Read Dead 2 CE/Special/Ultimate Editions up for preorder....and they're terrible

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#1 sHaDyCuBe321
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  • SP content locked behind a paywall
  • Free weapons in multiplayer
  • Bullshit collectors box that DOES NOT include the actual game

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#2 Basinboy
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But how many free lootboxes?

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#3 Ant_17
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@Basinboy said:

But how many free lootboxes?

2 boxes every 100 kills in Battle Royal.

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#4 Basinboy
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@Ant_17: I hate my money, take all of it

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#5 Ant_17
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@Ant_17: I hate my money, take all of it

Gross , you still have your money? I spent it all just now on the Super Edition and the Special Edition cause the Super doesn't have the game.

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#6 ReCloud
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@sHaDyCuBe321: two SP missions behind paywall... Isn't that the norm these days?

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#7 robert_sparkes
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I'll get the base game hate all the special editions only one I've brought is halo 3.

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#8 with_teeth26
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collectors editions of games that don't include the actual game must be one of the stupidest trends this generation

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#9 R4gn4r0k
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The worse the collectors editions, the better it is to just spend 60 bucks.

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#10 uninspiredcup
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It will sell loads, critics won't criticize, as it's always been.

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#11 enzyme36
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But guys... his hat can come flying off, and you will need to find a replacement

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#12 dimebag667
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@enzyme36 said:

But guys... his hat can come flying off, and you will need to find a replacement

Good Point! (Hat rack pre-ordered)

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#13 DaVillain  Moderator
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Locking story missions to get people to pay more? I knew Rockstar became greedy pigs, but I had no idea Rockstar was that hard up for cash! I guess they must have misplaced the billions they made from GTAV. And to make matters worst, Collectors Edition that doesn't come with the game itself!? And most of all, no PC version again!? Man these people are fucking classy!

This is a straight up hard pass RDR2 and I'll just stick to GTAV.

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#14 deactivated-5b8284346a788
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@recloud said:

@sHaDyCuBe321: two SP missions behind paywall... Isn't that the norm these days?

its garbage they can pull that shit on xbox and not on civilized systems.

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#15 MonsieurX
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What a load of crap

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#16 xhawk27
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@davillain- said:

Locking story missions to get people to pay more? I knew Rockstar became greedy pigs, but I had no idea Rockstar was that hard up for cash! I guess they must have misplaced the billions they made from GTAV. And to make matters worst, Collectors Edition that doesn't come with the game itself!? And most of all, no PC version again!? Man these people are fucking classy!

This is a straight up hard pass RDR2 and I'll just stick to GTAV.

Salty? Hahahahaha GOTY RDR2

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#17 X_CAPCOM_X
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That advertisement on their website for it is offensive. It's as long and detailed as a fucking Master's thesis.

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#18 lamprey263
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Just buying base game. I imagine like GTA V they plan on monetizing off online microtransactions and if people are willing to waste their money there then I am fine with that.

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@with_teeth26 said:

collectors editions of games that don't include the actual game must be one of the most stupid trends this generation

I agree.

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#20 Shewgenja
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@sHaDyCuBe321 said:
  • Bullshit collectors box that DOES NOT include the actual game

Is that a new low or just some regular established thing? I can't picture this in my head.

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#21 NathanDrakeSwag
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This is my most anticipated game of the year but yeah these editions are a joke. I'll just get the standard copy of the game for $48. An extra mission and a horse is not worth extra money. Maybe if the special edition included the steelbook I'd consider it but that only comes with the ultimate edition.

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#22 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@NathanDrakeSwag: So much for all that extra stuff Sony paid for in its marketing deal lol

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#23  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@i_p_daily said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: So much for all that extra stuff Sony paid for in its marketing deal lol

That won't cost extra for gamers.

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#24 superbuuman
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@sHaDyCuBe321 said:
  • Bullshit collectors box that DOES NOT include the actual game

Indeed it is bullshit..wtf? bullshit...Collectors box without a game..wtf?? hope it does not become a norm.

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#25 Jacanuk
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Not bad content.

And collector editions without the base game is not new, most collectors editions are like that today.

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#26  Edited By Archangel3371
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I’m super hyped for this game but putting out a Collector’s Edition of a game without including the game is simply asinine.

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#27 DaVillain  Moderator
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@xhawk27 said:

Salty? Hahahahaha GOTY RDR2

Sorry but this kind of practice I hate seeing coming from a company I respected years ago and now, they becoming more greedy by the day. Oh well, I'm sure you'll be happy with the game at least, so there's that.

