Scarlett probably most dissapointing console announcement since ever

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#51 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@rmpumper said:
@npiet1 said:

I could buy the PS5 and Scarlett and it still would be cheaper than upgrading my PC to the same quality.

So you already know the prices of the new console, right? Not to mention that they are coming Q4 2020, when PC will already have a new gen on GPUs and CPUs.

Yeah and the gpu's will still be $1000.

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#52 Edited by Son-Goku7523 (955 posts) -
@xhawk27 said:

Yeah like the PS5 reveal? lol

Sony didn't waste our time with a shitty conference like MS. Face it, MS fell on their faces yesterday and their reveal was dogshit. Sony already announced the same features weeks ago without unnecessary fanfare and stole their thunder. MS wasted our time with a duplicate of the Scorpio reveal only to tell us what Sony has already told us weeks earlier, what a fail.

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#53 Posted by ronvalencia (28046 posts) -

@tormentos said:

The bad thing about it is that they hinted about scarlet talks and just gave nothing,and in fact what they claim the scarlet will do is already known then PS5 will do it as well.

The presentation was basically the same thing they did for the xbox one X,is like what the hell is 2016 again? The presentation was in the same exact way the xbox one X one was.

MS was like well sony is not here.

Lets show a bunch of multiplatforms no halo gameplay and toss some Scarlet crumbs in it to make it look like we have something great.

@ronvalencia said:
@jahnee said:

I have never seen a more marketing jargon filled console announcement, no actual playable games shown, no specs shown, no UI, no console or controller but just usual MS jargon tossed around. What a missed oppertunity by M$. I still know nothing of this console other than what was already logical.

AMD's hardware accelerated ray-tracing is not yet ready.

MS revealed APU size relative to GDDR6 memory modules.

Sony has revealed 8 core Zen v2 CPU for PS5.

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You really are then KING of talking shit that no one is arguing about,there is nothing in your post that has to do with what you quoted from that guy NOTHING.

You insist in turning simple post from people into a tech talk about chip size man you re desperate for attention

You're the real KING of SHIT. Fu-oFF.

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#54 Posted by rmpumper (649 posts) -

@npiet1 said:
@rmpumper said:
@npiet1 said:

I could buy the PS5 and Scarlett and it still would be cheaper than upgrading my PC to the same quality.

So you already know the prices of the new console, right? Not to mention that they are coming Q4 2020, when PC will already have a new gen on GPUs and CPUs.

Yeah and the gpu's will still be $1000.

Classic console kid, comparing top of the line GPU prices with mid level console equivalent.

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#55 Posted by I_P_Daily (12018 posts) -

@jahnee said:

I have never seen a more marketing jargon filled console announcement, no actual playable games shown, no specs shown, no UI, no console or controller but just usual MS jargon tossed around. What a missed oppertunity by M$. I still know nothing of this console other than what was already logical.

Did you miss the written interview about the PS5 reveal???

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#56 Posted by I_P_Daily (12018 posts) -

@subspecies said:

Ya don't say, lol. Botched announcement, botched show. A bunch of cartoony looking games. Freaking Lego DLC. This was MS's big chance to show they've turned things around, and instead they crapped the bed.

And what did Sony show at E3...oh my bad I keep forgetting...

Oh and how did Sony reveal the PS5, through a written interview LOL

Stay salty reduc :)

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#58 Posted by tdkmillsy (3133 posts) -

@tormentos said:
@the-a-baum said:

So Sony said practically the same thing through interviews and did not show up to E3 themselves and cows lose their minds?!

Sony's CEO has famously said in the past "why go first?" They would love MS to show their hand this early, copy their homework and look like geniuses like2013.

MS is not going to make it that easy this time. They gave you a date of Holiday 2020, it is actually on Sony if they want to go earlier at this point.

Price&specs are all coming hot and late as soon as one or the other is announced.

Also that new Halo engine looks awesome so far, I bet they start using it for more 1st party games and license it out to 3rd party.

Yeah we are going to need a link for that NyaDC.

You are a fool if you think you can make last minute change into hardware like that,if it was that easy MS would have change the xbox one Soc in 2013.

Dude they didn't even show gameply man you lemmings are lol worthy.

@phbz said:

We have to take in consideration that cow's best E3 ever consisted of a multiplatform remake, a PS3 game for the PS4 and a Kickstarter. They have really high standards.

