"Xbox is run by mostly middle managers with no gaming experience" - Tr

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#1 Posted by PSP107 (17523 posts) -

"Gamertag Radio interviews Trixie, an ex-Xbox employee about her new novel, the reason why she left Microsoft and much more.

*"Xbox is run by mostly middle managers with no gaming experience"
*"Xbox left J Allard"
*Xbox Community
*Xbox Live Gold member vs ads
*The reason why Inside Xbox failed

Xbox conversation starts at 25:04."

http://www.gamertagradio.com/new/2012/10/episode-358-exclusive-podcast-interview-with-christa-charter-aka-trixie360/

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#2 Posted by Meeeper282 (1597 posts) -

This is actually a brilliant idea by microsoft.. now here me out for a second.

The 360 community has no gaming experience because well.. xbox got no gamezzz, so they hire people with the same qualifications, it's brilliant!!

Microsoft does it again

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20 (82724 posts) -
This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.
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#4 Posted by Cheleman (8198 posts) -

This is pretty much common knowledge.

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#5 Posted by navyguy21 (15260 posts) -

Im pretty sure Sony and Sega were similar. Ninty is the only company that is run by people who love to game.

Microsoft is working on that problem. Hiring Phil Spencer was a huge plus

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#6 Posted by platniumgamer (3960 posts) -

do not care.

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#7 Posted by Rocker6 (13358 posts) -

Gaming is bussiness...

I think it's fair to assume same can be said about nearly every high-profile name in the gaming industry, MS, Sony, Ninty, EA, Ubisoft, Acti, etc...

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#8 Posted by j_assassin (1011 posts) -
Well if ms is being run by someone who have a passion for gaming, then it probably wouldnt sell as much but gamers will be happy
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#9 Posted by SolidTy (49991 posts) -

Well, the 360, despite it's hardware problems, accrued fantastic software and put it in a spectacular place in gaming history. It's a good product, so next gen will be very interesting as they have a lot more fans to transition to next generation.

However, I did notice that the beginning of this generation vs. 360 today, there are less gaming creative visionaries around. It's something I hope they continue to rectify. The 360 started with an explosion due to those visionaries, and it sort of went on cruise control mid-gen (2008-2009 is when the transition started). Middle managers do come in and don't understand gaming, and certainly don't want to learn. They are there to profit. The issue is finding a balance between creative types and the suits. It's a balancing act.

I am listening to this podcast, but I'm still not done. She did bring up Bach, Allard, and other tid bits. I'm interested to hear Trixie360's (Christa Charter) perspective after working there and deciding to leave. Some of you might know her from 'Inside Xbox' which was cancelled. She left before it was cancelled though. In the podcast, she blames the new UI as it hid 'Inside Xbox' in lieu of advertisers. She says the new dashboard made it so "Inside Xbox" got poor traffic, and therefore caused cancellation. A shame she isn't gaming much anymore. She also was sad about the loss of Gamerscore blog, and she wishes ads were reserved for Silver, and she thinks Gold members should get the choice to be ad free. She feels community fell to the wayside once profitability was achieved. She wrote the booklets for Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Voodoo Vince, as well as a lot of Xbox Booklets/tech manuals.


There is a lot of things right and wrong with every company. It's all about balance.

Thanks for the post.

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#10 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

This is actually a brilliant idea by microsoft.. now here me out for a second.

The 360 community has no gaming experience because well.. xbox got no gamezzz, so they hire people with the same qualifications, it's brilliant!!

Microsoft does it again

Meeeper282

OK... that was actually funny. Good job.

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#11 Posted by getyeryayasout (12510 posts) -
The CEO's from the other companies can barely get any work done because they're wiped-out from all night Quake Arena LAN parties. You should see it, Tretton's mouse is covered in Cheeto dust, and Regie just drank his fourth RedBull. These guys love gaming, not like those MS 'suits' who are only in it for the money.
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#12 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

glad to see so many people finally realizing the truth. MS and the Xbox brand are the cancer of gaming.

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#13 Posted by speedfog (4965 posts) -

This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.charizard1605

This pretty much.

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#14 Posted by Click_Clock (3632 posts) -

The Xbox 360 is the top selling console for over 22 months straight in North America and in terms of world wide sales, its in 2nd place, far ahead of the PlayStation 3. I think the Xbox 360 is doing quite well from a company that "have no gaming experience."Now using the logic if Microsoft gained "gaming experience" from this generation would they be in first place next generation? Since without it, Microsoft easily secured 2nd place.

