RIP - Crackdown 3 - Not looking good

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2018/6/20/17483492/crackdown-3-microsoft-developer-reagent-games

"Booty also confirmed that Microsoft is no longer working with Jones or Reagent Games on Crackdown 3. “We’re just working with Sumo [Digital] right now,” said Booty. “That’s our main development partner. And as you know, I’m sure you know, any game has got a number of folks that come in to help us with content and some development, but Sumo’s our main ... Sumo is our main partner on Crackdown.”"

Seems like Crackdown 3 is in pretty rough shape which isn't a surprise. Microsoft really needs to get their head out of their asses and whip their first party studios into shape. Nintendo and Sony are killing them in this department and it is not a good look for Microsoft after the lack luster releases of Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2. I will be very surprised now if this game ever makes it to the market, but I think that was pretty much a given. Only time will tell!

MS has its own cloud team and acquired playfab which specializes in the field, so going to assume they'll be assisting with moving from Dave Jones company to MS in house.

This is most lilekly the reason Crackdown 3 is taking so long after Epic made the purchase, MS had to adapt.

Finally, both reagent and sumo are both independent, MS is just the publisher.

Lol it sounds like this game is crowdfunded.

This series just plain sucks! Why do they keep making them?

Wasn't this game supposed to use some Cloud technology?

It's always been an overrated series. But Lems prop it up as a major exclusive

Yeah I saw that, what a mess

Looks like they're stealthily trying to distance themselves from responsibility after making lofty promises during the games announcement.

What happened to MS's E3 boasts about correcting the ship and fully funding their projects from here on out?

Or is Crackdown 3 just too far gone so they are just like F*ck it?

Bad news...why did they show it at e3 then

Yeesh! After that E3 this is not the way to start the parade.

But but but @Pedro told me it has a release month...

@Xabiss: This isn't really a first party game... it's second party.

And who knows why the original creators aren't involved anymore. Could be a bunch of reasons... but I (and most people) were never expecting much from C3. It'll be a 6/10 type game at best.

But I'm sure MS will be glad to see the back of it and they can move onto better games.

@hrt_rulz01: lowered expectations....

(Remember mad tv?)

That’s the kinda attitude you need with Xbone lol

Did you still have confidence that the game would turn out to be anything other than shit? It has been at 5 E3's in a row and still looks bad. If it wasn't exclusive it would get as much hype as Agents of Mayhem got because it looks equally bad.

I kept saying MS’ E3 was smoke and mirrors and lems wouldn’t believe me. If the game was such a disaster why did MS bother showing it and even announced a release month?

They probably just want to release it and be done with it now. They know it's gonna bomb. They're also sending it to die in Q1 going up against RE2, KH3, Anthem, Metro, Days Gone so people won't even noticed it released while playing those other games. Actually smart of MS.

That’s horrible, and people want me to believe MS is changing? They haven’t changed one bit and I feel sorry for these new studios they just bought.

Same reason they showed Scalebound announcing it will be out 2017 at E316 before they cancelled it.

To buff the anemic looking lineup and to convince someone thinking of leaving the xbox ecosystem to have faith and hold on a little longer and give them 1 more XBL subscription.

Is it not possible that Cloudgine and Reagent Games finished their work on the project and are just no longer needed?

About as possible as Phil Spencer's claim that cancelling Scalebound was good for xbox fans...

Now the Xbox Fanatics were not expecting much from Crackhead 3. I'm sorry, but I expect a lot from all developers of AAA gaming.

Well that sounds a bit troubling. I’m still hoping that the game turns out to be good however if it doesn’t I’m really not going to lose any sleep over it.

What a nightmare this has been for MS Studios.

Lmao... you're so damn salty that MS won E3, aren't you?!

I actually agree... Phil & Co will know that it isn't going to be great (that's why a part of me just wanted them to cancel it - but that would've generated too many bad headlines).

They just need to polish it up a bit and release it and be done with it. Hopefully they break even on it at least.

I don't understand the bad part of this ? Someone tell how this has any negative impact on the game?