Everything MS showed could be get elsewhere.

@thatdbfan said:

It's honestly a lot of times hilarious watching them go full on SALT mode every time MS announces something big. Microsoft might as well start labeling their E3 conferences as "Xbox SALT 2019 Press Conference."

Na since you lemms fell for every crap MS spew they may as well call it xbox coolaid 2019.

https://metro.co.uk/2013/01/21/why-go-first-says-sony-boss-of-playstation-4-3360338/

They did say why go first. So why did they go first?? Hmmm

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#59 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@rmpumper: Yeah but the point is. I could buy a ps5 and Xbox instead of upgrading my PC to the same level.

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#60 Edited by nefariouscheat (13 posts) -

I dont get the endless console wars, Play the one who fits you, play the one who you friends also play on. I personally dont care that much for exclusives, I have own both but ending up selling my PS4... why? Because most of my friends play on XBOX and we play mostly Battlefield. :)

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#61 Edited by SecretPolice (35324 posts) -

@Macutchi:

Is that you, Napoleon? lol :)

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#62 Posted by rmpumper (649 posts) -

@npiet1 said:

@rmpumper: Yeah but the point is. I could buy a ps5 and Xbox instead of upgrading my PC to the same level.

Sure, if your PC is a Pentium 2.

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#63 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@rmpumper: that just shows how little you know about computers.

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#64 Posted by Macutchi (6791 posts) -
@SecretPolice said:

@Macutchi:

Is that you, Napoleon? lol :)

naw it's jus me forrest :) i don't know what that gif means lol

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#65 Posted by Kali-B1rd (2181 posts) -
@npiet1 said:
@Gatygun said:
@npiet1 said:

I could buy the PS5 and Scarlett and it still would be cheaper than upgrading my PC to the same quality.

Lol nope.

Only thing people have to do most likely is upgrade there GPU for a 300 buck one when those consoles releases and done they are.

How is a 300 upgrade going to be the same quality as the scarlett and ps5?

@kali-b1rd said:
@npiet1 said:

I could buy the PS5 and Scarlett and it still would be cheaper than upgrading my PC to the same quality.

But have much less of everything.

Get what you pay for.

like?

games.

features.

custimsation.

mods.

games.

games.

games.

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#66 Posted by tormentos (29185 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

https://metro.co.uk/2013/01/21/why-go-first-says-sony-boss-of-playstation-4-3360338/

They did say why go first. So why did they go first?? Hmmm

Kaz Hirai has denied rumours that Sony will announce a new console before Microsoft, claiming that there’s no advantage to doing so.

Interviewed by The Times, Hirai was asked when to expect an announcement on the PlayStation 4, to which he answered: ‘Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?’

From your own link..

Kaz say that to trow journalist off and not blew up their plans want to know what happen in reality?

Sony announces the PlayStation 4, launching at the end of 2013

As introduced by lead system architect Mark Cerny, the PS4 is based on a "supercharged PC architecture," with an X86 processor, enhanced PC-style GPU, and 8GB of GDDR5 unified high-speed memory. The controller is called, unsurprisingly, the DualShock 4, and features the Vita-style touchpad we'd heard about, and a light bar on the back to identify players. Each PS4 will contain a 3D camera to track the various controllers using the bar. The PS4 contains 8 CPU cores, providing almost 2 teraflops of computational performance. The power allows for 30,000 polygons to be rendered in real time (by way of comparison, Heavy Rain on the PS3 utilized 15,000). "Overall, our goal has been to architect the system to support a breadth of experiences," said Cerny.

https://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4009410/sony-playstation-4-ps4-announcement

Reality 1 month after what you posted sony reveal the PS4 AHEAD of MS xbox one with SPECS.

Confirming what sony denyed just one month before.

So again the crap @the-a-baum spewed was wrong and you can't change hardware like that,sony can't say lets way until MS say something to copy them what if MS talk 1 month before launch?

That is as sad as the notion of Sony not blocking used game in order to screw MS,which you people invented as well.

So next time see context analyse why then jump in.

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#67 Posted by tdkmillsy (3133 posts) -

@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

https://metro.co.uk/2013/01/21/why-go-first-says-sony-boss-of-playstation-4-3360338/

They did say why go first. So why did they go first?? Hmmm

Kaz Hirai has denied rumours that Sony will announce a new console before Microsoft, claiming that there’s no advantage to doing so.