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#15 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8541 posts) -

Weird that MS's Xbox can sell more game software than any other console.

It really shows just how out of touch the other two companies must be.

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#16 Posted by danish-death (5314 posts) -
This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.charizard1605
It haven't really been kicking ass the recent years though? If anything they both appear equal with the Xbox 360 having gained the upper hand the first couple of years. :)
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#17 Posted by parkurtommo (28295 posts) -

360 got no games, or gamers.

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#18 Posted by danish-death (5314 posts) -

The Xbox 360 is the top selling console for over 22 months straight in North America and in terms of world wide sales, its in 2nd place, far ahead of the PlayStation 3. I think the Xbox 360 is doing quite well from a company that "have no gaming experience."Now using the logic if Microsoft gained "gaming experience" from this generation would they be in first place next generation? Since without it, Microsoft easily secured 2nd place.

Click_Clock
Yes keep on dreaming this will happen :p I personally think we'll see the big N on the first place again followed by MS and Sony both on the second place, more or less
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#19 Posted by soulitane (15091 posts) -

Weird that MS can sell more game software than any other console.

It really shows just how out of touch the other two companies must be.

Ly_the_Fairy
They do? I was under the impression that Nintendo games sold more than MS's.
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#20 Posted by PAL360 (29620 posts) -

Microsoft is a joke, but thanks to second and third party devs, 360 is an awesaome console.

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#21 Posted by ultimate-k (2348 posts) -

So that why it has no games then. KINECT KINECT KINECT!

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#22 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8531 posts) -

Not surprising. Everybody with functioning brain cells knows that Xbox 360 is garbage.

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#23 Posted by delta3074 (19976 posts) -
Seems to have done pretty well regardless.
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#24 Posted by kaealy (2178 posts) -
If Xbox is being ran by mostly middle managers and doing as well as they are, what is Sony being ran by then with all moronic decisions and the economic situation?
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#25 Posted by delta3074 (19976 posts) -
If Xbox is being ran by mostly middle managers and doing as well as they are, what is Sony being ran by then with all moronic decisions and the economic situation? kaealy
good point actually.
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#26 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -
People do realize that the end of the prior gen plays a role in the perception of the up and coming one, right?
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#27 Posted by RR360DD (14099 posts) -
So whats Sony run by? Middle mokneys with no common sense?
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#28 Posted by todd2r_Partdeux (762 posts) -
If Xbox is being run by idiots, then what's Sony being run by? Women?
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#29 Posted by deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd (12449 posts) -

Welcome to common knowledge of the gaming industry in general. Time to look at things like an adult.

Edit - This is a VERY common problem within software development as a whole, where project managers are not even programmers/designers ect.

Management is often a seperate career path now and encouraged for reasons I don't understand.

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#30 Posted by OhSnapitz (19282 posts) -

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...I'll take the middle managers with no gaming experience.

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#31 Posted by Bruce_Benzing (1731 posts) -

If Xbox is being run by idiots, then what's Sony being run by? Women? todd2r_Partdeux
Trained chimpanzees. EDIT: with an IT department run by cardboard cutouts of Kevin Butler....

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#32 Posted by TheDidact (3986 posts) -
Well obviously. Do you actually believe people like Don Mattrick are actually avid gamers? :lol: Sony is the same way too cows. Except their management is more openly arrogant with quotes such as:
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#33 Posted by Newhopes (4775 posts) -

They've wiped out the losses caused by the frist Xbox and made decent profits and market gain with the 360, so what exactly is the problem?

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#34 Posted by immortality20 (8546 posts) -

And when Sony got in the market there wasn't many people with gaming experience either. If MS is just sumbling along with middle managers, then they're doing a very damn good job.

