Report: Xbox One under 30 mil units sold as of Dec. 31 according to EA

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#1 BenjaminBanklin
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Engage me if true! According to EA's estimates, the combined sales of PS4/Xbox One are at 103 million as of Dec 31st, 2017. Since Sony reported sales of 73.6 of PS4 by this same date, that leaves Xbox One at a whopping... 29.4 million or so systems sold by this time! EeeYOUCH!

https://www.dualshockers.com/ea-estimates-ps4-xbox-one-sales-will-reach-130-million-year-switch-expected-pass-30-million/

This confirms my thoughts that if MS just stopped reporting numbers altogether, the unit sales are far worse than we thought. The very reason why they've retreated to reporting dubious metrics like "engagement" and "monthly active users" to hide the shame. Even the reporting of revenue is vague under their Gaming umbrella since they can add just about anything they think is gaming related to the financial reports.

Where most people believed the numbers were about 36 mil by this point, it's probably around 32 or so in reality at current, given the lack of popularity with the brand WW. I know EA has a close relationship with MS, so that's why they report combined numbers of PS4 and Xbox instead of individually, but even reporting like this does MS no favors when Sony actually releases their figures.

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#2 Random_Matt
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Damn, beat me to it, already said it's dead outside the US. Xbox sells because of patriotism, nothing else. MS doesn't have to offer anything good to their fans.

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#3  Edited By dotWithShoes
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@BenjaminBanklin: unhealthy obsession with the Xbox, I'd say.

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#4 BenjaminBanklin
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@dotWithShoes said:

@BenjaminBanklin: unhealthy obsession with the Xbox, I'd say.

I'm just reporting the facts, and they don't give a damn about your feelings. Damage controlling is far less healthier.

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#5  Edited By emgesp
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Yep, saw it on resetera and a couple people in the know confirmed it to be accurate.

Pretty freaking sad. I thought they would be at 40 million by now.

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#6 Random_Matt
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What did it do in 18 months?

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#7  Edited By QuadKnight
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You beat me to it. I was actually gonna post this here after seeing it on Resetera. Some reputable sources over there have confirmed it too.

Looks like it's doing worse than we imagined, and all those estimates over 35-40 million were wrong too. No wonder MS stopped reporting numbers. To go from the 360 to selling under 30 million in 4 years plus is pretty damn sad. I suspected the console was doing worse than people realized when MS stopped reporting even software sales numbers and started reporting "engagement" and "friendships formed". Sales in Europe and the rest of the world must have cratered a long time ago. Seems US and UK are the only places they are still selling.

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#8 hrt_rulz01
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Oh look, another cow circle jerk thread with the usual suspects... you guys really are too obsessed. It's just a plastic box, no need to think about it 24/7.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Oh look, another cow circle jerk thread with the usual suspects... you guys really are too obsessed. It's just a plastic box, no need to think about it 24/7.

You spend more time damage controlling for Xbone than you do playing games I bet. You need to find a new hobby.

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#10 Wiiboxstation
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The sales are not terrible. That has outsold a lot of previous consoles.

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#11  Edited By knight-k
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@wiiboxstation said:

The sales are not terrible. That has outsold a lot of previous consoles.

It's better than Wii U...

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#12  Edited By QuadKnight
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@wiiboxstation said:

The sales are not terrible. That has outsold a lot of previous consoles.

For a modern console the sales are quite horrible. The console gaming market has grown a lot since the 80s and 90s, they should be selling much higher. 29.4 million after 4 years on the market is abysmal, even 35 million (the previous estimate) was bad.

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#13 Random_Matt
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@wiiboxstation said:

The sales are not terrible. That has outsold a lot of previous consoles.

Even the dreamcast sold around 10 million in it's 18 months, X1 is selling poorly.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Oh look, another cow circle jerk thread with the usual suspects... you guys really are too obsessed. It's just a plastic box, no need to think about it 24/7.

Sorry if most of us aren't living in the Xbox bubble where everything is sunshine and roses. You think this is okay? Then you guys wonder why the system isn't getting major dedicated first party AAAs, but early access crap and lackluster GaaS garbage instead. This console isn't selling very well, hence the band-aids like the leaning on last gen content and introducing some new features that no one but the average Xbox diehard would care about.

