Reasons Why Consolites Don't Care About PC Gaming

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#251 Posted by MBirdy88 (12130 posts) -
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]

I never said mods couldn't be amusing. Giving everyone a giant head can be pretty funny sure, but it's not the way the game was intended to be played.

Miketheman83

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

The way the creators intended it to be played.

And why does that matter if its inferior?
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#252 Posted by Riadon2 (1598 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

MBirdy88

The way the creators intended it to be played.

And why does that matter if its inferior?

Don't. Feed. The. Troll.

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#253 Posted by MBirdy88 (12130 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The way the creators intended it to be played.Riadon2

And why does that matter if its inferior?

Don't. Feed. The. Troll.

Yea I've had my fill. I'm out.
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#254 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]

I never said mods couldn't be amusing. Giving everyone a giant head can be pretty funny sure, but it's not the way the game was intended to be played.

Miketheman83

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

The way the creators intended it to be played.

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#255 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]

I never said mods couldn't be amusing. Giving everyone a giant head can be pretty funny sure, but it's not the way the game was intended to be played.

Miketheman83

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

The way the creators intended it to be played.

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

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#256 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

clyde46

The way the creators intended it to be played.

:P

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#257 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

i always wonder about the inner workings of the minds of people like the TC

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#258 Posted by Miketheman83 (3156 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well how was the game intended to be played... having fun isn't part of it ?

lostrib

The way the creators intended it to be played.

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?
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#259 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The way the creators intended it to be played.Miketheman83

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

Oh lord.
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#260 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The way the creators intended it to be played.Miketheman83

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

why not?

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#261 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The way the creators intended it to be played.Miketheman83

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

The intelligence is just beaming off of you, isn't it?

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#262 Posted by MBirdy88 (12130 posts) -
[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

clyde46
Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

Oh lord.

Yup its about time to let this thread die.
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#263 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
Since this thread is boring, lets spice it up.  They spent 82,000 Euros on plastic surgery.
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#264 Posted by Miketheman83 (3156 posts) -

i always wonder about the inner workings of the minds of people like the TC

AcidThunder
You have to live in reality to understand.
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#265 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]

i always wonder about the inner workings of the minds of people like the TC

Miketheman83
You have to live in reality to understand.

An alternate reality.
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#266 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]

i always wonder about the inner workings of the minds of people like the TC

Miketheman83

You have to live in reality to understand.



f*** i didn't know that all my life up till now has been a dream
what am i gonna do? what am i gonna do? 

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#267 Posted by lundy86_4 (48572 posts) -

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?Miketheman83

You realize that many developers actually release mod tools, because they  want  people to mod their game, right? CDPR are currently creating their Red kit, to allow for people to mod The Witcher 2 (link).

Hell, Valve like to hire from the modding community, because they see the creativity. Many of those mods are made using the Source engine, which is owned by Valve. Mojang have also hired from their modding community.

Now, Crytek have also given permission to recreate Timesplitters as a mod, including the original assets (link). Also:

Crytek also hired the guys who did the MW:LL mod.clyde46

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Modding Video Games Is Good For The Original Game Creators And Future Game Developers

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#268 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] The way the creators intended it to be played.Miketheman83

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

How are those two things at all related. How is your appearance a work of art?

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#269 Posted by iHarlequin (1928 posts) -

I don't know why PC owners are debateing this. We have better graphics, better games, more utility, we aren't linked to a single company (Maybe Windows, to a certain extent), our games are cheaper (Steam), we have decent DD plataforms, we don't have to stick with the same piece of **** hardware for seven years, we don't have to pay for multiplayer (that's more of a 360 thing). We have so many good things, we don't need to rub it in their face.

 

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A PC that can run current generation games on the LOWEST settings looks better than the settings on a console. They have their advantages (single hardware, more optimization, the generation skips are solid barriers, etc.) but PC just bulldozes them.

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#270 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

lostrib

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

How are those two things at all related. How is your appearance a work of art?

I'm sure his appearance isn't art.

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#271 Posted by biggest_loser (24258 posts) -
Oh look its this thread again. Cringing.
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#272 Posted by Miketheman83 (3156 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

What if the game is broken the way the creators made it?  Should'nt i use mods to fix it, to at least make it playable

lostrib

Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?

How are those two things at all related. How is your appearance a work of art?

The point is that nothing is perfect. If humans agreed everything that was imperfect nothing would be in its original form. I can find imperfections with every piece of music, movies, television, but changing them is alleging their personality and the original creators vision.
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#273 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

Oh look its this thread again. Cringing. biggest_loser

We see these literally every week.

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#274 Posted by N30F3N1X (8609 posts) -

1. System Requirements- Checking requirements for every game you purchase is annoying and cumbersome. People shouldn't have to do research every time they buy a game. Ain't nobody got time fo dat. Nothing is more annoying than having problems running a game you've been waiting to play.

2. Keyboard and mouse- It really is an outdated way to control video games. PC games often map their controls to certain letters all around the keyboard. It's often very awkward and imprecise. We don't need the whole alphabet in our controller.

