Rumor: Chinese factory worker leaks Nintendo Switch Specs

  • 139 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#1 Edited by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

From the Nintendo Switch Reddit Take it with a grain of salt people

TL;DR version

  • The Tegra SoC is a custom X2 with Pascal
  • TSMC is being used 16 nm FinFet, clocked at 1.7 Ghz
  • 2 models, one regular, the other w/4G LTE?
  • ARM CPU using A73, the latest version
  • GPU clocked at 921 Mhz
  • Using special heat pipes, making the tablet run cooler in your hands
  • Using a quiet fan, noise not noticable after testing an aquarium with rendering 1,000 fish for an entire day
  • Using 4310 mah Battery, at least estimate 3.7 to 5 hours of battery power.
  • 4 GB of RAM
  • Tablet should be at least 300 grams (~0.7 lbs)
  • Joy Con's include built-in batteries inside at least 525mah
  • Dev kit image also leaked

Dock: * There's no advanced technology in the dock, it seems pretty cheap and light, feels really plastic, no extra power, it just a output * 1x USB3.0, 1x hdmi, on the side 2xUSB2.0 on the dock * There's no fan on the dock, but hole on the back of the dock to allow air absorbing then out from the console's top vent

Console: * Looking at the screen it looks like is 1080p multi-touch screen, according to the spec show up on the software test *Can see the 5x0.8cm heat sink from the vent on the 0.8cm width, 12cm L shape heat pipe, looks quite shabby but heat performance is really good, not too hot from the console, the software demo testing is millions of fish and running almost 8 days, there's no single frames drops *The screen is not very bright, speculated can't see clear from outdoor *Looking at the core, it's a 10x10 core, from the test, CPU 1785mhz, GPU 921mhz, EMC 1600mhz *Speculated CPU is arm A73 pascal, much powerful than X1, when tested it only shows ARM_V8 structure hence the speculation *Confirmed it's USB-C charging *Speculated the core is made by TSMC, but it doesn't have its logo on it, looking really good *Running thousands of fish software demo to make sure the system is running fine *Saw orange and blue controller *Heating fan noise is not loud *Power adapter is external *There's 4G console version, confirmed *Can be charged while playing *Battery 4310mA, 3.7 not changable *It's been testing over 11750min, it's all running stably and smoothly, not single frame drops using the software demo (fish) *Speculated 2x ram = 4GB *About 300g weight, thought it was 1000g or something and was pretty surprise it's 300g console only (excluding joycon etc), used digital scale to weigh

Joy-con: *There's 2 shoulder button on each joy-con, they are called SL, SR *It's very complex inside, apart from the motherboard in the console, screen, Joy-con is the most valuable in the whole system *The battery inside Joy-con is about 5cm x 2cm x 0.5cm *Very light, about 50g * (22 Nov update) Battery 525mA

Production:*Produced 2100 units per day in one line, the whole factory can produce 20000per day *Very good quality control, don't worry about the build quality *They shipped to Japan, and Australia recently

Advance version or Devkit version? *A much powerful version, producing 2000x units for now *The core is 1x times bigger than the one above,200m㎡, looking it looks like 12x18 *2 extra ram, this version is 8GB *2x wifi, 1hdmi, 1x mini dp, 1x ethernet, 2x unidentified socket, 3x network led indicator, *Looks much more complex than the normal version, 6, 7 extra unidentified storage, different socket *Not sure if this is Devkit, or it's an advanced version, not sure if Nintendo will release it (22 Nov 2016 update) Confirmed it's a devkit, and Nintendo was coming to exam the devkit today *No dock for this version for now *Can be plugged into TV without docking, power is inside *Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro *Screen is the same size as the normal one *It's much more powerful, but also much heavier, not feeling great in hand, speculated for 4K gaming *Haven't seen such a huge core, and it's 16nm + 100mm2 main core *There's no battery inside this version

Avatar image for KungfuKitten
#2 Edited by KungfuKitten (25473 posts) -

Pretty impressive if at all true. I don't understand the specs, but I think that would be the best we could have hoped for given the things we know?