Interviewed by The Times, Hirai was asked when to expect an announcement on the PlayStation 4, to which he answered: ‘Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?’

From your own link..

Kaz say that to trow journalist off and not blew up their plans want to know what happen in reality?

Sony announces the PlayStation 4, launching at the end of 2013

As introduced by lead system architect Mark Cerny, the PS4 is based on a "supercharged PC architecture," with an X86 processor, enhanced PC-style GPU, and 8GB of GDDR5 unified high-speed memory. The controller is called, unsurprisingly, the DualShock 4, and features the Vita-style touchpad we'd heard about, and a light bar on the back to identify players. Each PS4 will contain a 3D camera to track the various controllers using the bar. The PS4 contains 8 CPU cores, providing almost 2 teraflops of computational performance. The power allows for 30,000 polygons to be rendered in real time (by way of comparison, Heavy Rain on the PS3 utilized 15,000). "Overall, our goal has been to architect the system to support a breadth of experiences," said Cerny.

https://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4009410/sony-playstation-4-ps4-announcement

Reality 1 month after what you posted sony reveal the PS4 AHEAD of MS xbox one with SPECS.

Confirming what sony denyed just one month before.

So again the crap @the-a-baum spewed was wrong and you can't change hardware like that,sony can't say lets way until MS say something to copy them what if MS talk 1 month before launch?

That is as sad as the notion of Sony not blocking used game in order to screw MS,which you people invented as well.

So next time see context analyse why then jump in.

Errr you questioned if it had been said and asked for a link.

I provided a link showing it was said.

No context required,

If anything you made it worse, he said he wouldn't go first then a month later he did.

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#68 Posted by tormentos (29185 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

Errr you questioned if it had been said and asked for a link.

I provided a link showing it was said.

No context required,

If anything you made it worse, he said he wouldn't go first then a month later he did.

But it wasn't on that context the guy twisted what Kaz say.

And again is pretty clear because i bolded the complete part so yeah we would still need a link to that claim and you failed again at trying.

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#69 Posted by tdkmillsy (3133 posts) -

@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Errr you questioned if it had been said and asked for a link.

I provided a link showing it was said.

No context required,

If anything you made it worse, he said he wouldn't go first then a month later he did.

But it wasn't on that context the guy twisted what Kaz say.

And again is pretty clear because i bolded the complete part so yeah we would still need a link to that claim and you failed again at trying.

Ok, what did he actually say then? to get twisted.

With a link please

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#70 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@kali-b1rd: by games you mean crappy Indies and if any are even decent the come to console now anyway. I'll give you mods but I never used them anyway.

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#71 Posted by The-A-Baum (1363 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:

https://metro.co.uk/2013/01/21/why-go-first-says-sony-boss-of-playstation-4-3360338/

They did say why go first. So why did they go first?? Hmmm

Kaz Hirai has denied rumours that Sony will announce a new console before Microsoft, claiming that there’s no advantage to doing so.

Interviewed by The Times, Hirai was asked when to expect an announcement on the PlayStation 4, to which he answered: ‘Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?’

From your own link..

Kaz say that to trow journalist off and not blew up their plans want to know what happen in reality?

Sony announces the PlayStation 4, launching at the end of 2013

As introduced by lead system architect Mark Cerny, the PS4 is based on a "supercharged PC architecture," with an X86 processor, enhanced PC-style GPU, and 8GB of GDDR5 unified high-speed memory. The controller is called, unsurprisingly, the DualShock 4, and features the Vita-style touchpad we'd heard about, and a light bar on the back to identify players. Each PS4 will contain a 3D camera to track the various controllers using the bar. The PS4 contains 8 CPU cores, providing almost 2 teraflops of computational performance. The power allows for 30,000 polygons to be rendered in real time (by way of comparison, Heavy Rain on the PS3 utilized 15,000). "Overall, our goal has been to architect the system to support a breadth of experiences," said Cerny.

https://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4009410/sony-playstation-4-ps4-announcement

Reality 1 month after what you posted sony reveal the PS4 AHEAD of MS xbox one with SPECS.

Confirming what sony denyed just one month before.

So again the crap @the-a-baum spewed was wrong and you can't change hardware like that,sony can't say lets way until MS say something to copy them what if MS talk 1 month before launch?

That is as sad as the notion of Sony not blocking used game in order to screw MS,which you people invented as well.

