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"It’s not the official position of the company but just a personal opinion: if you look at it as a gamer, Xbox One is focused on America’s vision of the entertainment center with the TV and the like. It gives the impression is that gmes aren’t its highest priority.

On the other hand for the PS4 games come first, then there are other forms of entertainment. Because of how they’re promoting it, I think the PS4 looks more attractive when viewed by true core gamers, isn’t it?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/10/23/resoguns-de-benetti-games-arent-xbox-ones-priority-ps4-more-attractive-for-true-gamers/

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#2  Edited By danabo
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Weird that the launch line-up on the One looks far superior. Still, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, TV, TV, Sports.

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#3  Edited By StormyJoe
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@PSP107 said:

"It’s not the official position of the company but just a personal opinion: if you look at it as a gamer, Xbox One is focused on America’s vision of the entertainment center with the TV and the like. It gives the impression is that gmes aren’t its highest priority.

On the other hand for the PS4 games come first, then there are other forms of entertainment. Because of how they’re promoting it, I think the PS4 looks more attractive when viewed by true core gamers, isn’t it?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/10/23/resoguns-de-benetti-games-arent-xbox-ones-priority-ps4-more-attractive-for-true-gamers/

Honestly, I tink that is true. But, I wouldn't say "true gamer should get a PS4". I would say

"For $100 more, is it worth it to you to have a device that is more than a gaming console?"

I think the answer to that question will separate XB1 owners from PS4 owners.

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I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

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#5  Edited By bobbetybob
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It's true as far as advertising goes but is that a bad thing? Gaming is a lot bigger than just "core gamers" now and if you're asking people to spend 400-500 dollars on a console that appears to just play games that's not going to be as appealing to a lot of people.

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Really?

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His argument might hold a little more weight if the PS4's game line up wasn't a wasteland of nothingness...

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@danabo said:

Weird that the launch line-up on the One looks far superior. Still, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, TV, TV, Sports.

You gotta get those people to buy you console first, then you once again put majority of your first party studios to making kinect games. Story of 360. I wouldnt trust microsoft.

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#9  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

They may have it right for the next few years. But you look at the quality of games coming on tablets it wont be long before they surpass PS4 and Xbox One. Both PS4 and Xbox One will need to diversify in the 2nd have their lifespan. Xbox One is doing it early and while it doesn't go down well with core gamers (me included to some extent) as long as the get a decent number of decent games all the extra's its providing make a great overall package. But this wont be appreciated for a few years to come.

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#10  Edited By danabo
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@Nohtnym said:
@danabo said:

Weird that the launch line-up on the One looks far superior. Still, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, TV, TV, Sports.

You gotta get those people to buy you console first, then you once again put majority of your first party studios to making kinect games. Story of 360. I wouldnt trust microsoft.

The 360s exclusive line-up was superior for what? Three years+ and then there was the superior multi-plats throughout the entire lifespan. If I was judging by last gen, I would go with MS.

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Not to me.

If Sonys idea of a console for the core gamer is one filled with indie crap, then no thanks. Maybe the majority of the core fanbase likes those 1 hour experiences, but I don't.

So far the XOne destroys the PS4 in games.

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It's not exactly like Microsoft's made it a secret that TV, TV, sports, sports, US, sports, America, TV is a big focus. I'd say that and games are about as big priorities at this point. With that status being subject to change.

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#14  Edited By always_explicit
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His argument doesnt hold any weight. Everybody and their mother knows any console with the XBOX name is a games console MS dont need to sell that to people..its not a new concept. The difference being the X1 is a games console that incorporates all of your living room entertainment into one device THAT is the concept MS needs to sell to people.

Dude sounds like another elitist idiot with this core gamer nonsense. When the industry can define what a core gamer is maybe il buy in to the idea that the term actually means something. Until then to me it just means "vocal minority who think their opinion is more valid than someone elses because they play "a lot of video games". Screw that.

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#15  Edited By deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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@bobbetybob said:

It's true as far as advertising goes but is that a bad thing? Gaming is a lot bigger than just "core gamers" now and if you're asking people to spend 400-500 dollars on a console that appears to just play games that's not going to be as appealing to a lot of people.

It's not hip to be square? That's cool. For me that makes it worth less though.

Christian Bale does a wicked Jim Carrey.

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#16  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@danabo said:

Weird that the launch line-up on the One looks far superior. Still, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, TV, TV, Sports.

Dat subjective opinion. I have a TV. I don't need to blow more money for the Xone to go with it.