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#35 Posted by Eddie-Vedder (7810 posts) -
This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.charizard1605
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.
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#36 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
It shows. Just like lems had no gaming experience before the Xbox shows as well. That's why they don't care about games. They support the 360 using sales like a middle manager will lol. They learned well the rodents.
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#37 Posted by deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd (12449 posts) -
I find it quite funny that the cows are attacking the lemmings about games, when overall the 360 has more games than the ps3. Oh sure, you get some "ok" exclusives every now and then, but to say xbox gamers arn't gamers when their attachment rate is higher is hilarious. trolling or just dull, scratch that trolling is dull.
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#38 Posted by delta3074 (19976 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.Eddie-Vedder
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

The 360 has more high rated games than the Ps3 and more games overall and the 360 outsold the Ps3 worldwide last year and is also ahead of the Ps3 in overall harware sales, you really talk some rubbish sometimes eddie.
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#39 Posted by TheDidact (3986 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.Eddie-Vedder
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

You're sig basically sums up your post. :lol:
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#40 Posted by delta3074 (19976 posts) -
It shows. Just like lems had no gaming experience before the Xbox shows as well. That's why they don't care about games. They support the 360 using sales like a middle manager will lol. They learned well the rodents.kuraimen
i have been gaming for 27 years, Xbox 360 is my weapon of choice, you don't even have any current gen gaming experience dude, if lems didn't care about games then why did they choose the system with the most games, your statements have no basis in reality,lol
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#41 Posted by PAL360 (29620 posts) -

It shows. Just like lems had no gaming experience before the Xbox shows as well. That's why they don't care about games. They support the 360 using sales like a middle manager will lol. They learned well the rodents.kuraimen

I started gaming in 87 on a ZX Spectrum and never stopped gaming since then. I also was a proud owner of Playstation 1 and 2, btw :o :P

Now, as a 32 year old games, i find Xbox 360 to be a better gaming system than PS3 in basically any way. Games, support, services...

What now?

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#42 Posted by OhSnapitz (19282 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It shows. Just like lems had no gaming experience before the Xbox shows as well. That's why they don't care about games. They support the 360 using sales like a middle manager will lol. They learned well the rodents.delta3074
i have been gaming for 27 years, Xbox 360 is my weapon of choice, you don't even have any current gen gaming experience dude, if lems didn't care about games then why did they choose the system with the most games, your statements have no basis in reality,lol

Dude.. never argue with an idiot. they'll drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
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#43 Posted by PAL360 (29620 posts) -

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.delta3074
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

The 360 has more high rated games than the Ps3 and more games overall and the 360 outsold the Ps3 worldwide last year and is also ahead of the Ps3 in overall harware sales, you really talk some rubbish sometimes eddie.

Facts are cow´s biggest enemies, they never help their cause. You should know that by now :P

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#44 Posted by skrat_01 (33767 posts) -
From what I know Microsoft gaming divisions management changed dramatically over the Xbox 360's lifetime, or so that's what has been iterated from various sources, Giant Bomb to Gamasutra. The people in charge now are very different to those in 2006. Looking at the changes, I'd believe it.
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#45 Posted by tormentos (29239 posts) -
This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.charizard1605
The wii won didn't it.? There is no second place trophies or achievements you either win or loss,and they both loss.
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#46 Posted by todd2r_Partdeux (762 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.Eddie-Vedder
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

Charizard isn't even a lem. He's the biggest Nintendo fanboy on the boards. Just because he hates Playstation doesn't make him a lem.
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#47 Posted by Meeeper282 (1597 posts) -

This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.charizard1605

U fail as a sheep

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#48 Posted by OhSnapitz (19282 posts) -
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.todd2r_Partdeux
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

Charizard isn't even a lem. He's the biggest Nintendo fanboy on the boards. Just because he hates Playstation doesn't make him a lem.

Losing 2012 must have hit the cows harder than I thought.. :lol:
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#49 Posted by TheDidact (3986 posts) -
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]This explains why it kicked the PS3's ass.todd2r_Partdeux
By kicking it's ass you mean getting outsold and releasing less games and winning less awards? Lems are hilarious.

Charizard isn't even a lem. He's the biggest Nintendo fanboy on the boards. Just because he hates Playstation doesn't make him a lem.

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#50 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It shows. Just like lems had no gaming experience before the Xbox shows as well. That's why they don't care about games. They support the 360 using sales like a middle manager will lol. They learned well the rodents.PAL360

I started gaming in 87 on a ZX Spectrum and never stopped gaming since then. I also was a proud owner of Playstation 1 and 2, btw :o :P

Now, as a 32 year old games, i find Xbox 360 to be a better gaming system than PS3 in basically any way. Games, support, services...

What now?

Well no one is perfect. Some people grow up to be misguided all their lives.