Rumor: Sony working on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royal 2 for PS5 launch

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Posted by SolidGame_basic (24468 posts) 14 days, 21 hours ago

Poll: Rumor: Sony working on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royal 2 for PS5 launch (55 votes)

Oh yeah! 36%
Why? 64%

https://screenrant.com/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-2-ps5-rumors/

According to a post on Reddit detailing a supposed leak from a Capcom USA developer, the sequel will be called PlayStation All-Stars Arena and release as a launch title for the PlayStation 5. The stated information goes on to detail gameplay which "plays like Dissidia mixed with Power Stone" and describes a game that is fully 3D in order to distance itself from the Super Smash Bros. series from which it originally drew inspiration, with an art style composed of cartoon backgrounds and cel-shaded characters.

Characters that will supposedly be appearing in the upcoming sequel include Jill Valentine from the Resident Evil series, Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid, the recently purchased Spider-Man, and Aloy from Horizon: Zero Dawn. With the Spyro Reignited Trilogy remake and recent Crash Team Racing game having brought their respective franchise mascots back into public view, their appearance on the rumored list of confirmed fighters is no surprise. The full roster is said to include:

  • Nathan Drake
  • Kratos
  • Sack Boy
  • Ratchet and Clank
  • Jak and Daxter
  • Spider-Man
  • Aloy
  • Helghast Soldier
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Spyro the Dragon
  • Tomb Raider
  • Jill Valentine
  • Sir Daniel Fortesque
  • Kat
  • Dante
  • Parappa The Rapper
  • Ellie
  • Delsin Rowe
  • Cloud
  • Solid Snake
  • Ryu
  • Chun Li

I played the original PlayStation All-Stars, and I'm surprised that there may be a sequel in the works. But hey, I'm open to it as long as it's much better than the original. The first one was a half assed effort in my opinion. Especially when you compare it to Smash Bros.

What do you think, SW? Is this true? Do you want it to be true? lol.

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#1 Posted by Ant_17 (12904 posts) -

Considering there is already a fan dev in dreams working on it, don't thinnk they are.

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#2 Posted by Zero_epyon (13373 posts) -

didn't the last one bomb?

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#3 Edited by Nike_Air (19357 posts) -

The 3rd party roster looks fake af , but if they ever attempted this again it would HAVE TO HAVE Spyro and Crash at least.

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#4 Posted by jaydan (2491 posts) -

Lol they embarrassed themselves the first time around trying to copy the Smash Bros. formula. At this point I don't even see what's the bother with trying to do it again when Smash Bros. Ultimate is setting the bar so high for the brawler genre that I don't think any other game will ever even come close to it, not even a future Smash Bros. game.

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#5 Posted by Zidaneski (8854 posts) -

I enjoyed the first game for the most part. I appreciated that while it was trying to SB it was different enough gameplay wise to have some fun in and play against friends that also had much love for PlayStation mascots.

This rumored list actually looks doable and I don’t have anything problems with it. I’m more concerned about the dissidia style which I dunno how they intend to pull that off. Even Dissidia NT couldn’t do the dissidia style right, lol.

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#6 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5043 posts) -

Yeeeeah I doubt that. The Smash wannabees by far and large get ignored. It's not worth chasing. The only reason Smash really took off in the first place is the fact that Nintendo fans are kind of a death cult that worship all the characters the company produces.

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#8 Posted by jaydan (2491 posts) -
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Yeeeeah I doubt that. The Smash wannabees by far and large get ignored. It's not worth chasing. The only reason Smash really took off in the first place is the fact that Nintendo fans are kind of a death cult that worship all the characters the company produces.

I know this might come as a complete shock to you: but Smash Bros. is also just a far superior game package than Playstation All-stars in general, both over gameplay and content. That has much more to do with Smash being a more popular franchise.

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#9 Posted by adsparky (1451 posts) -

It would be great if it were a minigame collection instead of just trying to copy smash.