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#17  Edited By deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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@tdkmillsy said:

@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

They may have it right for the next few years. But you look at the quality of games coming on tablets it wont be long before they surpass PS4 and Xbox One. Both PS4 and Xbox One will need to diversify in the 2nd have their lifespan. Xbox One is doing it early and while it doesn't go down well with core gamers (me included to some extent) as long as the get a decent number of decent games all the extra's its providing make a great overall package. But this wont be appreciated for a few years to come.

As long as touchscreens don't have buttons, sticks or triggers, they'll never surpass consoles. Limited controls = limited games.
I blame Apple for their form > function designs. Changing songs on an ipod has become totally stupid and annoying. And needlessly dangerous, as you have to look at the thing when doing it. Ass. Give me my goddamn buttons.

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@McStrongfast said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

They may have it right for the next few years. But you look at the quality of games coming on tablets it wont be long before they surpass PS4 and Xbox One. Both PS4 and Xbox One will need to diversify in the 2nd have their lifespan. Xbox One is doing it early and while it doesn't go down well with core gamers (me included to some extent) as long as the get a decent number of decent games all the extra's its providing make a great overall package. But this wont be appreciated for a few years to come.

As long as touchscreens don't have buttons, sticks or triggers, they'll never surpass consoles. Limited controls = limited games.

I blame Apple for their form > function designs. Changing songs on an ipod has become totally stupid and annoying. And needlessly dangerous, as you have to look at the thing when doing it. Ass. Give me my goddamn buttons.

Indeed. I'd rather have a controller in my hands than a touch screen. Tablet/smart phone gaming is okay for casual entertainment.....but for gaming I will always want a console.

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I agree, games is always been sony's priority with playstation, the rest are just extra

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Well the Xbox One has the best lineup of games right now so that claim is not hard to disprove.

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Video games are so 2005. Its all about apps and services now.

:P

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#23  Edited By waltefmoney
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@juarbles said:

@waltefmoney said:

Well the Xbox One has the best lineup of games right now so that claim is not hard to disprove.

First you would have to prove that your opinion equals fact. Good luck with that LOL

Even if it didnt the sheer quantity and quality of the games lineup still disproves his claim so whatever.

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He's not a god or anything. He's just stating his personal opinion like many of us do. Sony 's launch lineup is huge compared to the Xbone. I see more than big budget games on my radar. I also see games like resogun, rime, and outlast. All of these games look very interesting.

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Oh man, that MS E3 was such a trainwreck, lol.

At least they somewhat recovered.

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Well the Xbox One has the best lineup of games right now so that claim is not hard to disprove.

oh cmon. they have MORE. thats about it. anyone who can look beyond release knows how this will ultimately end, its not rocket science or crystal ball material.

PS4 will outsell Xbox because EU/Asia ect prefer it and PS3 caught up despite 1 year behind. this time however its the fastest selling console straight away, cheaper, more powerful, more flexible for game support.

First parties, mmos, free2play games focus. purely gaming focused.

We all know how this will end.

Xbox will have better multimedia features and maybe some decent kinect games if we are really REALLY lucky.

MEanwhile PS4 will be fine for online and features but have more worthwhile exclusives and overall playerbase/support.

obvious, you dont need to have a crystal ball or be an analyst.

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lmao The bottom line is people want the console that they have been playing. Every person I know that had a 360 is getting an X1. Everyone who is getting the PS4 already has the PS3. All of this Fanboyism is pointless. With that said, the X1 has a stronger line up in my opinion so that alone ruins the argument that dude is trying to make.

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there is the fact that X1 is crushing the PS4 with launch games and that cant be debated. Now do I think that whoever this guy is right I would say yes but as I don't really see anything wrong with that. I know a lot of people on this website feel like its all about games but its a big diverse world and I can understand if MS feels like they can deliver games as well as other forms of entertainment.

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#29  Edited By waltefmoney
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@MBirdy88 said:

@waltefmoney said:

Well the Xbox One has the best lineup of games right now so that claim is not hard to disprove.

oh cmon. they have MORE. thats about it. anyone who can look beyond release knows how this will ultimately end, its not rocket science or crystal ball material.

PS4 will outsell Xbox because EU/Asia ect prefer it and PS3 caught up despite 1 year behind. this time however its the fastest selling console straight away, cheaper, more powerful, more flexible for game support.

First parties, mmos, free2play games focus. purely gaming focused.

We all know how this will end.

Xbox will have better multimedia features and maybe some decent kinect games if we are really REALLY lucky.