Battery will be an issue no matter what they'll do. There's no way to solve that. Maybe take a powerbank with you if you want to play the Switch on the go for a day or more. I wonder if something like that would work.

I guess if you have easy access to the battery, you could buy a spare one.

Avatar image for kend0_kap0ni
#3 Edited by KEND0_KAP0NI (1231 posts) -

its basically two gamecubes ducked taped together

(old school System Warriors will understand that reference)

Avatar image for davillain-
#4 Edited by DaVillain- (30179 posts) -

This was obvious already with the Tegra X1. GPU is DX11/12/Vulkan class, same as PS4/Xbone GPU. The deciding factor will be if the CPU will be strong enough and if the amount of RAM for gaming is enough. ARM vs x86 by itself doesn't matter, ARM is well known. What's important now is that the Switch sells and 3rd parties let go of their prejudices against Nintendo platforms, but it looks like the hardware itself will not be a problem when it comes to 3rd party multiplatform games.

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#5 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@davillain- said:

This was obvious already with the Tegra X1. GPU is DX11/12/Vulkan class, same as PS4/Xbone GPU. The deciding factor will be if the CPU will be strong enough and if the amount of RAM for gaming is enough. ARM vs x86 by itself doesn't matter, ARM is well known. What's important now is that the Switch sells and 3rd parties let go of their prejudices against Nintendo platforms, but it looks like the hardware itself will not be a problem when it comes to 3rd party multiplatform games.

I doubt it's a Tegra X1, they are stating it will run Pascal, and that is the X2.

Avatar image for MonsieurX
#6 Edited by MonsieurX (37632 posts) -

USB 2.0...?

*facepalm*

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#7 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

USB 2.0...?

*facepalm*

Yeah, I was disappointed seeing that. But at least the Tablet does support USB Type-C

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
#8 Posted by foxhound_fox (97172 posts) -

If it runs the Skyrim: Special Edition at a playable framerate for $249 USD, I'll be more than happy (spec-wise, not for Skyrim).

Avatar image for superbuuman
#9 Edited by superbuuman (6205 posts) -

Erm so is there 2 version or 2 systems Nintendo is launching?..

Avatar image for davillain-
#10 Posted by DaVillain- (30179 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@davillain- said:

This was obvious already with the Tegra X1. GPU is DX11/12/Vulkan class, same as PS4/Xbone GPU. The deciding factor will be if the CPU will be strong enough and if the amount of RAM for gaming is enough. ARM vs x86 by itself doesn't matter, ARM is well known. What's important now is that the Switch sells and 3rd parties let go of their prejudices against Nintendo platforms, but it looks like the hardware itself will not be a problem when it comes to 3rd party multiplatform games.

I doubt it's a Tegra X1, they are stating it will run Pascal, and that is the X2.

Guess you got a good point there. The X2 runs cheaper than X1 in that it costs less to manufacture over time. Manufacturing X1 would cost a lot down the road. So either Nintendo would have to go for X2 or a custom Tegra that is at least more powerful than the X1.

Avatar image for svaubel
#11 Posted by svaubel (3932 posts) -

Pretty impressive- for a tablet- if true.

I'm rather looking forward to the Shield Tablet 2 presented by Nintendo.

Avatar image for sonic_spark
#12 Posted by sonic_spark (5614 posts) -

Very exciting if true.

I also like the idea of a 4k version. I would gladly pay for that upgrade.

Avatar image for lamprey263
#13 Posted by lamprey263 (35421 posts) -

"we reek Nintendo"

Avatar image for StrongBlackVine
#14 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

@sonic_spark said:

Very exciting if true.

I also like the idea of a 4k version. I would gladly pay for that upgrade.

doubt it.