So next time see context analyse why then jump in.

Errr you questioned if it had been said and asked for a link.

I provided a link showing it was said.

No context required,

If anything you made it worse, he said he wouldn't go first then a month later he did.

Exactly right here. They let MS go first saw the hate they got for $500 with Kinnect so the took the camera out of the box and dropped the price to $400!

And damn straight they had DRM plans too! They are not the good guys you fanboys try to paint them to be. They just have had the opportunity of going second. All they do is copy someone else's homework and capitalize on mistakes when they could change them.

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#72 Posted by MclarenMaster18 (1558 posts) -

It's still in development and how can you say it's going to be a bad console?

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#73 Posted by tormentos (29185 posts) -

@the-a-baum said:

Exactly right here. They let MS go first saw the hate they got for $500 with Kinnect so the took the camera out of the box and dropped the price to $400!

And damn straight they had DRM plans too! They are not the good guys you fanboys try to paint them to be. They just have had the opportunity of going second. All they do is copy someone else's homework and capitalize on mistakes when they could change them.

NO.

The PS4 was never confirm to come with a camera,so stop making shit up,sony reveal its specs even before MS did.

No they did not and it was proven by the fact that sony didn't even need a damn update on day 1 to remove it.

The machine is also equipped with one Type III PC card slot. In 2001, Sony will ship a PC Card Ethernet adapter so that the PS2 can connect directly to the Internet via a cable modem, Sony's Kutaragi said. At the same time, the vendor will sell a high-capacity hard drive for the PS2, he added.

http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/14/ps2.idg/

Sony clearly talking about ethernet port and hdd before the PS2 even launch.

So tell me what other console other came with an hdd,ethernet port and dvd?

Plese don't talk about who copy who after a reveal,by the way the xbox was unveil on paper on march 10 2000 the PS2 was already out.

@tdkmillsy said:

Ok, what did he actually say then? to get twisted.

With a link please

Sony's CEO has famously said in the past "why go first?" They would love MS to show their hand this early, copy their homework and look like geniuses like2013.

So tell me why after sony claim they would not supposely go first they did?

Second can you tell me what the fu** did sony copy from MS in 2013?

Spin it all you want sony was just throwing off journalist to not blow the february reveal history is there period Sony unveiled the PS4 before MS unveiled the xbox so yeah tormy 1 you people 0.

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#74 Posted by SecretPolice (35324 posts) -

@Macutchi said:
@SecretPolice said:

@Macutchi:

Is that you, Napoleon? lol :)

naw it's jus me forrest :) i don't know what that gif means lol

Oh umm, because you said you knew that was a sheep brain not cow I figured like Napoleon, you knew a lot about animals lol. Perhaps you were saying sheep as in SW sheep and I missed that but nevertheless, I backfired lol.

Love Forest tho. :P

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#75 Posted by Macutchi (6791 posts) -
@SecretPolice said:
@Macutchi said:
@SecretPolice said:

@Macutchi:

Is that you, Napoleon? lol :)

naw it's jus me forrest :) i don't know what that gif means lol

Oh umm, because you said you knew that was a sheep brain not cow I figured like Napoleon, you knew a lot about animals lol. Perhaps you were saying sheep as in SW sheep and I missed that but nevertheless, I backfired lol.

Love Forest tho. :P

no i meant a literal sheep lol. didn't realise napoleon knew a lot about animals! every day's a school day :)

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#76 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (8409 posts) -

Considering when they're releasing it, they don't want to give away anything important just yet, while the competition could match that.

For example, Sony made a big deal out of loading times, surprise surprise, now Xbox are doing that too. Sony should have kept that to themselves until next year. By then it would be too late for any major changes by the competition.

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#77 Posted by kingtito (10377 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:
@subspecies said:

Ya don't say, lol. Botched announcement, botched show. A bunch of cartoony looking games. Freaking Lego DLC. This was MS's big chance to show they've turned things around, and instead they crapped the bed.

And what did Sony show at E3...oh my bad I keep forgetting...

Oh and how did Sony reveal the PS5, through a written interview LOL

Stay salty reduc :)

LOLOL and somehow a written interview is better than an announcement at E3 where almost the exact same information was shared lololol only in cow land is that considered better

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#78 Edited by lamprey263 (36139 posts) -

If MS came out and revealed final specs I've no doubt Sony would alter their plans to overtake them on power, no doubt MS would do same if shoe were on other foot. I am guessing we won't hear plans from either of something more concrete for a while.

