"X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overal

The guy contradicted himself in the first three sentences.  Sony Devs are better programmers.Chutebox

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Here is the full quote from a user in neogaf. - "Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen."

 

What this means is that all the fanboy arguments this gen were really dumb. 90% of multiplats looked better on 360 because it has always been the more powerful hardware. 

The PS4 is more powerful than the X1 but in the end it will not matter because when you see a game's graphics you don't see the technical back end. You only see the pretty colors and such and all of that is subjective. 

In conclusion, expect another 10 years of fanboy wars even though it's clear as day that PS4 is more powerful than X1 just as the 360 has always been significantly more powerful than the PS3. 

Link - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80542977&postcount=399

kinectthedots

The xbox360 had a stronger GPU the PS3 a stronger CPU who doesn't know this already.

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 And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us.

Xplode_games

And it would look even better if it was on the more powerful Xbox 360. 

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]The guy contradicted himself in the first three sentences.  Sony Devs are better programmers.Couth_

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]The guy contradicted himself in the first three sentences.  Sony Devs are better programmers.rjdofu

so yeah in comparison: 343 vs all of these studios i'd call that a little lacking m8

Who cares about last gen

Here is the full quote from a user in neogaf. - "Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen."

 

What this means is that all the fanboy arguments this gen were really dumb. 90% of multiplats looked better on 360 because it has always been the more powerful hardware. 

The PS4 is more powerful than the X1 but in the end it will not matter because when you see a game's graphics you don't see the technical back end. You only see the pretty colors and such and all of that is subjective. 

In conclusion, expect another 10 years of fanboy wars even though it's clear as day that PS4 is more powerful than X1 just as the 360 has always been significantly more powerful than the PS3. 

Link - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80542977&postcount=399

Xplode_games

I don't fully agree. The 360 was more powerful in terms of the GPU and memory, but the PS3 had a better CPU. The reason Sony Santa Monica and Naughty Dog's games look so good is mostly down to the talent of those studios and the care and budget that they were able to put into their games. They likely could have achieved similar results on the 360.

The PS4 is more powerful based on everything we know about the two consoles, and we will see this power difference in games. Remember the PS4 isn't an unwieldly architecture like the PS3 was.

That said, this also means that individual games on the XB1 could graphically exceed games on the PS4 if the right care, talent and budget are put behind them. Right now I think Ryse is as impressive as anything we have seen on the PS4, but I expect over time the PS4 will get exclusives from Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica that will likely surpass most other console games.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="Couth_"] This. Sony devs made better looking games on weaker hardware. Sony devs will make better looking games on the stronger hardware as wellCouth_

so yeah in comparison: 343 vs all of these studios i'd call that a little lacking m8

Sucker Punch have yet to prove themselves in that regard. The first Infamous game was one of the uglier games I played on consoles, while Infamous 2 was merely average looking. 

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Not like MS lacks talented devs though, Gears 3 graphics rivaled with ND games and Halo 4 looked great. Nonetheless, it's useless to pick the winner from the 2 within the first few years, since anything can happen later on, when devs get the hang of the system.kalipekona

so yeah in comparison: 343 vs all of these studios i'd call that a little lacking m8

Sucker Punch have yet to prove themselves in that regard. The first Infamous game was one of the uglier games I played on consoles, while Infamous 2 was merely average looking. 

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[QUOTE="Couth_"] Gears 3 was made by Epic, not Microsoft. Sony's top graphical developers would be SCEA San Diego, Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Guerilla and Sucker Punch. IIRC Turn 10 outsources their car models for Forza

so yeah in comparison: 343 vs all of these studios i'd call that a little lacking m8

rjdofu

Sucker Punch have yet to prove themselves in that regard. The first Infamous game was one of the uglier games I played on consoles, while Infamous 2 was merely average looking. 

That's true. Infamous 2 was a good improvement over Infamous and Second Son does look quite good based on what I can tell from videos. I still need to play it before I come to any real conclusions about the overall graphical achievement. 

360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonhippiesanta

MGS4? Many games on both consoles look better than MGS4.

360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonhippiesanta

Lol @ Heavy Rain

Heavy Rain looked awful in a lot of parts.

Is this some kind of an attempt to make it sound that the xbox one games will look better than the PS4 games? "Just wait"Sollet

No, just stating facts that clear up some of the falsehoods that have been spread on this board for years. 

The Xbox 360 is not only easier to program for but also MORE POWERFUL than the PS3. This is an indisputable FACT!

The PS4 is more powerful than the X1. Again this is a fact but no one is arguing otherwise so I don't emphasize the point. 

360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonhippiesanta

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonGuy_Brohski

then why hasnt ms won graphics king since 2009? you dont find it strange that MS is "letting" sony win 4 years in a row?

I think everybody that isn't a fanboy already knew this. 360 hardware is better than PS3 hardware. 90% of MultiPlat games confirm this and multi plats have Always been the way console power was guaged. Only this gen the delusional rabid fanboys tried to change those rules. FACT: XB 360 > PS3 in graphics.

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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonxxgunslingerxx

then why hasnt ms won graphics king since 2009? you dont find it strange that MS is "letting" sony win 4 years in a row?

The Artistic nature of Graphics is greater than the Technical level of graphics. That is why some Wii games look great.

Here is the full quote from a user in neogaf. - "Think about it this way. X360 is faster than PS3. Not just easier to program on, it's faster overall (although PS is faster/better in SOME areas). And yet no exclusive on X360 looks like The Last of Us. Halo 4 looks great. Gears blew my mind in 2006. And still, the best looking AAA game of this generation belongs to the supposedly weaker platform.

So if you think that the war is over because PS4 is 50% faster TODAY, then you're delusional. This is far from over, and will probably never be over, at least not this upcoming gen."

What this means is that all the fanboy arguments this gen were really dumb. 90% of multiplats looked better on 360 because it has always been the more powerful hardware.

The PS4 is more powerful than the X1 but in the end it will not matter because when you see a game's graphics you don't see the technical back end. You only see the pretty colors and such and all of that is subjective.

In conclusion, expect another 10 years of fanboy wars even though it's clear as day that PS4 is more powerful than X1 just as the 360 has always been significantly more powerful than the PS3.

Link - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80542977&postcount=399

Xplode_games

Your conclusions are erroneous. MUltiplats ran better on 360 because it was easier to write for, and the platform was very similar to a PC. THe PS3 is it's own animal, so a lot of the source code had to be re-written for it. That's why 360 multiplats ran better - it had nothing to do with hardware performance.

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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonxxgunslingerxx

then why hasnt ms won graphics king since 2009? you dont find it strange that MS is "letting" sony win 4 years in a row?

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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"]360 can't handle games like Uncharted, TLOU, Heavy Rain and MGS4... remember tortoise vs the Bunny race .... the tortoise wonxxgunslingerxx

then why hasnt ms won graphics king since 2009? you dont find it strange that MS is "letting" sony win 4 years in a row?

I could care less about neogaf. Bias trolling developers are almost as bad as cows.

I could care less about neogaf. Bias trolling developers are almost as bad as cows.

blackace

WTF....

So developer are bias because they call it like they see it.?

So Anandtech and Arstechnica are biased to right.?

But you are not right.?