Sega not happy with sales of P5R in Japan.

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#1 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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If only there were a more popular handheld device that would boost sales for the franchise...

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/02/sega_laments_poor_performance_of_its_console_releases_in_latest_financial_report

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#2 Juub1990
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@briguyb13: Seriously, who’s the cretin at Sega who doesn’t see this? Persona 5 would sell a ton on the Switch and wouldn’t even have to be compromised.

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Well if they put it on th Switch I’d buy it ASAP.

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So this is not an exclusive that Sony has paid for its a stupid decision by Sega to only put it on one platform???

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#5  Edited By sakaiXx
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Unfortunately for Atlus, 400k sold in a month and the best remaster number they ever shipped in Japan compared P3FES, P3P and P4G still not enough to satisfy Sega. Unfortunate case being a division of big publisher.

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#6 lundy86_4
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Same as above. Switch, as well as PC, would be glorious for this game. It could also be that the Royal content just doesn't hold up, which is a shame, as P4G was excellent.

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#7 flashn00b
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I still can't see Persona 5 appearing on PC to be honest. Catherine Classic seems to be a failure and as I had expected, can best be described as Cladun X2-2: Electric Boogaloo.

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#8 X_CAPCOM_X
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All the switch port crying from people who don't even want the game in the first place.

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Having both Persona 5 on PS4/3 wasn't going to cut it if that's what Sega & Atlus thinks. The Switch is popular in Japan, so do yourself a favor Sega and release it on Switch. And as well on Steam cause that too will sell lots of units.

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@i_p_daily said:

So this is not an exclusive that Sony has paid for its a stupid decision by Sega to only put it on one platform???

Persona 5 is also on PS3, not just PS4 as one system. Unfortunately for Sega, they miss alot of money not having Persona 5 on Switch the most. Oh well, this is all on Sega.

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#11 Pedro  Online
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Just release it on more platforms. I know its sounds crazy.

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@Pedro said:

Just release it on more platforms. I know its sounds crazy.

It's only crazy if you don't like money🤷‍♂️

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@Juub1990 said:

@briguyb13: Seriously, who’s the cretin at Sega who doesn’t see this? Persona 5 would sell a ton on the Switch and wouldn’t even have to be compromised.

Makes me think Sony paid Atlus a ton of cash to keep it exclusive.

@lundy86_4 said:

Same as above. Switch, as well as PC, would be glorious for this game. It could also be that the Royal content just doesn't hold up, which is a shame, as P4G was excellent.

That's what I think as well. No way in hell am I paying another $60 for a few hours of new content within the same old 100 hour jrpg. Looks like the Japanese consumers also aren't buying it.

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@briguyb13 said:
@Juub1990 said:

@briguyb13: Seriously, who’s the cretin at Sega who doesn’t see this? Persona 5 would sell a ton on the Switch and wouldn’t even have to be compromised.

Makes me think Sony paid Atlus a ton of cash to keep it exclusive.

@lundy86_4 said:

Same as above. Switch, as well as PC, would be glorious for this game. It could also be that the Royal content just doesn't hold up, which is a shame, as P4G was excellent.

That's what I think as well. No way in hell am I paying another $60 for a few hours of new content within the same old 100 hour jrpg. Looks like the Japanese consumers also aren't buying it.

I think Persona 5R not being on PC is a lot more simpler than that, in that Atlus like most Japanese developers hate the PC platform

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#15 lamprey263
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I would pick it up if it came to Switch, sure lots of Japanese gamers would too. But Atlus would never think that's smart, nor Sega, they won't even fund sequels to Bayonetta but they'll make one shit Sonic games after another.

And if by some miracle it did happen, it wouldn't surprise me to learn Japanese audio only just short of release, they pulled that shit with Persona Q2 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but this will be even more flabbergasting because the game has already been localized.

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@flashn00b said:
@briguyb13 said:
@Juub1990 said:

@briguyb13: Seriously, who’s the cretin at Sega who doesn’t see this? Persona 5 would sell a ton on the Switch and wouldn’t even have to be compromised.

Makes me think Sony paid Atlus a ton of cash to keep it exclusive.

@lundy86_4 said:

Same as above. Switch, as well as PC, would be glorious for this game. It could also be that the Royal content just doesn't hold up, which is a shame, as P4G was excellent.

That's what I think as well. No way in hell am I paying another $60 for a few hours of new content within the same old 100 hour jrpg. Looks like the Japanese consumers also aren't buying it.

I think Persona 5R not being on PC is a lot more simpler than that, in that Atlus like most Japanese developers hate the PC platform

Japan don't port their games to PC in Japan but they do in west, hence why the delayed releases for PC. This is why many titles like Yakuza series or from Square or Nintendo friendly titles stays on console there. Those Sega guys are like the friendliest PC dev from japan so you will see a PC port unless its an exclusive title like Mario & Sonic.

Also unfortunately for beggars, Japanese gamer did buy the game, a lot, but didn't satisfy Sega very high expectation. Persona 5R sold 400k units in Japan including digital in a month as announced by Atlus and Sega CEO himself. It is the best selling Persona remake ever in japan.