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#10 Posted by ermacness (8155 posts) -

@jaydan:

Well if you're comparing the latest SSB to PASBR, then yeah, but if we're comparing the SSB iteration that was up for the challenge when PASBR released (SSBB) then there were some things that PASBR did better than SSBB. Some of these things that PASBR did better was not only very noticeable, but also could be looked as an important asset.

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#11 Posted by jcrame10 (5229 posts) -

Roster looks like a dream come true. Hence dream. Fake. Fanboy dream.

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#12 Edited by jcrame10 (5229 posts) -

@Zero_epyon said:

didn't the last one bomb?

The last one was lazily done, no effort. Boring backgrounds and stills for story cutscenes. Also it didn't help a lot of the characters and stages were total obvious cashgrabs- using the new Dante to promote the upcoming DMC remake instead of the original Dante, throwing in Big Daddy and a BioShock Infinite stage, Using Raiden instead of Snake to promote Metal Gear Rising. It was tacky.

If they do it again, they definitely need to include all the classic PS characters and use the best versions of them. I'm talking orginal Dante, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Lara Croft, Cloud, Solid Snake, Rayman, Gex and Croc gotta be there next to Sweet Tooth, Nathan Drake, Kratos, Cole, Parappa, Sir Dante and Sackboy.

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#13 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5043 posts) -

@jaydan said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Yeeeeah I doubt that. The Smash wannabees by far and large get ignored. It's not worth chasing. The only reason Smash really took off in the first place is the fact that Nintendo fans are kind of a death cult that worship all the characters the company produces.

I know this might come as a complete shock to you: but Smash Bros. is also just a far superior game package than Playstation All-stars in general, both over gameplay and content. That has much more to do with Smash being a more popular franchise.

That would come as a shock to me, because if you did the exact same game anywhere else it wouldn't be 1/20th as popular. Not a lot of people would find a game of this type engaging on other platforms. This game is popular because of Nintendo power, period.

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#14 Posted by jaydan (2491 posts) -
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@jaydan said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Yeeeeah I doubt that. The Smash wannabees by far and large get ignored. It's not worth chasing. The only reason Smash really took off in the first place is the fact that Nintendo fans are kind of a death cult that worship all the characters the company produces.

I know this might come as a complete shock to you: but Smash Bros. is also just a far superior game package than Playstation All-stars in general, both over gameplay and content. That has much more to do with Smash being a more popular franchise.

That would come as a shock to me, because if you did the exact same game anywhere else it wouldn't be 1/20th as popular. Not a lot of people would find a game of this type engaging on other platforms. This game is popular because of Nintendo power, period.

Are you sure of that? There just happens to not be a game franchise of this pedigree or quality on any other platform. Sure, there are brawlers out there, but none of them come up to the quality of Smash Bros.

OF COURSE Nintendo has a lot to do with the success as well, because they're the ones that created it and made it into a successful franchise in the first place, but to look at that as the only reason for its success is very shortsighted only someone that doesn't actually play the series can come up with. That to me is about as dumb as saying "the Uncharted games are only successful because of Sony - they made the games."

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#15 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5043 posts) -

@jaydan said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

That would come as a shock to me, because if you did the exact same game anywhere else it wouldn't be 1/20th as popular. Not a lot of people would find a game of this type engaging on other platforms. This game is popular because of Nintendo power, period.

Are you sure of that? There just happens to not be a game franchise of this pedigree or quality on any other platform. Sure, there are brawlers out there, but none of them come up to the quality of Smash Bros.

OF COURSE Nintendo has a lot to do with the success as well, because they're the ones that created it and made it into a successful franchise in the first place, but to look at that as the only reason for its success is very shortsighted only someone that doesn't actually play the series can come up with. That to me is about as dumb as saying "the Uncharted games are only successful because of Sony - they made the games."

That would be pretty dumb because Uncharted isn't a party game made up of nostalgia-fueled characters. It's the reason Nintendo exclusives tend to tower above their third party contemporaries on their platforms, quality aside. Branding trumps all in this case. It's a game where the reveal of characters are more celebrated over the gameplay itself.

