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#201  Edited By DrLostRib
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:
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why do you care so much about that? You keep saying you have a 1080 so why even bother with what a 1070 can do

I enjoy being right

so you don't have a lot of enjoyment in your life then

Tons of enjoyment

So your're into masochism

Well to each their own

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#202  Edited By BassMan
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@BassMan: Nothing wrong with a nice steady 30fps. Destiny (hate it or love it) proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can have great and fast gameplay at 30fps as long as it's a solid 30fps. Now is 60fps better, of course, but this act that 30fps is unayable or whatever is boring me to death.

There is plenty wrong with a steady 30fps. Destiny was painful for me when I played it on my PS4. Destiny 2 on PC plays way better. Even though the sequel was a rehash of the first game, it felt like a whole new game on PC just because of the superior performance and precision controls.

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#203 m3Boarder32
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@BassMan: Nothing wrong with a nice steady 30fps. Destiny (hate it or love it) proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can have great and fast gameplay at 30fps as long as it's a solid 30fps. Now is 60fps better, of course, but this act that 30fps is unayable or whatever is boring me to death.

Exactlty. Tons of 30 FPS games are amogat the best games ever released. If they were unplayable they’d be docked accordingly in reviews.

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#204 Diddies
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Whatever it is, it'll look and run a helluva lot better on X than half-arsed Pro... and that drives some of the cows on here nuts. Lol.

Both are half-arsed. lol

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#205 kuu2
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Funny to see Cows making fun of Lems for having 4K/30fps games while having the inferior version of said game. LOL......................

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

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#207 Diddies
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@ronvalencia: And my human intellect rapes your dumbass robotic brain. You can’t even come up with an original though of you own ?.

What's the matter? Can't handle the same dish being thrown at you?

Remember the Xbox One X was going to be equivalent to a 1080.

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#208 hrt_rulz01
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Funny to see Cows making fun of Lems for having 4K/30fps games while having the inferior version of said game. LOL......................

Lol, just pure salt. It's hilarious.

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#209 robert_sparkes
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I'm sceptical I don't like hearing these promises heard it all before.

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#210 m3Boarder32
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@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

Jesus Christ lmao

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#211 m3Boarder32
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@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

GTX 1080 at X1X Settings has minimum framerates around 39 FPS

a 1060 on all low settings gets minimum frame rates around 29 FPS

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#212 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@m3Boarder32 said:

Which is obviously not gonna happen with this game

Why?

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@davillain- said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

Which is obviously not gonna happen with this game

Why?

1440p and 144 FPS? Maybe when you look up at the sky...

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#214 Diddies
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@Steppy_76 said:

My God, you all just sound so stupid. The cows are essentially jumping up and down because the PS4 isn't losing quite as badly(and no not talking about sales before you all grasp that straw) as lems thought they were going to, yet the PS4 is STILL getting bested graphically and performancewise, then bring up exclusives(not relevant to this discussion about this singular game).

The XB1X will have the best version of the game.

ALL versions will be in the same ballpark.

You mean PC will have the best version.

Not if its without HDR and Atmos again.

No offense to you spending your money on Atmos, but I would greatly like more fps, higher resolution, and better graphical detail in a game than Atmos and HDR. If the game doesn't look at good, runs on low fps (which is horrible once you get use to more), who cares what it sounds like.

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#215  Edited By Pcmasterrace69
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@AdobeArtist: lol xD

you got the 1070 best (not real) silicon lottery ever dude

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@Diddies said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@Steppy_76 said:

My God, you all just sound so stupid. The cows are essentially jumping up and down because the PS4 isn't losing quite as badly(and no not talking about sales before you all grasp that straw) as lems thought they were going to, yet the PS4 is STILL getting bested graphically and performancewise, then bring up exclusives(not relevant to this discussion about this singular game).

The XB1X will have the best version of the game.

ALL versions will be in the same ballpark.

You mean PC will have the best version.

Not if its without HDR and Atmos again.