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#17 Fedor
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PC and Switch ports incoming.

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#18 adsparky
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Both Persona 5 and Sakura Taisen are niche games that sold relatively well, Mario and Sonic games are steadily selling less with each new iteration, I sincerely don't know what SEGA expected.

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#19 TomaLevine
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Lmao, they will port it to switch with extra content like Square did dragon quest.

Real shame is why not Xbox?

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#21  Edited By deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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One of the greatest games of all time. It deserves to sell 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 copies.

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@subspecies: So, the game sucks. :)

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#23  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

All the switch port crying from people who don't even want the game in the first place.

And you know this... how? That would be like if I said "All this PS4/XBONE/PC port begging for *insert Platinum Game exclusively on Nintendo here* who don't even want the game in the first place", when the past couple days proved me WAY wrong if I ever did say it (W101 and Kickstarter... which I HATE that they did after a certain investment from a firm in a rival nation to Japan, not against a port otherwise, so don't start)

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If Sega has not come to terms there's demand for it on other platforms, then go figure they left the console race for a reason.

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@Pedro: Interesting take.

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Fascinating, in fact.

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#27  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:

So this is not an exclusive that Sony has paid for its a stupid decision by Sega to only put it on one platform???

Persona 5 is also on PS3, not just PS4 as one system. Unfortunately for Sega, they miss alot of money not having Persona 5 on Switch the most. Oh well, this is all on Sega.

Why would a dev not put their game on all gaming platforms if there isn't an exclusive deal is the mystery here.

Japanese devs are clueless, its like they're allergic to money lol.

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This is why I just can't have only an xbox games like this just don't come to xbox. This is why ps4 is better and all that jazz. How can you survive this gen without persona 5? I just don't see it happening Microsoft needs to push these developers or bribe them.

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#29 jeezers
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If I'm going to play a turn based jrpg, I prefer the switch, I've always prefered playing these types of games handheld, I cant justify taking up the living room tv and couch for it, I own Persona already on ps4, still havent beaten it, if the TV is in use, I move to the switch or pc... when I want to game.

there is no benefit of me having to play this game on my ps4, if i want to play a text heavy weaboo game, i want to do it on handheld so people can't see what im doing

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#30 Litchie
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Isn't that the same game, slightly updated, for full price?

Well, I hope it doesn't sell.

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If it's not that different from original, then what incentive do previous players have to get it?

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#32 djoffer
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Playing persona 5 as we speak and think it’s great. However I have zero desire to pay another 60 bucks for something that every other developer would release as a dlc

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#33 Ghost120x
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It’s essentially the same game with with a few extras charged at full price. It’s basically pure profit for them. What were they expecting lol

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#34 enzyme36
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Should have made Phantasy Star 5 instead :P

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#35 Maroxad
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I wonder how well it would have done on PC or Switch. Especially given the booming visual novel market on the former and Joker presence of Smash on the latter.

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@nintendoboy16: for one, I don't port beg. If I wanted to play x exclusive game bad enough, I would have bought the platform for it.

Many customers think this way, in fact. Theres enough marketing data such that companies exploit this, for example, placing mario next to the switch logo when marketing it.

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@nintendoboy16: for one, I don't port beg. If I wanted to play x exclusive game bad enough, I would have bought the platform for it.

Many customers think this way, in fact. Theres enough marketing data such that companies exploit this, for example, placing mario next to the switch logo when marketing it.

Well, that's you. Much as port begging can be annoying (and I agree, I mean it's port beggars that review bombed Astral Chain, still sour Platinum is/was working with Nintendo), but you understand WHY they do it. Not everyone wants to own more than one damn system, so they want AT LEAST third party games on as many systems as f***ing possible (first party owned IP's though? Well, it depends. Take Nintendo for instance. You see Mario/Zelda/Pokemon on PlayStation/XBOX/PC... yeah, we've seen how WELL Mario fares in the mobile sector).

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@nintendoboy16: i should qualify that. I did fill out that japanese survey asking to put persona on pc as well as their other games. I think catherine was the product of that. Thing is, they released full body on ps4 which deincentivized me to pick up the pc version.

Another thing: If a switch version releases, will it have the extra content in royal? I'm guessing it would be the ps3 version.

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@nintendoboy16: i should qualify that. I did fill out that japanese survey asking to put persona on pc as well as their other games. I think catherine was the product of that. Thing is, they released full body on ps4 which deincentivized me to pick up the pc version.

Another thing: If a switch version releases, will it have the extra content in royal? I'm guessing it would be the ps3 version.

It would be STUPID if it didn't. Just ask otherwise historically PlayStation friendly Square Enix and the extra content they gave the Switch version of Dragon Quest XI.

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#40  Edited By ChrisChronos
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They should of released it as a expansion pack on both physical and digital at about a £20-30 price tag instead of making people buy the entire game all over and expecting it to sell well.

Sega making all the wrong decisions right now, also what is with making PSO2 North America servers only? Do PSO players not exist in the EU? Ffs.