MEanwhile PS4 will be fine for online and features but have more worthwhile exclusives and overall playerbase/support.

obvious, you dont need to have a crystal ball or be an analyst.

You can't predict this shit. Nobody predicted that Wii would sell the most last gen until it actually did. I find it ironic how the people who are saying that the we shouldn't judge video game consoles based on their launch lineup are the same people who are claiming the PS4 to be the winner already based on their projected launch performance.

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We've known that since MS dropped core in 2009 and it was reaffirmed with the abortion of a reveal the xbone 180 had.

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#32  Edited By danabo
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@waltefmoney said:

You can't predict this shit. Nobody predicted that Wii would sell the most last gen until it actually did. I find it ironic how the people who are saying that the we shouldn't judge video game consoles based on their launch lineup are the same people who are claiming the PS4 to be the winner already based on their projected launch performance.

I've said this before, but there's also the possibility that (after the relative failure of the Wii U) Nintendo will release a true next-gen contender in the next three-five years that makes the PS4 and Xbox One look more than sub-par.

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When I see Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, and Ryse at launch compared to PS4's offerings... When I think of 2014 I see Quantum Break, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Titanfall, Project Spark, and Sunset Overdrive as confirmed... When we know for a fact that the Xbox One retail console is also a dev kit, greatly reducing the price of dev kits for indie devs... when I hear of the dedicated servers for all multiplayer games... When I see every bigname multiplat coming out for the system... When I see all of the exclusive game content secured for Xbox One gamers... Free servers for all game devs no matter how big or small... LMAO, his comments just hold no weight. shrugs.

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@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

Couldn't of said it better myself. Karma added.

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@Heil68 said:

@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

Couldn't of said it better myself. Karma added.

The One is just as much a games machine as the PS4, its only that it has more than one focus which is also the entertainment side. Games wise you can boast about better specs, but experiences sell consoles not the best graphics. Crysis sales clearly show that. There is no Tittanfall on a tablet, or Halo 5 on a smart phone. Both consoles are equal in terms of being games machines - Its only that the One was built to do more, while the PS4 was built for better graphics. To say that the One isn't a games console is downright silly. Its just capable of more.

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I dun see a big deal with that, however in doing so they are enforcing many unnecessary features which drive the price up. Their premium service isn't that special anymore, they need to up what they offer to justify the price.

And their first party is subpar compared to Sony and Ninty, wow, they have a lot of work to do.

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@Sagem28 said:

Oh man, that MS E3 was such a trainwreck, lol.

At least they somewhat recovered.

LOL no it wasn't, unless showing game after game is your idea of a trainwreck.

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Microsoft is trying hard with games right now but we saw how they regressed once the Xbox 360 got a foothold of marketshare. Sony will continue to put games at the forefront and luckily they have the studios to do so. Most of Microsofts current exclusives are 3rd Party and will dry up especially with the PS4 selling better initially.

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Microsoft is aiming for more demographics. Even with that, their game lineup still managed to look better. Quite ironic.

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#40  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@shawn30 said:

@Heil68 said:

@Wasdie said:

I agree with him 100%. Microsoft is focused on diversifying the audience with the Xbox One. They don't just want gamers, hey want to appeal to people who would rather buy tablets or other electronic devices. They probably see the game console outlook to be bleak and thus feel like they need these additional features.

I have a different outlook. As long as the $200 tablets exist and stream services gain popularity over cable, the consoles could offer all of the fancy home entertainment features they want and people will still choose the $200 tablet over the console. Consoles are going to be for the gamers this generation, not the larger audiences. Microsoft's diversity is going to lessen the quality of the games that appear on the console. They've also put more features behind a pay wall and in general made the device more expensive.

Sony has it right this gen. They figure those multimedia features should exist but shouldn't be the focus. Gamers are going to be the ones buying consoles this next generation. Last gen they pretty much lost the entire casual audience to the Wii. Their idea of a "home entertainment console" didn't do well out of the gate. It wasn't until they put a re-emphasis on games and cut the price did the PS3 finally start getting the sales.

Couldn't of said it better myself. Karma added.

The One is just as much a games machine as the PS4, its only that it has more than one focus which is also the entertainment side. Games wise you can boast about better specs, but experiences sell consoles not the best graphics. Crysis sales clearly show that. There is no Tittanfall on a tablet, or Halo 5 on a smart phone. Both consoles are equal in terms of being games machines - Its only that the One was built to do more, while the PS4 was built for better graphics. To say that the One isn't a games console is downright silly. Its just capable of more.