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#16 Edited by jaydan (2491 posts) -
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@jaydan said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

That would come as a shock to me, because if you did the exact same game anywhere else it wouldn't be 1/20th as popular. Not a lot of people would find a game of this type engaging on other platforms. This game is popular because of Nintendo power, period.

Are you sure of that? There just happens to not be a game franchise of this pedigree or quality on any other platform. Sure, there are brawlers out there, but none of them come up to the quality of Smash Bros.

OF COURSE Nintendo has a lot to do with the success as well, because they're the ones that created it and made it into a successful franchise in the first place, but to look at that as the only reason for its success is very shortsighted only someone that doesn't actually play the series can come up with. That to me is about as dumb as saying "the Uncharted games are only successful because of Sony - they made the games."

That would be pretty dumb because Uncharted isn't a party game made up of nostalgia-fueled characters. It's the reason Nintendo exclusives tend to tower above their third party contemporaries on their platforms, quality aside. Branding trumps all in this case. It's a game where the reveal of characters are more celebrated over the gameplay itself.

The point of my Uncharted example is it's dumb to say the parent company is responsible for the franchise's success. It does not matter what genre of game it is, that is just a dumb "no shit" moment.

I can assure you: if the gameplay for the Smash Bros. series sucked, then it would not have ever gotten as far as it has gotten.

There are a number of qualities that have made the franchise successful over the years, and YES having a crossover between iconic 1st and 3rd-party characters/worlds in the mix is a big factor, but it also has a lot to do with the fact it has solid gameplay and customization. With the amount of fighters in a roster, it is respectable just how balanced the game actually is, and that is a common issue other fighting games might confront. The sheer amount of content in each Smash Bros. game is quite baffling.

There is reason why Smash Bros. is a more successful brawler than any other brawler in the market. The appeal of it being the biggest crossover game series in the market is just tip of the iceberg. Without the gameplay and content it would have never gotten this far. Playstation All-Stars equally had a chance to being a giant crossover brawler as well, but unfortunately those ambitions ended when the gameplay was not up to satisfaction for most consumers that played the game.

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#17 Posted by Willy105 (24873 posts) -

It's a smart idea for Sony to do, but considering how the last one came out, they will probably completely botch the gameplay (just like last time), they will completely drop the ball on roster (just like last time), and be completely confused why everyone hates it and it fails (just like last time).

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#18 Posted by Archangel3371 (28553 posts) -

Well I can certainly understand why they might be making another game like that but it’s not something that I’d be interested in though. I’ll stick with Super Smash Bros.

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#19 Edited by TJDMHEM (2164 posts) -

that would be great.

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#20 Posted by SaltSlasher (1318 posts) -

Why not.

Just don't copy Smash mechanics cause they are lame.

I wouldn't do it unless they have their own brand new fighting.

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#21 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (8706 posts) -

Hopefully they can get s.kill back on board if true.

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#22 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5043 posts) -

@jaydan said:

The point of my Uncharted example is it's dumb to say the parent company is responsible for the franchise's success. It does not matter what genre of game it is, that is just a dumb "no shit" moment.

I can assure you: if the gameplay for the Smash Bros. series sucked, then it would not have ever gotten as far as it has gotten.

There are a number of qualities that have made the franchise successful over the years, and YES having a crossover between iconic 1st and 3rd-party characters/worlds in the mix is a big factor, but it also has a lot to do with the fact it has solid gameplay and customization. With the amount of fighters in a roster, it is respectable just how balanced the game actually is, and that is a common issue other fighting games might confront. The sheer amount of content in each Smash Bros. game is quite baffling.

There is reason why Smash Bros. is a more successful brawler than any other brawler in the market. The appeal of it being the biggest crossover game series in the market is just tip of the iceberg. Without the gameplay and content it would have never gotten this far. Playstation All-Stars equally had a chance to being a giant crossover brawler as well, but unfortunately those ambitions ended when the gameplay was not up to satisfaction for most consumers that played the game.

