Real reason why the Xbox One has an inferior GPU over the PS4.

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#1 emgesp
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Quote from Eurogamer. 

 "Bottom line: if you're wondering why Xbox One has a weaker GPU than PlayStation 4, it's because both platform holders have similar silicon budgets for the main processor - Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead. From the Xbox perspective, it's just unfortunate for Microsoft that Sony's gamble paid off - right up until the wire, it was confident of shipping with twice the amount of RAM as PlayStation 4."


 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

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xbox one is officially dead my book .
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#3 mrmusicman247
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this is like making an article on why the number 2 is greater than the number 1
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#4 Slow_Show
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this is like making an article on why the number 2 is greater than the number 1mrmusicman247

Considering MS's choice of Xbox names, I'm not sure that would be such an obvious article. 

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laughed pretty hard when they threw on a poor quality basketball game
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]this is like making an article on why the number 2 is greater than the number 1Slow_Show

Considering MS's choice of Xbox names, I'm not sure that would be such an obvious article. 

lmao golden.

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Hahaha, so true... although, I honestly don't get it what they meant by that watercooler thing!

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See, I don't really give a crap about horsepower, but this: 

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... Was a big mistake. I don't understand why Microsoft chose that strategy. Kinect, I get, illumiroom, yeah, nothing wrong with it, but they seem to be trying to sell a cable box, which makes very little sense. TV remotes are as practical as they can possibly be, and if you have too many devices attached to your TV, you just buy a universal remote and that's the end of it. Nobody really wants to change channels using gestures or voice commands. It seems to be really fun and neat to try out... For a while. Then people will go back to the remote. If anything, it should be a side dish, not the main course. 

 

 

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Rocker6

Hahaha, so true... although, I honestly don't get it what they meant by that watercooler thing!

They are such an officemonkey culture they really thought their audience would get that. In a corporate office, people will gather by the water cooler to chit chat while they have a snack or something. They were using 'water cooler' as a euphemism for social area. It's hip to be square in a Microsoft world. NOW WATCH SOME TV DAMNIT!
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

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Shewgenja

Hahaha, so true... although, I honestly don't get it what they meant by that watercooler thing!

They are such an officemonkey culture they really thought their audience would get that. In a corporate office, people will gather by the water cooler to chit chat while they have a snack or something. They were using 'water cooler' as a euphemism for social area. It's hip to be square in a Microsoft world. NOW WATCH SOME TV DAMNIT!

Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! :P

Not really a part of the corporate world, so no suprise the "joke" was lost on me... in any case, they totally fvcked up!

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Hahaha, so true... although, I honestly don't get it what they meant by that watercooler thing!

Rocker6

They are such an officemonkey culture they really thought their audience would get that. In a corporate office, people will gather by the water cooler to chit chat while they have a snack or something. They were using 'water cooler' as a euphemism for social area. It's hip to be square in a Microsoft world. NOW WATCH SOME TV DAMNIT!

Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! :P

Not really a part of the corporate world, so no suprise the "joke" was lost on me... in any case, they totally fvcked up!

I think it's obvious that they work too hard. They follow usage statistics. They "open the margin" and try to maximize capital returns. That's why, the XBox One was the inevitable culmination of the entire XBox brand. They took you where they thought you wanted to go and left all the fun of gaming behind in the process. If EVER you could point to one sign that Microsoft and the XBox specifically, is a brand powered by suits and bean counters, that was the moment. Frankly, anyone I see defending the XBox at this point is a total non-gamer in my opinion. That or damaged goods.  The truth of it is, the people at Redmond WA are just too dense and full of themselves to realize that this is exactly how you murder a brand in a single day.

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Quote from Eurogamer. 

 "Bottom line: if you're wondering why Xbox One has a weaker GPU than PlayStation 4, it's because both platform holders have similar silicon budgets for the main processor - Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead. From the Xbox perspective, it's just unfortunate for Microsoft that Sony's gamble paid off - right up until the wire, it was confident of shipping with twice the amount of RAM as PlayStation 4."


 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

emgesp

That reminds me of the fact that Sony told their devs that the ps4 would have 4gigs RAM. It was not until the ps4 reveal where everyone realized that it was 8gigs instead of 4. Ambush tactic.

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[QUOTE="emgesp"]

Quote from Eurogamer. 

 "Bottom line: if you're wondering why Xbox One has a weaker GPU than PlayStation 4, it's because both platform holders have similar silicon budgets for the main processor - Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead. From the Xbox perspective, it's just unfortunate for Microsoft that Sony's gamble paid off - right up until the wire, it was confident of shipping with twice the amount of RAM as PlayStation 4."


 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one

jhcho2

That reminds me of the fact that Sony told their devs that the ps4 would have 4gigs RAM. It was not until the ps4 reveal where everyone realized that it was 8gigs instead of 4. Ambush tactic.

 

If you read the article it makes it sound like Sony half surprised themselves.  A benefit of not having to lockdown that portion of development as early as MS felt they needed to for the multimedia features.

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Xbox, go home.
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Cows can claim graphics king threads till next next generation.
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Thread on this already son! http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29394946/digital-foundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one---the-gpu-story-vs-ps4
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#20 campzor
Member since 2004 • 34932 Posts

[QUOTE="campzor"]GG lems. Cows can claim graphics king threads till next next generation.Ly_the_Fairy

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if us console gamers ignoring PC for this ENTIRE generation didnt give you the hint, nothing will. Graphics threads are always SONY VS MS, and it will remain like that again
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#21 sukraj
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i dont care for specs i just want to play games.