Avatar image for FinalFighters
#15 Posted by FinalFighters (2782 posts) -

2 models, one regular the other with 4G LTE? Hmmmm

Avatar image for Pedro
#16 Posted by Pedro (30890 posts) -

The fastest handheld but the weakest home console. Sounds great. :|

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#17 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

Snapdragon 820/820A ranges from 407.4 to 498.5 GFLOPS

Snapdragon 821's GPU has about 519.2 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@davillain- said:

This was obvious already with the Tegra X1. GPU is DX11/12/Vulkan class, same as PS4/Xbone GPU. The deciding factor will be if the CPU will be strong enough and if the amount of RAM for gaming is enough. ARM vs x86 by itself doesn't matter, ARM is well known. What's important now is that the Switch sells and 3rd parties let go of their prejudices against Nintendo platforms, but it looks like the hardware itself will not be a problem when it comes to 3rd party multiplatform games.

I doubt it's a Tegra X1, they are stating it will run Pascal, and that is the X2.

Lesser Pascal's SM design is very similar to Maxwell's SM design.

Unlike Pascal desktop PC version, Tegra X1 already has double rate 16bit FP feature.

PS4 Pro also has double rate 16bit FP feature with 8.4 TFLOPS.

Avatar image for PSP107
#18 Posted by PSP107 (17054 posts) -

@FinalFighters: "one regular the other with 4G LTE? Hmmmm"

Whats the point in that?

Avatar image for deactivated-583e460ca986b
#19 Edited by deactivated-583e460ca986b (7240 posts) -

Well we would need an LTE version if we want to play online games in the go. We can't get wifi everywhere.

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#20 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

What was Emily Roger's leak?

Avatar image for FinalFighters
#21 Posted by FinalFighters (2782 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@FinalFighters: "one regular the other with 4G LTE? Hmmmm"

Whats the point in that?

Remember when the Vita first launched and there were 2 models - one regular and one with 3G..

it reminds me of that lol

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#22 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

What was Emily Roger's leak?

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET.

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#23 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

What was Emily Roger's leak?

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

Avatar image for PSP107
#24 Posted by PSP107 (17054 posts) -

@FinalFighters: "Remember when the Vita first launched and there were 2 models - one regular and one with 3G.."

I remember that and lol@ at people who bought version.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#25 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

What was Emily Roger's leak?

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#26 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

I never think of having desktop graded graphics, Nintendo games were always about making games to enjoy with whatever tools you have. Just saying that it's impressive that Bethesda managed to port Skyrim to a tiny handheld.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#27 Posted by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

I never think of having desktop graded graphics, Nintendo games were always about making games to enjoy with whatever tools you have. Just saying that it's impressive that Bethesda managed to port Skyrim to a tiny handheld.

Skyrim runs on Xbox 360 level hardware... Shield TV roughly matches Xbox 360

Avatar image for svaubel
#28 Posted by svaubel (3932 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

256 CUDA cores at 921 Mhz yields about 471 GFLOPS 32bit FP.

Emily Rogers's leak matches NX/Switch being under XBO.

What was Emily Roger's leak?

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

What world are you living in? No one expected to get desktop/console level graphics from a tablet.

Nintendo excels at the 'have fun play games' mantra. Which is what gaming used to be about before it was all about counting pixels.

Avatar image for iandizion713
#29 Posted by iandizion713 (16025 posts) -

Sounds like an amazing device that can be used on the go. I cant wait.

Avatar image for GameboyTroy
#30 Posted by GameboyTroy (9000 posts) -

Whatever. You like it? You buy it.

Avatar image for FireEmblem_Man
#31 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (18051 posts) -

@GameboyTroy said:

Whatever. You like it? You buy it.

I thought you liked it?

Avatar image for wiiboxstation
#32 Posted by Wiiboxstation (1311 posts) -

@ronvalencia: what Nintendo fanboys are they sir?

As a sheep I don't care about graphics. I care about gameplay which is what Nintendo gives me.

Avatar image for GameboyTroy
#33 Posted by GameboyTroy (9000 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@GameboyTroy said:

Whatever. You like it? You buy it.

I thought you liked it?

You have misread what I've said or mistaken me with someone else.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#34 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@wiiboxstation said:

@ronvalencia: what Nintendo fanboys are they sir?

As a sheep I don't care about graphics. I care about gameplay which is what Nintendo gives me.

