Rare We should have scrapped Kameo

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#1 Vinegar_Strokes
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Xbox 360 launch game Kameo: Elements of Power should not have been released, developer Rare has admitted.

Speaking in an interview with Edge, creative director George Andreas said, "I was on that project from start to finish, so it's quite painful to talk about it in some ways.

"It started as a GameCube project, and it was actually one of the games we demoed at E3 along with the hardware. And then it jumped from GameCube on to Xbox. We changed direction slightly because of the new audience we were trying to aim at.

"We called Kameo an elf, but really she was a fairy," he continued. "We tried to disguise that a few times, but it didn't really work out. It was a game with a fairy for an audience that likes shooting and killing things.

"In hindsight it probably would have been best to scrap everything and start again."

Andreas also revealed that Rare still receives hate mail from Nintendo gamers to this day. The developer was once owned by Nintendo, for whom it made GoldenEye 007, Banjo Kazooie, Perfect Dark and Donkey Kong 64, but was bought out by Microsoft in 2002.

"[The Microsoft deal] happened relatively quickly. It was generally supported company-wide as well. No one was that unhappy that we'd gone with Microsoft."

Design head Gregg Mayles added, "We got [angry] letters every step of the way. Once they got email, it was like opening the floodgates."

"We still get them now," said studio head Mark Betteridge.

Rare's next title is Kinect Sports for Xbox 360, out on 10th November."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-rare-we-should-have-scrapped-kameo

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#3 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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they were best when they were with nintendo, absolutely no debating that. and now they're making casual sports games?
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#4 Animal-Mother
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This is really damn old.

like a month or more.


Sorry :(

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#5 ohthemanatee
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I liked Kameo
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#6 locopatho
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Kameo was cool. Dunno what to say to them, it was a great game, sold a fair bit... Whats the problem like.
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#7 Raymundo_Manuel
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they were best when they were with nintendo, absolutely no debating that. and now they're making casual sports games?paullywog

They were losing members way before MS ever gained control of them.


They would be of the same quality now if they were still with Nintendo. You just can't easily replace members of the once God-Like Rareware that easily.

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#8 Thunderdrone
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I made this thread a long time ago :P
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#9 slvrraven9
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when will people learn to accept reality and move on? fanboys are so rediculous..
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#10 LegatoSkyheart
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Rare.....Shut up and START MAKING SOME GAMES DANG IT!

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#11 Riverwolf007
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what a nutty thing to say kameo was a great game.

the first time i saw what it looked like and rode through the hundreds of onscreen orcs i was all wow next gen is going to rock if this is a launch title.

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Their biggest problem here, is assuming that the entire Xbox fanbase is actually interested in just shooting and killing things. I thought Kameo was a breath of fresh air on the 360, as was Nuts & Bolts, and helped bring a variety to the console that it sorely lacks most of the time.

Rare is dead. They dropped the Kameo (and I hear Conker) sequel for Kinect projects. They have been good after the move from Nintendo (no matter what Nintendo fanboys will tell you)... but they are dead now.

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#13 sikanderahmed
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this is old news and kameo was a great game

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#14 mitu123
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Give me KI3 and I forgive you.:P

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#15 RawDeal_basic
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They don't have the talent to make a quality game so they blame the consumers.

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..lol@last line next game Kinect sports...XD will this have online?
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#17 LegatoSkyheart
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Their biggest problem here, is assuming that the entire Xbox fanbase is actually interested in just shooting and killing things. I thought Kameo was a breath of fresh air on the 360, as was Nuts & Bolts, and helped bring a variety to the console that it sorely lacks most of the time.

Rare is dead. They dropped the Kameo (and I hear Conker) sequel for Kinect projects. They have been good after the move from Nintendo (no matter what Nintendo fanboys will tell you)... but they are dead now.

foxhound_fox

I absolutly hated that game.

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#18 slvrraven9
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I liked Kameoohthemanatee
i never played it but everyone i know who has, has already told me that its pretty good
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#19 king_bobo
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Is he indirectly saying that 360-owners are narrow-minded? :O "It was a game with a fairy for an audience that likes shooting and killing things."
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#20 king_bobo
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They don't have the talent to make a quality game so they blame the consumers.

RawDeal_basic
Harsh words, bruh. They've made some stellar games this generation. Admittedly, they've been going downhill, but the Kameo time was probably their best.
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#21 deangallop
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Is he indirectly saying that 360-owners are narrow-minded? :O "It was a game with a fairy for an audience that likes shooting and killing things."king_bobo

360's launch audience was pretty narrow minded.

It has expanded since then though.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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I absolutly hated that game.

LegatoSkyheart


And I absolutely hated Super Mario Galaxy. Doesn't stop them from being good games.

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#23 Lionheart08
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Yeah, this is pretty old TC.

I thought Kameo was okay. I also thought she was Fairy when i played it and didn't mind. I honesty didn't know she was "elf."

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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I absolutly hated that game.

foxhound_fox


And I absolutely hated Super Mario Galaxy. Doesn't stop them from being good games.

Different Folks, Different Strokes.

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#25 Truth_Hurts_U
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I loved Kameo... So they can go to you know where.

No wounder we never got Kameo 2. Because they didn't wanna do it.

R.I.P.

Kameo

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#26 LegatoSkyheart
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I loved Kameo... So they can go to you know where.

No wounder we never got Kameo 2. Because they didn't wanna do it.

R.I.P.

Kameo

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a lot of us burried all of Rare's Classics a long time ago.

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#27 tomarlyn
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Still getting hate mail? Baby Jesus is crying
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#28 olart4618
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I love kameo, I hope KI3 soon!!!:P

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#29 OreoMilkshake
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I'm glad they didn't scrap it. :)
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#30 mitu123
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I love kameo, I hope KI3 soon!!!:P

olart4618

Yes, I agree with that.

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#31 StealthSting
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I made this thread a long time ago :PThunderdrone

Yeah I was trying to remember who made it...

Anyway, I don't know what's worse. The Nintendo fandom mail or how they had to hide the fact she was a fairy to the xbox crowd... it's hilariously ridiculous and sad at the same time--ambivalence kicking in. It really puts into perspective the kind of audience developers think they generally have on their hands.

Did their games really sell that bad on 360? I remember hearing that the numbers weren't bad at all--might be wrong.

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#32 kuu2
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One of the best new IPs this gen and they are saying they should not have made it. Why do people out think themselves?