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#28 drummerdave9099
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Maybe I should buy some Take Two Interactive stock...

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#29  Edited By robert_sparkes
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Collection editions without the game makes no sense. I thought the whole point of a collectors edition was for physical collectors.

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#30 SecretPolice
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Perhaps only HALO 6 is higher on my must play list but this whole thing sounds fudged up to me. I'll buy the base game digitally but that's it.

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#31 robert_sparkes
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Base game for me probably physical.

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#32  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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Should i buy my horse at exotic animals for 2 million$ or from san andreas super animals for 80k? Can i paint it chrome and apply spinning money$ horse shoes?

Do they accept bullshit cards?

Can't wait to grind and upgrade my stable, i'm so excited!!!

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#33 sHaDyCuBe321
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@recloud said:

@sHaDyCuBe321: two SP missions behind paywall... Isn't that the norm these days?

Probably is but it shouldn't be. I wouldn't feel bad about it if they started work on it after the OG game and they wanted to give people more to do after like The Witcher 3 and BotW.

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@i_p_daily said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: So much for all that extra stuff Sony paid for in its marketing deal lol

Lol.

Yeah, I'll be just getting a physical base copy from my local store.

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#35 xantufrog  Moderator
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Rockstar is the best.

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#37 cainetao11
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@R4gn4r0k: That's all I'm spending. Screw this non sense.

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#38  Edited By KungfuKitten
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Seems my fears regarding RDR2 are being realized.

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@drummerdave9099: I've owned some TTWO for years. Last bit i purchased at 97. Closed today at 113.26/share. I was hoping to see a good 120 plus number in Nov and take some profit for Christmas LOL ?.

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#40  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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Wow, what a bunch of cowboys!

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#41  Edited By locopatho
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Physical copy, base game. Get it.

Can anyone remember any "locked" single player content for any game (as opposed to separately available DLC/expansions) that has ever been anything except a poor, shallow bullet-point side quest?

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#42  Edited By robert_sparkes
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I can't not get this game regardless of the paywalls SP DL content. The only way would be to wait for the definitive edition with everything included but that could be a year out.

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#43 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@i_p_daily said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: So much for all that extra stuff Sony paid for in its marketing deal lol

That won't cost extra for gamers.

Phew that exclusive horse armour will remain free, all is well with the world lol.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@i_p_daily said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: So much for all that extra stuff Sony paid for in its marketing deal lol

Lol.

Yeah, I'll be just getting a physical base copy from my local store.

I won't be buying any version as R* are the most overrated developer out there, and their name alone will guarantee mimimun 9's across the board and an easy 10 here.

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#45  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@robert_sparkes said:

I can't not get this game regardless of the paywalls SP DL content. The only way would be to wait for the definitive edition with everything included but that could be a year out.

I know how you feel. I kinda feel the same way. And I urge you to buy the game second hand just like me (or even borrow it from a friend) in the case that we can't resist even though they employ consumer unfriendly tactics like loot boxes. If that is no option for you, then buy it for real cheap from one of the cdkey stores, so that there is less of a chance they get money for it. And if the game is screwed because of anti-consumer practices (and you do play it), then please take the time to review the game on multiple sites so that we can warn other players.

Take Two may be the biggest enemy we as gamers have. EA has at least shown some response. Even Activision is reconsidering some actions. But Take Two has been nonchalantly praising anti-consumer practices all the way to the end. And employing creative ways to screw consumers in GTAV online while getting away with it. I could see them be the next company to be voted worst company of America if they go the extra mile to screw people over with RDR2. But of course, that is all just a hunch and maybe they won't. I really hope they won't. I really want to like this game.

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#46 MuD3
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Buying used confirmed.

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#47  Edited By KungfuKitten
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BTW this means they are effectively selling easy mode for money, exclusive (you won't be able to even buy it later) single player content locked behind a special edition with a special price, and are selling in-game advantages for online play (otherwise known as pay2win). They're also offering ways to slow down their grind. Which implies (not 100% sure) that:

  • They don't care about difficulty or balance.
  • They will make the game extra grindy to make you want to buy items to speed things up (a-la Shadow of War?).
  • There will be ways to pay2win in online play.
    This looks to be going the direction of Battlefront II. So like I said ten times before on SW: buyer beware.