As hardware they are equal but hardware doesn't define the direction the parent company goes. The console is trying to be a "one-size-fits-all" home entertainment machine. It's up against cheap tablets and smart TVs in that department and is not exactly cheap for what it offers. Microsoft will be spending as much time and effort trying to secure more media deals and enhancing compatibility with cable boxes and whatnot as they will with trying to make games.

As was very clear last generation, Microsoft doesn't focus well on the games. Once they got a few core franchise they continue to milk them all while attempting to monetize their device as much as possible. The advertisements on the home screen of the 360 despite being a XBL subscriber were all of the evidence I need to realize they aren't as worried about offering a great service as much as they were worried about profiting. The direction the Xbox One has taken is further evidence to support this. Everything about it is based upon monetize the system as much as possible. They put a lot of features behind a paywall and almost launched with a blatant monetization of used games. Only after a massive backlash did they decide to back off on the whole thing.

The One's price point, paywall, and Microsoft's direction as a company right now is all of the evidence I need to come to the conclusion that Microsoft is no longer focused on delivering a solid product and great service but rather trying to monetize as many markets as possible. That's not good for the dedicated gamers and I don't think they'll stand up against the other hardware that is doing almost everything the Xbox One is doing on the media side of things for cheaper.

I predict that consoles are going to only sell well with the dedicated gamers. Last generation the PS3/360/Wii came out in a time when HDTVs were taking off. There were no smart TVs, netflix, general streaming hardware, tablets, smart devices or any of that. The consoles were some of the first to offer a large variety of easy streaming and app support which made them very appealing to people who were investing into HDTVs. Now the market is far more diversified and more competitive than ever. Focusing on something other devices do for cheaper and more conveniently is not exactly going to win people over.

Focusing on gaming is all Sony and Microsoft should be doing. There is a large enough dedicated gaming market out there to support that. Media features should compliment the gaming, not take focus away. The Xbox One doesn't have clear direction and this is going to become far more apparent in the coming months as their 2 year outlook for games thins in favor of money-making schemes through apps and whatnot.

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Microsoft is aiming for more demographics. Even with that, their game lineup still managed to look better. Quite ironic.

Yep.

They've invested double what Sony is in games (for the XOne and PS4), which is quite strange for a company whose priority is apparently not games.

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#42  Edited By 2mrw
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@RR360DD said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Microsoft is aiming for more demographics. Even with that, their game lineup still managed to look better. Quite ironic.

Yep.

They've invested double what Sony is in games (for the XOne and PS4), which is quite strange for a company whose priority is apparently not games.

No wonder the X360 exclusive line up has been lackluster for abt a yeaa, 2...3 ....4 years now !!!

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@RR360DD: Amount invested doesn't matter as much as quality of investments. From what I can tell Microsoft paid a **** ton for nothing. Their lineup is weak and their 2-3 year outlook is even weaker. Their lack of investment into F2P games, their insistence of putting everything behind a paywall, and them throwing money around to try to grab exclusives instead of rebuilt a 1st party that they can be proud of is hurting them.

I don't trust Microsoft. They'll bank on Halo and CoD again this generation.

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@Stevo_the_gamer
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Microsoft is aiming for more demographics. Even with that, their game lineup still managed to look better. Quite ironic.

That's what I was thinking.

Sony dropped the ball on their launch. I don't think I've ever seen a worse exclusive lineup.

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so a dev who made a PS exclusive game thinks the PS4 is better? no way? lol

If anything MS is more focused on gamers. bringing back KI (a fan favorite classic) for free, a next gen top of the line racer at 1080p and 60fps, and brand new amazing looking IP in ryse, and winner of every award at E3 almost titanfall. while Sony has gave a kids game in knack and a generic crap franchise killzone sequal.

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@HaRmLeSS_RaGe said:

His argument might hold a little more weight if the PS4's game line up wasn't a wasteland of nothingness...

this. for a system thats supposedly focused on games there sure isnt a lot to get excited for right now.

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I love the pay wall argument especially that ps4 now has one too. But I guess nobody plans on playing online multiplayer on ps4 as they keep bringing up xbl pay feature

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It's pretty evident by their launch line-up. They're trying to go for a more service-oriented system. There's nothing wrong with that so long as you don't lose sight of where you began. Which, unfortunately, they have.

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@danabo said:

Weird that the launch line-up on the One looks far superior. Still, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, TV, TV, Sports.

Good thing consoles aren't judged by launch catalogs alone. Release a few games at launch to get you to buy their consoles, then abandon first party development. The Microsoft way.