"We acquired five new studios! And we're going to fucking RUIN them!"

You act as if it doesn't. LMAO. I am also glad that I am always your mind. :)

Please kill this game and move on.

Sony just has better studios.

Really this isn't very hard to understand, Dave Jones and his new company Cloudgine, which provided a cloud computing service to help power in-game destruction was purchased by Epic. MS could not use that service and had to start over using a different service and tools.

They deserve any backlash they get on Crackdown 3. Cloudgine was bought by EA so they lost any partners they had from them on this and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

As for get their first party studios into shape, Sumo isn't first party, and they just doubled in size. I'm not worried. And acting like anybody expected great AAA franchises outside of their core ones in the immediate future is self dishonesty.

TBH iv always thought that this series sucked, im surprised it even made it to 2 let alone 3.

I guess I missed this. We'll see but I haven't had bigger than Crackdown 2 hopes for this for a while.

But you're right. Going on about their first party and using two independent studios as proof is stupid.

None of the previews for Days Gone are positive though...

I don't really understand who even wants another Crackdown.

Ah there is some potential in there. At least, that's how I felt about the first entry in the series. I'm not sure if Crackdown 3 will realize that potential. I'll admit that the footage so far hasn't really grabbed me. It's tough too because sandbox games have become more and more prevalent since the inception of Crackdown. They're competing in an already saturated and dominating space.

But maybe, who knows? Perhaps the co-op play will offer something fun here. Especially if you can chain together some pretty wild, destructive and emergent moments.

I do. I thought CD1 was great fun.

Yeah, bold part is basically what I meant. I kind of think this game wont be successful whatever they do with it. But who knows. I'm speaking as a dude who've never played any of the Crackdowns.. I'm all for fun games though, so I hope for the best.

ya, the last gameplay i saw is another step in meh land, looks like a horde simulator.

@flawlesspoop: Shame because I was expecting a lot from that game.

This is why you can't have nice things. :P

Well it also did on 2017..lol

Always :)

Wait wait didn't crackdown 3 used the power of MS cloud? How come now it is cloudgine another company and not MS own cloud azure which is what was advertised long time ago.?

Did i miss something here? Crackdown 3 was advertise as using MS cloud that was 20 times more powerful than the xbox one,how come it uses another cloud.

I remember being pretty enamored by the first Crackdown game. At the time, I hadn't played as many sandbox games that gave you the super-human abilities and freedom as Crackdown; the ability to sprint at high speeds and leap extremely high was fun, and you could tackle any of the bosses in whichever order you pleased. it was a pretty open game. But now you have inFamous, Just Cause, Spiderman and Saints Row which offer similar freedom, vertical gameplay and super human abilities so it's a pretty tough market to make an impression.

For the most parts, Crackdown 3 at the time was supposed to be part of the always online game DRM before MS had to pull the plug on DRM, it hurt Crackdown 3 due to all the revamping it had to go and to make matters worst, MS underestimate the power of the (so called) Cloud meaning it has it's limits on the console hardware itself. Overall, Crackdown 3 suffer many core changes in the development and adding Terry Crews to the last minute was a smart move but not much to go on until it really releases how far has the game come.

At any case, I'll be playing Crackdown 3 on PC through Game Pass cause I ain't paying full price on this multiple delayed game.

@R4gn4r0k:

me too.

Wonder why Microsoft didn't buy the company, I just assumed the people making Crackdown were owned by MS the way there were hyping the shit out of it.

So now MS only owns the game in name only, what a mess. I guess MS really did something to EPIC games to piss them off, pulling out of making Gears, then buying all the tech from the company making CD3, then stealing the main developers and ceasing development. Harsh.

I doubt this is a big deal breaker for the game. IIRC MS has their OWN cloud engine. However... This is why MS needs to STOP depending on third party devs to make their games because we get messes like this.

Yep, Bungie, EPIC and Remedy have really come back to **** MS in the arse recently.

@ten_pints:

Never seen any bad blood between MS and Remedy.

@R4gn4r0k: Sig bet that Days Gone scores better than Crackdown 3?