3. Games- PC games just don't have the big budgets as top tier console games. PC games often feel amateurish and outdated. While I love games like Left 4 Dead and The Witcher they are very unpolished games compared to console games, and that is because of small dev teams and low budgets.

4. Price/Accessibility- Keeping up with the latest tech can be very pricey and time consuming. Most of us have lives outside of gaming. Spending time cooped up in our rooms building/upgrading PC's is not an appealing thought.

5. Comfort- Sitting on the couch with a big screen television is the way video games are meant to be played. Sitting at a computer desk with a small monitor is  killing the fun in my opinion. The argument that you can connect your PC to your television and play with a controller is a poor argument because in reality you are just trying to make your PC like a console.

 

I really wish PC gamers would stop trying to "sell" the PC to us console gamers.  Bottom line is that we are aware of the benefits of PC gaming, but the cons outweigh the benefits by a large margin. Console companies aren't threatened by PC gaming, consoles gamers aren't threatened by PC gaming, truth is, no one really cares about PC gaming except the elitist people that spendvall their time on forums trying to convert people who couldn't be any more disinterested.

Miketheman83

It's obvious that you have no f*cking clue of what PC gaming is nor how to do it. No wonder the only people who agree with you are people who don't even know the difference between SPU, GPU and CPU ;)

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#275 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?lundy86_4

You realize that many developers actually release mod tools, because they  want  people to mod their game, right? Hell, Valve like to hire from the modding community, because they see the creativity. Many of those mods are made using the Source engine, which is owned by Valve. Mojang have also hired from their modding community. Now, Crytek have also given permission to recreate Timesplitters as a mod, including the original assets (link).

Crytek also hired the guys who did the MW:LL mod.
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#276 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Altering any piece of art to suit your specific needs is wrong no matter how bad the original version is. I can find a thousand things wrong with my appearance, dots that mean I should go and alter it with plastic surgery?Miketheman83

How are those two things at all related. How is your appearance a work of art?

The point is that nothing is perfect. If humans agreed everything that was imperfect nothing would be in its original form. I can find imperfections with every piece of music, movies, television, but changing them is alleging their personality and the original creators vision.

Wow you are just talking out of your ass

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#277 Posted by lundy86_4 (48572 posts) -

Crytek also hired the guys who did the MW:LL mod.clyde46

It's things like this that just shows how much of a twit the TC is :P

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#278 Posted by N30F3N1X (8609 posts) -

The point is that nothing is perfect. If humans agreed everything that was imperfect nothing would be in its original form. I can find imperfections with every piece of music, movies, television, but changing them is alleging their personality and the original creators vision.Miketheman83

Then why don't you go back to live in the caves instead of whining over the internet?

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#279 Posted by Jankarcop (11056 posts) -

There are more threads selling consoles than PC....

 

 

 

The OP is basically saying PC gamers can no longer participate in SW, because he doesn't like losing.

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#280 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

i have to give this guy credit for one thing at least - he is a master in the art of self-ownage

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#281 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -

Fantastic thread. Every single point is irrefutable

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#282 Posted by Miketheman83 (3156 posts) -

There are more threads selling consoles than PC....

 

 

 

The OP is basically saying PC gamers can no longer participate in SW, because he doesn't like losing.

Jankarcop
No I'm saying PC gamers can stop trying to sell the PC's superiority to people who couldn't care less about it.
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#283 Posted by MBirdy88 (12130 posts) -
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

There are more threads selling consoles than PC....

 

 

 

The OP is basically saying PC gamers can no longer participate in SW, because he doesn't like losing.

Miketheman83
No I'm saying PC gamers can stop trying to sell the PC's superiority to people who couldn't care less about it.

Then those people are on the wrong forum simple as.
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#284 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

There are more threads selling consoles than PC....

 

 

 

The OP is basically saying PC gamers can no longer participate in SW, because he doesn't like losing.

Miketheman83
No I'm saying PC gamers can stop trying to sell the PC's superiority to people who couldn't care less about it.

Indeed. They should be banned from SW... why PC gamers post here is a head scratcher indeed.
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#285 Posted by DroidPhysX (17098 posts) -
lol consoles dat 2005 tech
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#286 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29576 posts) -

Ignorance mostly.

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#287 Posted by N30F3N1X (8609 posts) -

Indeed. They should be banned from SW... why PC gamers post here is a head scratcher indeed. whiskeystrike

Can't stand competition when it's so crushing ;) ?

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#288 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]lol consoles dat 2005 tech

Mmm yet they sap every single developer's attention from PC gaming. PC is merely a placeholder for lowbudget devs and MMOs (which I fully expect to become prevalent next gen). Every relevant dev wants to be on console. They enjoy customers who pay for their products
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#289 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Indeed. They should be banned from SW... why PC gamers post here is a head scratcher indeed. N30F3N1X

Can't stand competition when it's so crushing ;) ?