Nah. If Smash was a third party game with characters no one ever heard of, that thing would be sitting a whole 15 points lower on the Meta scale. I don't think it's any secret that Smash gets a boost from being a Nintendo wankfest. If that's what it sells on, so be it. I mean, hell, Starfox hasn't had a good game in years. That doesn't mean Nintendo fans would jump all over the next one if they made it for Switch.

Nintendo gives their diehard fans the warm and fuzzies. Out of the current platform holders, Nintendo is the gaming equivalent of a security blanket. They don't have to try as hard as the others, they just have to bring the feels.

Smash was a simple party game that people made overly complex because Nintendo kids in the 3D era didn't have access to tournament-level fighters, so they found and exploited every nuance to that one to the chagrin of the devs who didn't intend to make it a serious fighter. The very definition of "It's not a bug, it's a feature". All the mechanics that the game is sporting now initially came by accident.

It's a franchise that's sporting just about every major Nintendo character at its disposal. I mean, even if it were lackluster, it's not going to stop every Nintendo loyalist from buying it. It's kind of a teflon franchise at this point.

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#23 Posted by judaspete (3137 posts) -

I think it's good they are trying to distance themselves from Smash Bros this time (and I personally prefer my arena brawlers in 3D). However, I think part of the problem is most Sony franchises take themselves really seriously, and that doesn't translate well to goofy fan service. Having Ellie take a break from mercy killings to throw down with Parapa the Rapa is bound to create a certain amount of cognitive dissonance.

If it's fun I'll play it, but this just isn't the type of thing your typical Sony fan is looking for.

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#24 Edited by mandzilla (4195 posts) -

Wouldn't be surprised if Masahiro Sakurai appears on one of Sony's future State of Play directs, confirming Waluigi for Playstation All-Stars Battle Royal 2 to further troll the Smash fans who keep asking for him.

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#25 Posted by judaspete (3137 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:
@jaydan said:

The point of my Uncharted example is it's dumb to say the parent company is responsible for the franchise's success. It does not matter what genre of game it is, that is just a dumb "no shit" moment.

I can assure you: if the gameplay for the Smash Bros. series sucked, then it would not have ever gotten as far as it has gotten.

There are a number of qualities that have made the franchise successful over the years, and YES having a crossover between iconic 1st and 3rd-party characters/worlds in the mix is a big factor, but it also has a lot to do with the fact it has solid gameplay and customization. With the amount of fighters in a roster, it is respectable just how balanced the game actually is, and that is a common issue other fighting games might confront. The sheer amount of content in each Smash Bros. game is quite baffling.

There is reason why Smash Bros. is a more successful brawler than any other brawler in the market. The appeal of it being the biggest crossover game series in the market is just tip of the iceberg. Without the gameplay and content it would have never gotten this far. Playstation All-Stars equally had a chance to being a giant crossover brawler as well, but unfortunately those ambitions ended when the gameplay was not up to satisfaction for most consumers that played the game.

Nah. If Smash was a third party game with characters no one ever heard of, that thing would be sitting a whole 15 points lower on the Meta scale. I don't think it's any secret that Smash gets a boost from being a Nintendo wankfest. If that's what it sells on, so be it. I mean, hell, Starfox hasn't had a good game in years. That doesn't mean Nintendo fans would jump all over the next one if they made it for Switch.

Nintendo gives their diehard fans the warm and fuzzies. Out of the current platform holders, Nintendo is the gaming equivalent of a security blanket. They don't have to try as hard as the others, they just have to bring the feels.

Smash was a simple party game that people made overly complex because Nintendo kids in the 3D era didn't have access to tournament-level fighters, so they found and exploited every nuance to that one to the chagrin of the devs who didn't intend to make it a serious fighter. The very definition of "It's not a bug, it's a feature". All the mechanics that the game is sporting now initially came by accident.

It's a franchise that's sporting just about every major Nintendo character at its disposal. I mean, even if it were lackluster, it's not going to stop every Nintendo loyalist from buying it. It's kind of a teflon franchise at this point.