MS hides these numbers because they know it's a red flag for people to stay away. There's nothing in Xbox's future to move units but price cuts ahead. You're only falling apart because it exposes the truth.

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@BenjaminBanklin: You spend more time talking about the Xbox and praying that games fail than you do playing games I bet. You need to find a new hobby.

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@wiiboxstation said:

The sales are not terrible. That has outsold a lot of previous consoles.

LOL, gotta find a positive spin.

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#17 hrt_rulz01
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@boycie: Exactly... well said.

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#18 BenjaminBanklin
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@boycie said:

@BenjaminBanklin: You spend more time talking about the Xbox and praying that games fail than you do playing games I bet. You need to find a new hobby.

Oh fucking spare me. You can play video games and talk about the business of them too. You're not playing any video game right now and hanging out on System Wars damage controlling. So what's your excuse? I'm not the reason the Xbox is failing, so go vent your grief on Microsoft.

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#19 Tigerbalm
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Rabid Xbox Fanatics aren't questioning the validity of the report, they are attacking the people that post in the thread and the TC. This is typical fanatic behavior.

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#21 Howmakewood
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@emgesp said:

Yep, saw it on resetera and a couple people in the know confirmed it to be accurate.

Pretty freaking sad. I thought they would be at 40 million by now.

Yet ZhugeEX said there was something in the miss and it's in the OP of the thread as well

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#22  Edited By jdc6305
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This isn't good because it just means microsoft is more willing to push exclusive game development to their next console. Late in the OG Xbox's and 360's lifespan exclusives dried up. Anything currently early in development on the Xbox One I'd be surprised if it came out on the system and didn't pushed back. Same thing happened with the WiiU after a certain point Nintendo all but abandoned it. Next gen might come sooner then you think. Personally I'd rather see game companies max this gen out first. I hate short generation cycles and new systems. I've seen very few games this gen that push what these consoles can do.

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#23 DaVillain-  Moderator
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Xbox One fans can try to sugarcoat it, but seeing Xbox One sold $30 million in almost 5 years is NOT impressive nor it is nowhere at least $50 million by now. I'm sorry but $30 million in almost 5 years is downright awful, MS needs a combat but then again, this gen is almost over, Xbox One will go down as the disaster MS console in history.

MS is just gonna have to try again in next-gen Xbox console.

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#24 SecretPolice
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Lololololol... dat desperation.... Fake numbers, Fake reviews, Fake narratives, Fake mofo news..... Eh, just Fake it all why don't you?

Fake you guys, I'm going home. :P

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#25 BenjaminBanklin
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@jdc6305 said:

This isn't good because it just means microsoft is more willing to push exclusive game development to their next console. Late in the OG Xbox's and 360's lifespan exclusives dried up. Anything currently early in development on the Xbox One I'd be surprised if it came out on the system and didn't pushed back. Same thing happened with the WiiU after a certain point Nintendo all but abandoned it. Next gen might come sooner then you think. Personally I'd rather see game companies max this gen out first. I hate short generation cycles and new systems. I've seen very few games this gen that push what these consoles can do.

Exactly. MS is gonna drop the "no more generations" horsecrap and jump into the next console sooner rather than later. I wouldn't even be surprised if they drop the Xbox moniker altogether and call it something else completely. I mean, they're getting aced by both the Switch and the PS4 at this point. So much so, the former will be surpassing it LTD likely by the end of the fiscal year, or earlier.

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#26 ReCloud
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@BenjaminBanklin: I really believe they should rename the brand, the Xbox reveal and then drought of games really hurt that name so keeping it might not be a good idea.

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#27 kuu2
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Hey look!

#FakeNews

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#28 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@recloud: Remaining the brand will just confuse a hell lot of casuals. What the Xbox brand really needs is just AAA badass exclusive games! That's all it takes.

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#29 ReCloud
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@davillain-: switch renamed the brand and it's successful as hell.

