simple, no amount of body paint will change that.

so you're saying halo 5 needed a ton more money to make it somewhat decent?

@blueinheaven: That's your opinion. If you feel no one should ever need to donate more than $60 to a cause, that's your opinion. No one is forcing anyone to choose higher tiers. It's a choice. I'd love to see a series you love be resurrected 14 years later and see if you stick to your $60 max pledge theory. Don't donate. It's that simple.

i donated $160 and I might it up it to $300

perhaps they shouldn't have announced that Sony was going to fund them

The fact that they set the goal so low was an incredibly bad move.

No way it's going to reach $10 million at this point. They should have considered putting the goal at 5-6 million.