No offense to you spending your money on Atmos, but I would greatly like more fps, higher resolution, and better graphical detail in a game than Atmos and HDR. If the game doesn't look at good, runs on low fps (which is horrible once you get use to more), who cares what it sounds like.

If 30 FPS wasn’t fine, 30 FPS AAA games wouldn’t exist.

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#217 BassMan
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@Diddies said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@Steppy_76 said:

My God, you all just sound so stupid. The cows are essentially jumping up and down because the PS4 isn't losing quite as badly(and no not talking about sales before you all grasp that straw) as lems thought they were going to, yet the PS4 is STILL getting bested graphically and performancewise, then bring up exclusives(not relevant to this discussion about this singular game).

The XB1X will have the best version of the game.

ALL versions will be in the same ballpark.

You mean PC will have the best version.

Not if its without HDR and Atmos again.

No offense to you spending your money on Atmos, but I would greatly like more fps, higher resolution, and better graphical detail in a game than Atmos and HDR. If the game doesn't look at good, runs on low fps (which is horrible once you get use to more), who cares what it sounds like.

If 30 FPS wasn’t fine, 30 FPS AAA games wouldn’t exist.

You are going by peasant standards. 30fps is shit.

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On the lowest settings with performance mods and config tweaks? /s

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

GTX 1080 at X1X Settings has minimum framerates around 39 FPS

a 1060 on all low settings gets minimum frame rates around 29 FPS

Really?

Loading Video...

Here's the breakdown, frame rates in averages;

Cars3 - 45 fps (Ultra)
GTAV - 45 fps (Ultra)
PUBG - 35 fps (Med)
MEA - 25 fps avg (Med)
Witcher 3 - 35 fps (High)
Dirt 3 - 45 fps (Ultra/High)
Farcry Primal - 30 fps (Normal = med?)
Fallout 4 - 35 fps (High)

And that's with a GTX 1060, not even a 1070 or 1080. The worse case scenario being Mafia 3 that had to go to low settings, and just 3 out of those games at Med settings. All others being able to hit their benchmarks with High or better, and in ALL cases at native 4K, not fakes in checkerboard.

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#220 Creepywelps
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M3 getting slayed ITT.

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@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

GTX 1080 at X1X Settings has minimum framerates around 39 FPS

a 1060 on all low settings gets minimum frame rates around 29 FPS

Really?

Loading Video...

Here's the breakdown, frame rates in averages;

Cars3 - 45 fps (Ultra)

GTAV - 45 fps (Ultra)

PUBG - 35 fps (Med)

MEA - 25 fps avg (Med)

Witcher 3 - 35 fps (High)

Dirt 3 - 45 fps (Ultra/High)

Farcry Primal - 30 fps (Normal = med?)

Fallout 4 - 35 fps (High)

And that's with a GTX 1060, not even a 1070 or 1080. The worse case scenario being Mafia 3 that had to go to low settings, and just 3 out of those games at Med settings. All others being able to hit their benchmarks with High or better, and in ALL cases at native 4K, not fakes in checkerboard.

Conparing averages when X1X is capped at 30 to maintain consistent frame times and smoother frame rates is pointless.

Compare minimums vs minimums from r a true Apple to apple GPU comparison

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#222  Edited By Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: Nobody compares minimum to minimum. You're embarrassing yourself. With your lem logic pubg runs at 14fps on the x.

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#223 m3Boarder32
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@BassMan said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@Diddies said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

You mean PC will have the best version.

Not if its without HDR and Atmos again.

No offense to you spending your money on Atmos, but I would greatly like more fps, higher resolution, and better graphical detail in a game than Atmos and HDR. If the game doesn't look at good, runs on low fps (which is horrible once you get use to more), who cares what it sounds like.

If 30 FPS wasn’t fine, 30 FPS AAA games wouldn’t exist.

You are going by peasant standards. 30fps is shit.

review scores disagree

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@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Nobody compares minimum to minimum. You're embarrassing yourself. With your lem logic pubg runs at 14fps on the x.

Actually Digital Foundry typically does, they harp on the minimums all the time.