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/69783/20160206/nintendo-nx-rumor-specs-features-ps4-xbox-one-2016.htm

Nintendo NX: 5 Rumored Specs And Features That Can Destroy PS4 And Xbox One In 2016

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/10/16/nintendos-nx-wants-to-leapfrog-xbox-one-and-ps4-with-industry-leading-tech/#496bd1331d2d

Avatar image for scatteh316
#35 Posted by scatteh316 (8810 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

I said the system was struggling to even reach Xbox One levels of power.

Switch is effectively a mobile phone chipset from NVIDIA.

TC's "Speculated provided the core is only include GPU, it would be even more powerful than PS4 pro" assertion is a load of BS.

PS4 Pro's GPU core is about Polaris 10's 232 mm^2 size in TSMC's 16 nm FinFET

I got it from a reddit, and so I'm just taking the info with a grain of salt

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

I never think of having desktop graded graphics, Nintendo games were always about making games to enjoy with whatever tools you have. Just saying that it's impressive that Bethesda managed to port Skyrim to a tiny handheld.

Skyrim runs on Xbox 360 level hardware... Shield TV roughly matches Xbox 360

Shield has no where near the bandwidth as 360 though.

Avatar image for scatteh316
#36 Edited by scatteh316 (8810 posts) -

Nintendo have quite possibly made the most bandwidth starved console in history.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#37 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@ronvalencia said:

I still don't get Nintendo fanboys' for thinking Switch will deliver current gen desktop level game consoles from a mobile phone chipset.

I never think of having desktop graded graphics, Nintendo games were always about making games to enjoy with whatever tools you have. Just saying that it's impressive that Bethesda managed to port Skyrim to a tiny handheld.

Skyrim runs on Xbox 360 level hardware... Shield TV roughly matches Xbox 360

Shield has no where near the bandwidth as 360 though.

From Shield TV's GPU point of view, it has about half of Xbox 360's memory bandwidth.

Xbox 360: 22.4/s + 32 GB/s = 54 GB/s The connection from GPU to EDRAM is 32 GB/s.

Shield TV: 25 GB/s

Loading Video...

Shield TV has the advantage in ALU bound situation over Xbox 360.

Switch is a good replacement for New 3DS.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 821 chipset is also memory bandwidth bound.

Shield TV is enough for Xbox 360 games e.g. recent Rise of Tomb Raider Xbox 360 would be OK on Shield TV.

Loading Video...

Switch should be able to deliver Forza 4 level graphics if they have the software team to create it.

Avatar image for Chutebox
#38 Posted by Chutebox (43766 posts) -

@svaubel: Graphics have always been a huge selling point, even with Nintendo console back in the day.

Avatar image for iandizion713
#39 Posted by iandizion713 (16025 posts) -

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#40 Edited by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@iandizion713 said:

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

PS2 has the larger install base+DVD video player and Xbox has the hardware power, hence Gamecube was caught in the middle.

PS4/PS4 Pro is heading for PS2 level install base with reasonable hardware power.

Scorpio's approach is the original Xbox i.e. strongest game console hardware with PS2's video player approach but for UHD Blu-ray player.

.

Switch.... it's a handheld gaming device and my smart phone can play games.... what else for Switch besides it's first party games...

Both PS4 Slim and Xbox One S can counter Switch's price war. Xbox One S doubles as UHD Blu-ray player...

Avatar image for jhonMalcovich
#41 Edited by jhonMalcovich (7090 posts) -

For a handheld, really good specs. But regarding mobile/handheld gaming, I still prefer my gaming laptop GS63VR. It weighs only 1.7 kg but has 15'' screen, gtx1060 and I7 inside. Can play games having it on my stomach, which is actually more comfortable than having 300 gr device in one's hands for hours. The only downside, my laptop costed me a kidney lol. 2500USD to be more precise O_O Everytime I think how I much I paid for it I shudder XD

Avatar image for iandizion713
#42 Edited by iandizion713 (16025 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

PS2 has the larger install base+DVD video player and Xbox has the hardware power, hence Gamecube was caught in the middle.

PS4/PS4 Pro is heading for PS2 level install base with reasonable hardware power.