Competition from who? Any dev who makes games that doesn't have to be limited by the keyboard ends up on consoles at one point or another. It is the ultimate goal of any money maker
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#290 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]lol consoles dat 2005 techwhiskeystrike
Mmm yet they sap every single developer's attention from PC gaming. PC is merely a placeholder for lowbudget devs and MMOs (which I fully expect to become prevalent next gen). Every relevant dev wants to be on console. They enjoy customers who pay for their products

many low budget devs turn to PC because you don't have to pay to a company for a game to be released on the PC
and apparently you haven't heard about Blizzard 

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#291 Posted by Miketheman83 (3156 posts) -
[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]
[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

There are more threads selling consoles than PC....

 

 

 

The OP is basically saying PC gamers can no longer participate in SW, because he doesn't like losing.

MBirdy88
No I'm saying PC gamers can stop trying to sell the PC's superiority to people who couldn't care less about it.

Then those people are on the wrong forum simple as.

Why are PC gamers so intent on pushing their platform that console gamers want nothing to do with on them? Doesn't make any sense to me. The 360/PS3 debate is actually a decent debate considering they are such similar platforms. PC gamers just have to face the facts that they will never be the majority.
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#292 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]lol consoles dat 2005 techAcidThunder

Mmm yet they sap every single developer's attention from PC gaming. PC is merely a placeholder for lowbudget devs and MMOs (which I fully expect to become prevalent next gen). Every relevant dev wants to be on console. They enjoy customers who pay for their products

many low budget devs turn to PC because you don't have to pay to a company for a game to be released on the PC
and apparently you haven't heard about Blizzard 

You're correct, they turn to PC out of neccessity, not out of choice. Look at all the great bastions of PC devs that existed at the beginning of this gen. Where do they end up? Where does any relevant PC dev end up? Blizzard is irrelevant to console gamers. Blizzard has accepted the fact that their products have to be limited by the keyboard and console gamers have accepted the fact that one decent dev is nothing to miss out on. Besides, everyone with two brain cells to rub together know that next gen consoles will also sap MMOs as well.
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#293 Posted by DroidPhysX (17098 posts) -
[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]lol consoles dat 2005 tech

Mmm yet they sap every single developer's attention from PC gaming. PC is merely a placeholder for lowbudget devs and MMOs (which I fully expect to become prevalent next gen). Every relevant dev wants to be on console. They enjoy customers who pay for their products

That's because consoles appeal to the lowest common denominator of prospective consumers looking to purchasing gaming equipment. hurr durr
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#294 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]lol consoles dat 2005 techDroidPhysX
Mmm yet they sap every single developer's attention from PC gaming. PC is merely a placeholder for lowbudget devs and MMOs (which I fully expect to become prevalent next gen). Every relevant dev wants to be on console. They enjoy customers who pay for their products

That's because consoles appeal to the lowest common denominator of prospective consumers looking to purchasing gaming equipment. hurr durr

No, they appeal to everyone.

And lol, only a PC gamer would call it "equipment"

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#295 Posted by Plagueless (2569 posts) -
[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] No I'm saying PC gamers can stop trying to sell the PC's superiority to people who couldn't care less about it.

Then those people are on the wrong forum simple as.

Why are PC gamers so intent on pushing their platform that console gamers want nothing to do with on them? Doesn't make any sense to me. The 360/PS3 debate is actually a decent debate considering they are such similar platforms. PC gamers just have to face the facts that they will never be the majority.

The best specimens in nature are never the majority, but this does not mean they are not the best. Submit to the master race. :P
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#296 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

Fantastic thread. Every single point is irrefutable

whiskeystrike

lol :D

 

You again. How's it going, cow?

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#297 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"] Then those people are on the wrong forum simple as.Plagueless
Why are PC gamers so intent on pushing their platform that console gamers want nothing to do with on them? Doesn't make any sense to me. The 360/PS3 debate is actually a decent debate considering they are such similar platforms. PC gamers just have to face the facts that they will never be the majority.

The best specimens in nature are never the majority, but this does not mean they are not the best. Submit to the master race. :P

GloriousPCGamingMasterRace.png.

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#298 Posted by Plagueless (2569 posts) -

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why are PC gamers so intent on pushing their platform that console gamers want nothing to do with on them? Doesn't make any sense to me. The 360/PS3 debate is actually a decent debate considering they are such similar platforms. PC gamers just have to face the facts that they will never be the majority.AcidThunder

The best specimens in nature are never the majority, but this does not mean they are not the best. Submit to the master race. :P

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv335/DarthVerrick/Video%20Games/GloriousPCGamingMasterRace.png.

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#299 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"] Then those people are on the wrong forum simple as.Plagueless
Why are PC gamers so intent on pushing their platform that console gamers want nothing to do with on them? Doesn't make any sense to me. The 360/PS3 debate is actually a decent debate considering they are such similar platforms. PC gamers just have to face the facts that they will never be the majority.

The best specimens in nature are never the majority, but this does not mean they are not the best. Submit to the master race. :P

I completely agree- and nice rig, fellow nobleman.

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#300 Posted by AcidThunder (2332 posts) -

[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] The best specimens in nature are never the majority, but this does not mean they are not the best. Submit to the master race. :PPlagueless

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv335/DarthVerrick/Video%20Games/GloriousPCGamingMasterRace.png.

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