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#79 Posted by clone01 (27486 posts) -

Like the PS5 reveal?

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#81 Posted by Kali-B1rd (2181 posts) -
@npiet1 said:

@kali-b1rd: by games you mean crappy Indies and if any are even decent the come to console now anyway. I'll give you mods but I never used them anyway.

I mean yea if youre a tunnel visioned shallow specimen maybe.

What do you get exclusive on xbox.

Oh that's right... nothing.

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#82 Posted by lhughey (4642 posts) -

They would have been foolish to start the hype train of the console 16 months before it goes on sale. They want to continue selling the XBX. There will be several occasions to speak more about Scarlett. They just wanted to confirm rumors and most importantly let people know that it will have BC, so games you buy from now until then will work on it.

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#83 Edited by Basinboy (13897 posts) -

@lhughey: It would have been the same timetable as Scorpio announcement to X1X release, as well as the same timetable from X1 launch to Scorpio announcement.

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#84 Posted by lhughey (4642 posts) -
@Basinboy said:

@lhughey: It would have been the same timetable as Scorpio announcement to X1X release, as well as the same timetable from X1 launch to Scorpio announcement.

Good thought. I thought about that too. I think the difference is that the XBX still has a lot of life left in it. They could lower the price and give it some legs, whereas the X1 needed a shot in the arm.

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#85 Posted by SaltSlasher (1140 posts) -

Complaining at its best. It wasn't the big "unveil", it was announcing they are working on it, which made sense since everyone already knew it was coming cause of AMD. So why not acknowledge they are working on it, and give us all the info we need.

Also, I'm super hyped, it sounds amazing, I loved X, I love the new elite controller, love the game pass and love everything they are doing, and launching with Halo, what on earth did you want them to do 18ish months til launch?!?

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#86 Posted by joebones5000 (2301 posts) -

@Gatygun said:
@npiet1 said:

I could buy the PS5 and Scarlett and it still would be cheaper than upgrading my PC to the same quality.

Lol nope.

Only thing people have to do most likely is upgrade there GPU for a 300 buck one when those consoles releases and done they are.

Sure, if they aren't still rocking an AMD FX 6300 like me. I'd have to spend about $800, which is likely less than the sum of a ps5 and scarlett.

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#87 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@kali-b1rd said:
@npiet1 said:

@kali-b1rd: by games you mean crappy Indies and if any are even decent the come to console now anyway. I'll give you mods but I never used them anyway.

I mean yea if youre a tunnel visioned shallow specimen maybe.

What do you get exclusive on xbox.

Oh that's right... nothing.

Oh yeah such great indies that all belong in the 16-bit era.

What AAA even AA exclusives do you get on PC these days?

Oh that's right none, just port begging.

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#88 Posted by Jippo (106 posts) -

@jahnee said:

I have never seen a more marketing jargon filled console announcement, no actual playable games shown, no specs shown, no UI, no console or controller but just usual MS jargon tossed around. What a missed oppertunity by M$. I still know nothing of this console other than what was already logical.

lol...………..what did sony show?

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#89 Posted by Telekill (8484 posts) -

Yeah, I'm not counting this or the info we have on PS5 as the proper reveals. Once we see the physical systems, controllers and games... then.

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#90 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (8615 posts) -

@Telekill said:

Yeah, I'm not counting this or the info we have on PS5 as the proper reveals. Once we see the physical systems, controllers and games... then.

This was done at a conference though. The same information conveyed via a couple interviews was hyped beforehand and given some figurative confetti.

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#91 Posted by DaVillain- (36864 posts) -

@npiet1: Well let me ask you this. Are you willingly to sacrifice open-house platform PC over a closed-ecosystem just to buy PS5/Xbox Scarlet? I could be running my old GTX 970 to this day and still enjoy gaming on PC, 1080p is still good for most PC gamers, and if you care about raw graphics, of course your gonna need more GPU power like a 1080Ti.

Only when you feel there is a specific software that is not running with the quality and fps that you expect from your personal experience. Ignore new consoles, new tech, etc... only when you find such a game and you set it up to how you wanna play it and if it drops frames then consider new hardware to upgrade. Food for thought, nothing more/less.