I think you made a grammatical error here and are trying to say Nintedo fans will buy Starfox no matter what. If that is the case, I just want to point out that Starfox Zero bombed.

Also, Powerstone 2 is a similar game to Smash that has a meta score of 87%. Which is only 5 or 6 points lower depending which entry you compare it with :).

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#26 Posted by Subspecies (740 posts) -

Um, no.

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#27 Posted by Planeforger (18105 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Nintendo gives their diehard fans the warm and fuzzies. Out of the current platform holders, Nintendo is the gaming equivalent of a security blanket. They don't have to try as hard as the others, they just have to bring the feels.

The irony here is that Sony has played it safe all gen with its identical sequels and extremely narrow formula for its major titles. They're way too scared to do a BOTW-esque reinvention of one of their major IPs - not when they know Sony fans will simply buy another identical Uncharted or Last of Us game.

As for not having to try as hard as others, that's odd, because Nintendo keep churning out excellent games. For example, Fire Emblem Three Houses is loaded with well over 150 hours of content, where it could have easily been 50 hours and people wouldn't have complained.

As for Smash Bros Ultimate, it doesn't just play on Nintendo nostalgia - the game is a love letter to gaming in general. It is jam-packed with references and characters from tons of non-Nintendo franchises, and it treats them with as much love and respect as they give their own IPs. The Persona 5 DLC is a perfect example - it is a top-quality product that ultimately advertises a Playstation franchise, and yet you can tell a ton of time went into designing every aspect of the DLC.

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#28 Edited by watercrack445 (1843 posts) -

I don't know what this is and never heard of the first PlayStation All-Star game.

This is like trying to sell me crack.

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#29 Posted by AJStyles (1091 posts) -

Dissidia SUCKS.

Powerstone is awesome.

I have no idea what to think right now LOL

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#30 Posted by MclarenMaster18 (1713 posts) -

I never really liked the first game so I'm not looking forward to see the sequel.

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#31 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5043 posts) -

@judaspete said:

I think you made a grammatical error here and are trying to say Nintedo fans will buy Starfox no matter what. If that is the case, I just want to point out that Starfox Zero bombed.

Also, Powerstone 2 is a similar game to Smash that has a meta score of 87%. Which is only 5 or 6 points lower depending which entry you compare it with :).

I think you're correct. I did make a mistake there.

Also, Powerstone isn't even in the same stratosphere as Smash when it comes to sales. It will forever remain just a cult favorite. Now, take that same game, put some Nintendo characters and some Nintendo-themed levels in it, and watch it sell millions.

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#32 Posted by jeezers (3287 posts) -

I know the first one was trash, especially how you could only kill someone with a special move.

Hated that pos game

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#33 Posted by WitIsWisdom (5370 posts) -

Tomb Raider.. as in Lara Croft? Anyways though.. meh.

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#34 Posted by flashn00b (3634 posts) -

If there's one thing that PSASBR did right, it's the whole "Worlds Collide" thing. Didn't the Uncharted stage have elements of Bioshock, while Hades had Patapon?

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#35 Posted by robert_sparkes (3315 posts) -

There's lots of interesting options with the stages but also with characters. Spider-Man possibly up against Kratos and Nathan drake. It needs to be handled better than the previous game.

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#36 Edited by Telekill (8594 posts) -

That wasn't a full priced game for me. Maybe after a price drop but not at full price. Plus it has to be more fun than the last one.

Additions of Lara Croft, Jill Valentine and potentially Chris Redfield would be welcome.

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#37 Posted by shellcase86 (4528 posts) -

This would be most awesome and certainly welcomed.

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#38 Posted by judaspete (3137 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin: Oh I totally agree on sales. I was just pointing out that critics gave Power Stone 2 a score that was not that far off from the scores they gave Smash. And that game had 5 stages.

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#39 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2522 posts) -

Flop or not this type of game with Kratos, Aloy, and Cloud would be epic. I can already see the epic crossover battles. First game is not that good, though. I'll admit that.

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#40 Posted by dagubot (1384 posts) -

Why?