Scorpio's approach is the original Xbox i.e. strongest game console hardware with PS2's video player approach but for UHD Blu-ray player.

.

Still not a major selling point for Nintendo. Nintendo has always been in their own world when it comes to consoles. Its all about having fun and offering fresh new experiences.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#43 Posted by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@iandizion713 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

PS2 has the larger install base+DVD video player and Xbox has the hardware power, hence Gamecube was caught in the middle.

PS4/PS4 Pro is heading for PS2 level install base with reasonable hardware power.

Scorpio's approach is the original Xbox i.e. strongest game console hardware with PS2's video player approach but for UHD Blu-ray player.

.

Still not a major selling point for Nintendo.

Nintendo's approach is to market their device to hard core and Nintendo first party gamers with mobility requirements, but my smart phone can connect to airlines' on-board-wifi and run their video on demand playback app on top of playing games...

Avatar image for osan0
#44 Posted by osan0 (15090 posts) -

its plausible. i will give it that.

i find it hard to believe nintendo will have a 4G version though. i suspect there is only going to be one spec. though maybe nintendo are planning a smaller phone version down the line. switch mobile confirmed!

i thought the screen is confirmed to be 720P though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-27-nintendo-switch-has-a-6-2-multi-touch-screen

hardware wise it looks roughy as i suspected. 2X the wiiu....maybe a bit less.

Avatar image for iandizion713
#45 Edited by iandizion713 (16025 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

PS2 has the larger install base+DVD video player and Xbox has the hardware power, hence Gamecube was caught in the middle.

PS4/PS4 Pro is heading for PS2 level install base with reasonable hardware power.

Scorpio's approach is the original Xbox i.e. strongest game console hardware with PS2's video player approach but for UHD Blu-ray player.

.

Still not a major selling point for Nintendo.

Nintendo's approach is to market their device to hard core and Nintendo first party gamers with mobility requirements, but my smart phone can connect to airlines' on-board-wifi and run their video on demand playback app on top of playing games...

Your smartphone has no physical buttons. Its weak gameplay. The experience gets boring fast. It also lacks innovation. Ive had smartphones for years, still same stuff, no freshness.

Plus, i dont use my phone for games, i use to for other stuff. Maybe ill play Mario Run though, it looks fun.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#46 Posted by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@iandizion713 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:
@ronvalencia said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Chutebox: Gamecube was powerful but didnt sell good.

PS2 has the larger install base+DVD video player and Xbox has the hardware power, hence Gamecube was caught in the middle.

PS4/PS4 Pro is heading for PS2 level install base with reasonable hardware power.

Scorpio's approach is the original Xbox i.e. strongest game console hardware with PS2's video player approach but for UHD Blu-ray player.

.

Still not a major selling point for Nintendo.

Nintendo's approach is to market their device to hard core and Nintendo first party gamers with mobility requirements, but my smart phone can connect to airlines' on-board-wifi and run their video on demand playback app on top of playing games...

Your smart phone has no physical buttons. Its weak gameplay. The experience gets boring fast.

Physical buttons doesn't make any large difference for casual mobile gamer e.g. QUALCOMM Vulkan capable smart phones destroys 3DS in unit sales.

Avatar image for iandizion713
#47 Edited by iandizion713 (16025 posts) -

@ronvalencia: I dont play those casual games though, so im good. I use my Iphone for other stuff.

Avatar image for ronvalencia
#48 Posted by ronvalencia (26060 posts) -

@iandizion713 said:

@ronvalencia: I dont play those casual games though, so im good. I use my Iphone for other stuff.

Nintendo's approach is to market their device to hard core and Nintendo first party gamers with mobility requirements, but my smart phone can connect to airlines' on-board-wifi and run their video on demand playback app on top of playing games...

Avatar image for Ghost120x
#49 Posted by Ghost120x (5282 posts) -

Looking good. I hope it sells to show Sony how they handled the vita was a mistake.

Avatar image for Chutebox
#50 Edited by Chutebox (43766 posts) -

@iandizion713: ok. What I was saying was companies have always uses graphics capabilities as a major selling point.