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#92 Posted by npiet1 (2308 posts) -

@davillain-: I've got a 1060 6gb paired with a ryzen 5 1400. It dips below 60 on some new AAA games (GPU runs at 100%, CPU 99%). I prefer graphicas over fps but like to maintain it at that level. So for me to continue at that level I'll need to upgrade at some point in the next year or two. So instead of paying $1000 to upgrade (if not more). I'd rather buy both consoles. I'm a true manticore, I don't care about brands only good games. PC doesn't have AAA exclusives or are cheaper than buying on console like it use to be. Infact it's cheaper to game now on the Xbox since GP. I'm not going to get rid of my PC just don't see the point to upgrade it more when the next gen seems like in ratio to price and performance it more worth it.

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#93 Posted by Pedro (34904 posts) -
My reaction after reading OP
My reaction after reading OP

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#94 Edited by DaVillain- (36864 posts) -

@npiet1 said:

@davillain-: I've got a 1060 6gb paired with a ryzen 5 1400. It dips below 60 on some new AAA games (GPU runs at 100%, CPU 99%). I prefer graphicas over fps but like to maintain it at that level. So for me to continue at that level I'll need to upgrade at some point in the next year or two. So instead of paying $1000 to upgrade (if not more). I'd rather buy both consoles. I'm a true manticore, I don't care about brands only good games. PC doesn't have AAA exclusives or are cheaper than buying on console like it use to be. Infact it's cheaper to game now on the Xbox since GP. I'm not going to get rid of my PC just don't see the point to upgrade it more when the next gen seems like in ratio to price and performance it more worth it.

Fair enough. It's your decision how you want you're PC to do. While I don't care for AAA PC titles like that, I just like everything to play and run better on PC. Nothing wrong with consoles, I just love the open-ecosystem that PC has for generations. I'll get a PS5 for sure, just for exclusive games however.

There's no doubt both PS5/Xbox Scarlet will focus on graphics over better framerates so that'll fit right up in your alley.

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#95 Posted by Raining51 (1124 posts) -

@jahnee said:

I have never seen a more marketing jargon filled console announcement, no actual playable games shown, no specs shown, no UI, no console or controller but just usual MS jargon tossed around. What a missed oppertunity by M$. I still know nothing of this console other than what was already logical.

Yeah what a smoking pile of bologna cheese the scarlett will be the biggest gen failure ever.

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#96 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (20221 posts) -

I think the difference between the Project Scarlet reveal and PS5 reveal is that MS actually teased about Scarlet. We had expectations going into that E3 that we were going to see a new console out of them. PS5 was just a random day interview that popped up online with no expectations from anyone. MS just didn’t deliver the goods with this one.

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#97 Posted by tdkmillsy (3133 posts) -

@Ragnarok1051 said:

I think the difference between the Project Scarlet reveal and PS5 reveal is that MS actually teased about Scarlet. We had expectations going into that E3 that we were going to see a new console out of them. PS5 was just a random day interview that popped up online with no expectations from anyone. MS just didn’t deliver the goods with this one.

I didn't see or go into it thinking that, but if that's what they did then I can see why people would be disappointed.

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#98 Posted by Ragnarok1051 (20221 posts) -

@tdkmillsy: They teased a console reveal the day before their conference. People knew it would be there in some capacity.

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#99 Posted by Raining51 (1124 posts) -

No this is Microsoft ho showing their dedication.

Video games has a crazy trajectory and xbox completely altered the coursw eof video games more than probably any other system...

There's just so much wh at was added to the whole industry because of their dedication and committment to power and prestige... that I honestly think t it's pretty clear

that Scarlett will hit harder than a freight train comparable to how it took several decades for Nintendo to establish prominence in the 90s MS is ramping up to own the 2020s IMO.

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@kali-b1rd: by games you mean crappy Indies and if any are even decent the come to console now anyway. I'll give you mods but I never used them anyway.

I mean yea if youre a tunnel visioned shallow specimen maybe.

What do you get exclusive on xbox.

Oh that's right... nothing.

Oh yeah such great indies that all belong in the 16-bit era.

What AAA even AA exclusives do you get on PC these days?

Oh that's right none, just port begging.

Ah yes, more than 100+ AAEs this gen of the second system. I'd take that over... 0 good exclusives....

If you was a Cow at least you would have some legit ammo, but an xbox fan saying this? LOL