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#225  Edited By BassMan
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@BassMan said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@Diddies said:

No offense to you spending your money on Atmos, but I would greatly like more fps, higher resolution, and better graphical detail in a game than Atmos and HDR. If the game doesn't look at good, runs on low fps (which is horrible once you get use to more), who cares what it sounds like.

If 30 FPS wasn’t fine, 30 FPS AAA games wouldn’t exist.

You are going by peasant standards. 30fps is shit.

review scores disagree

I would refuse to review a game at 30fps unless it was a console exclusive and I had no other choice. Reviewers should always ask for PC review copies. :)

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@m3Boarder32: Lmao, the hell they do. Every single publication compares averages over .1% minimums. If the Df people read your thoughts on things they'd die of laughter.

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@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

GTX 1080 at X1X Settings has minimum framerates around 39 FPS

a 1060 on all low settings gets minimum frame rates around 29 FPS

Really?

Loading Video...

Here's the breakdown, frame rates in averages;

Cars3 - 45 fps (Ultra)

GTAV - 45 fps (Ultra)

PUBG - 35 fps (Med)

MEA - 25 fps avg (Med)

Witcher 3 - 35 fps (High)

Dirt 3 - 45 fps (Ultra/High)

Farcry Primal - 30 fps (Normal = med?)

Fallout 4 - 35 fps (High)

And that's with a GTX 1060, not even a 1070 or 1080. The worse case scenario being Mafia 3 that had to go to low settings, and just 3 out of those games at Med settings. All others being able to hit their benchmarks with High or better, and in ALL cases at native 4K, not fakes in checkerboard.

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#228  Edited By AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@m3Boarder32 said:

Conparing averages when X1X is capped at 30 to maintain consistent frame times and smoother frame rates is pointless.

Compare minimums vs minimums from r a true Apple to apple GPU comparison

LOL. Games on X1X (or any console) aren't capped at 30 fps for "smoother frame rates", they'll still have their minimums same as any other game. That frame cap is because aiming for a higher target is just too damn hard. They know it, they just don't want to admit it. Being limited to 30 fps is already bad enough, dropping below that is anything but "smooth or consistent".

And you can just see in the video yourself; for those games that were in the 45 fps average, they rarely went lower than 32 fps. The games that had a 30ish average (far fewer of them) would occasionally drop below 25. It doesn't matter if comparing averages or minimums, more games with a GTX 1060 (to say nothing of the 1070 and 1080) the minimums are still above the X1X limit.

You don't want to compare averages because you know (much as you'll try and deny it) X1X can't match even a GTX 1060, and trying to rely on minimums is a failed attempt to move the goal posts.

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@davillain- said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

Which is obviously not gonna happen with this game

Why?

1440p and 144 FPS? Maybe when you look up at the sky...

I have a 1080Ti.

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@m3Boarder32 said:

Conparing averages when X1X is capped at 30 to maintain consistent frame times and smoother frame rates is pointless.

Compare minimums vs minimums from r a true Apple to apple GPU comparison

Just another reason PC is better.

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#231  Edited By BassMan
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@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Nobody compares minimum to minimum. You're embarrassing yourself. With your lem logic pubg runs at 14fps on the x.

14fps LOL. I guess they didn't tap into the "power of the cloud". "Most powerful console ever." "Premium product" LMAO

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#232 m3Boarder32
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@m3Boarder32: Lmao, the hell they do. Every single publication compares averages over .1% minimums. If the Df people read your thoughts on things they'd die of laughter.

oh please, Digital Foundry recommends Killzone at 30 FPS Locked rather than the unlocked mode that averages 50 FPS and even hits 60 at times.

30 FPS locked is superior to 27-40 FPS when that 27 number is 3% lows

who the hell said anything about .1% lows

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#233  Edited By Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: You ever wonder why even Lems don't back you up in these situations (besides yourself on 1 of your 20 alts)? Because you say dumb shit like that.

And wtf do you think minimums are? You think df or anyone else is posting 3% mins? You have to be trolling, because I refuse to believe you're that stupid.