I don't really feel it's a good marketing business keeping the name of a failed brand.

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#30 NathanDrakeSwag
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Lol just lol

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#31 Juub1990
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@kuu2: You have to demand better from Microsoft. They’re flopping. Stop defending them.

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@recloud said:

@davillain-: switch renamed the brand and it's successful as hell.

I don't really feel it's a good marketing business keeping the name of a failed brand.

As long as MS can send out a clear message it's a new and improve brand, then by all means. MS needs to get in on the exclusive department at the very least.

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#33  Edited By SecretPolice
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@kuu2 said:

Hey look!

#FakeNews

Fact!! MS/Xbox firing on all cylinders has the usual MS/Xbox anti-fans on suicide watch. Fun to watch isn't it? lol :P

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#34 sts106mat
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hahaha, look at all the cows falling over themselves because they wanted to post this "news".

great job sony fans!

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#35 BenjaminBanklin
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@kuu2 said:

Hey look!

#FakeNews

Naturally the Xbox fandom views themselves like the Trump movement. Except, ya know, Trump actually GAINED traction.

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#36 Random_Matt
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kuu2 said:

Hey look!

#FakeNews

Naturally the Xbox fandom views themselves like the Trump movement. Except, ya know, Trump actually GAINED traction.

They will all be PS gamers when Xbox hopefully disappears.

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#37  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Oh look, another cow circle jerk thread with the usual suspects... you guys really are too obsessed. It's just a plastic box, no need to think about it 24/7.

You're aware that you are on a board called System Wars, right?
Honestly can't think of any reason why you are damage controlling this hard 24/7.

You could always go to the Xbox forum and steer clear of all the harsh, but factual criticism directed towards the Xbone.

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@kuu2 said:

Hey look!

#FakeNews

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@kuu2: How's it fake?

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#40 SecretPolice
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@Alucard_Prime said:
@kuu2 said:

Hey look!

#FakeNews

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#41 VFighter
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@SecretPolice: How's it fake?

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#42 BenjaminBanklin
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@vfighter said:

@SecretPolice: How's it fake?

What these alt accounts are bothered by is the fact that it makes their console of choice look less than desirable, therefore, they have immersed themselves in a fantasy that the Xbox One is the most successful product of all time. I call it, brain damage.

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#43  Edited By SecretPolice
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@vfighter:

Because it's false narrative, fake news unless the numbers come from the only Real source who knows, MS.

Sheeesh,, it's not rocket science ya know? lol :P

EDIT: EDIT: posts above and below.... lolol

I suppose to some it is rocket science. hahahahah

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#44 Shewgenja
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Bwahahahaha!!!!! Let me just enjoy this... mwahahahahahaha!!!

Holy and unholy gods, did I get beaten with the fanboy stick up in here for daring to question whether Xbox broke Gen 6 numbers despite THREE DIFFERENT PERFORMING SKUS!!! To everyone talking that good stuff til you got kicked in yo face!

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#45 VFighter
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@SecretPolice: So you have zero idea, gotcha, anyone else?

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#46 EyeBoonsEyebrow
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Now we know why Microsoft stopped giving sales numbers and is giving ENGAGEMENT numbers. Lol

Microsoft has done serious damage to the Xbox brand. Can't see them fixing this next gen either.

Massive worldwide flop

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#47  Edited By SecretPolice
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@vfighter said:

@SecretPolice: So you have zero idea, gotcha, anyone else?

So, zero cred and not even a pocket rocket science for you, gotcha. lol :P

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#48 Shewgenja
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I was gonna say "In before someone says this is okay" but I'll be danned. I guess some of the Lems think these vidya gaemz are still made in Standard Definition with 20 million dollar budgets. Making Console Gaming 2003 Again.

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#49 ReCloud
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C'mon guys, why are you taking secret police and kuu2 seriously at this point? They're personas, they don't act or talk like real or normal people.

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#50 SecretPolice
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This just in, SP, the Unquestionable, Undisputed, Approved source for all things MS/Xbox says..... X1, X1X sold through 78 million... Mooaar at 11:00. lol :P