14fps race.

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#236  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@creepywelps said:@m3Boarder32: You ever wonder why even Lems don't back you up in these situations (besides yourself on 1 of your 20 alts)? Because you say dumb shit like that.

And wtf do you think minimums are? You think df or anyone else is posting 3% mins? You have to be trolling, because I refuse to believe you're that stupid.

14fps race.

Absolutely Digital foundry even posts 1% minimums

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#237 Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: Prove it. Don't be posting some console bs either.

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#238  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Prove it. Don't be posting some console bs either.

That Digital Foundry posts 1% and 5% minimums ?

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@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@drlostrib said:

why are you so concerned about what other people own?

was Going to ask him to run the benchmark on his 1070 at X1X Settings And 4K. I don’t think it will lock 30 FPS like X1X does

A GTX 1070 can play at or near 60 fps, going with High settings and probably even Ultra for the textures, all while running in 4K at native resolution, not having to resort to checkerboard upscaling as a crutch. Even a GTX 1060 can play in native 4K, just a matter of settings for maintaining above 30 fps.

GTX 1080 at X1X Settings has minimum framerates around 39 FPS

a 1060 on all low settings gets minimum frame rates around 29 FPS

Really?

Loading Video...

Here's the breakdown, frame rates in averages;

Cars3 - 45 fps (Ultra)

GTAV - 45 fps (Ultra)

PUBG - 35 fps (Med)

MEA - 25 fps avg (Med)

Witcher 3 - 35 fps (High)

Dirt 3 - 45 fps (Ultra/High)

Farcry Primal - 30 fps (Normal = med?)

Fallout 4 - 35 fps (High)

And that's with a GTX 1060, not even a 1070 or 1080. The worse case scenario being Mafia 3 that had to go to low settings, and just 3 out of those games at Med settings. All others being able to hit their benchmarks with High or better, and in ALL cases at native 4K, not fakes in checkerboard.

Post beNchmark/performance graphS at 4K. preferably showing 3% minimums.

Your videos are worthless without knowing exactly what settings X1X is using, what kind of AA, Motion Blur or not.

With Far Cry 5, X1X minimum frame rates are equal to a 1070 FE at X1X Settings

Far Cry 5 with a 1060 and X1X Settings gets around 23 FPS 5% minimums, that’s horrible and a Far Cry from the locked 30 FPS X1X is achieving

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#240  Edited By Diddies
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@BassMan said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@BassMan said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

If 30 FPS wasn’t fine, 30 FPS AAA games wouldn’t exist.

You are going by peasant standards. 30fps is shit.

review scores disagree

I would refuse to review a game at 30fps unless it was a console exclusive and I had no other choice. Reviewers should always ask for PC review copies. :)

If he would really rather have Atmos and HDR than higher frame rates, higher resolutions, and better graphical detail, than there is no winning him over. He sounds like he is just trying to rationalize his atmos purchase as none of us really care about it. And it is funny that he can't even fully use this OLED TV thanks to the One X.

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#241  Edited By Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: Still waiting for those 3% mins, bud.

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#242 m3Boarder32
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@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Still waiting for those 3% mins, bud.

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#243 m3Boarder32
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Even more extreme, 1%

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#244 Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: Omegalol, thanks. I love being right.

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#245  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@creepywelps said:

M3 getting slayed ITT.

Xbox dudes unanimously don't know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to tech. See: ColtEastwood and misterxmedia.

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#246 m3Boarder32
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@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Omegalol, thanks. I love being right.

Explain

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#247 Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: Explain how I love being right? Well, it just feels so damn good.

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#248 m3Boarder32
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Prove it. Don't be posting some console bs either.

That Digital Foundry posts 1% and 5% minimums ?

God I love being right

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#249 Creepywelps
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@m3Boarder32: You're not intelligent enough to be right.

14fps race.

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#250 DrLostRib
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@creepywelps said:

@m3Boarder32: Prove it. Don't be posting some console bs either.

That Digital Foundry posts 1% and 5% minimums ?

God I love being right

because it happens so rarely?