Questions For Those Who Have inFamous: Second Son

I'm going to get this game on Friday, as it looks hella' fun to play based on gameplay footage I've seen of it. However, I have a few questions about it.

1. Does combat feel clunky and chaotic? I've played the first inFamous and hated the entire game, especially the combat, which felt like an unorganized mess (i.e. running around back and forth while firing at multiple enemies). Furthermore, I didn't find firing energy beams as gratifying as firing guns, such as in shooters.
2. Can any of the buildings in the city be entered? If so, what percentage would you estimate can?
3. How great is the draw distance? Is it the greatest out of all console games?
4. How jarring is it that Delsin does not cast shadows, and what other graphical effects are missing?

EDIT:

Picked up a copy about twenty minutes ago from GameStop.

Combat is definitely chaotic, but the controls are tight and precise.

I can't really think of any buildings you can enter besides the ones related to quests.

The draw distance is fantastic, you can see the entire city if the weather's nice and you're up high enough.

Dont know what you are talking about, Deslin does cast a shadow. If you are referring to not every light source in the game casting a shadow, I never noticed it in my two playthroughs. Can't think of any effects missing, I'm pretty sure it has almost all modern graphical effects.

@BluRayHiDef: Trolling?

It's just like other infamous games and I never even noticed the missing shadow. You cannot enter any buildings.

The combat is as fluid as can be.

You cannot go into any of the buildings.

The draw distace is the best I've ever seen.

He does cast shadows, just not from every light source.

I dunno why people thought Delsin didn't have a shadow, shadows are pretty cool in this game and Delsin even has reflections off certain objects.

I wasn't trolling; I read that here on these boards.

Combat is just like the others.

No inside buildings

Great draw distance

There are shadows and the particle effects are amazing. Graphics wise the game is a bit inconsistent like all Sony first party games, Some areas of the game look so good and other areas seem rushed and not as polished imo.

@BluRayHiDef: If you believe everything you read on these boards then I have a bridge to sell you.

The combat is a hell of a lot better than the previous games in my opinion, the ability to quickly dash around the environment means battles can play out in bigger areas. To me it feels like a mix of Prototype and the good bits of Infamous.

You only enter a few buildings in story missions, hardly an issue though because the combat would be terrible in confined spaces.

Draw distance is great, textures get a little flat after a distance but the way they handle distant cars and pedestrians is some of the best I've seen, there's no height where everything becomes "fake" like in GTA4/5, even on the highest building you can still see tiny little pedestrians and real cars.

He does cast shadows. In certain lights his shadow can kind of be drowned out by the light reflecting on the ground which is why it sometimes look like there are no shadows.

The lighting effects and draw distance are among the best I've ever seen outside of a pc mod.

The building situation, there are none to enter and I don't think the camera is up to it anyway. But it's not a big deal, the city is large enough. It's a good game. It's the 8 I predicted it to be. The combat is decent if not the best I've ever seen. The graphics are superb. The story is okay, not great. It's worth getting certainly. I like the various powers so far. Smoke and Neon, it's a good idea. Never seen it before.

How does the combat compare to that of the Batman Arkham games?

I'm no Infamous Fanboy so I'm not biased

1. Minor improvement in combat. Still feels like smashing square button missing most of the enemies and firing R1 missiles that are very weak. But climbing buildings have been made very fun and easy now without having to constantly mash the X button for a slow monkey climb. You can climb up any building using powers within seconds. Though the dive bomb is very weak and only effects the enemies in the direction that you landed, the surrounding enemies aren't affected at all

2. No buildings are enterable, since this isn't a GTA clone and never will be. There's no need for clothing stores, eating, dragging people out of vehicles, etc

3. Draw distance is covered by a depth of field blur like in previous Infamous games. This is just how the developers work their engine

4. Delsin casts shadows on most lights, just not on some car headlights. But shadows are the least of worries when you witness the best particle effects so far seen on current gen consoles. And the lighting, foliage are the best matching E3 Watch Dog

@BluRayHiDef: I prefer the combat in Arkham but then this game has absolutely no stealth whatsoever and just isn't as sophisticated all around. But then you're asking the wrong guy, I'm biased towards Batman. Nothing much compares. It's a 10/10 game for me.

Combat wise, I've seen worse, but it certainly isn't something to write home about. You can go at things in a number of ways, you can choose between the skill sets, and one thing in its favour is ever action has a moral implication. So if you headshot someone with a neon bolt it's a bad action, you're killing them. Go for the kneecaps and you're subduing them, so you're heroic. I like that. It forces you to have good aim. Likewise watching out for innocents.

I've noticed the game has a few flaws like there isn't a lot of variety in the other people, and it's sometimes difficult to control. The climbing mechanism has been done a lot better. But I've just had a real fun day with it just unlocking everything and I admit I enjoyed it a lot more than the previous one so it gets a lot right.

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Mmh, Combat is chaotic alright, mostly saved by the decent controls, it is not the chaotic nature of the combat that would put many people off.

As others have stated I have yet to find any Buildings that are enterable, well story tied Buildings can but not much else sofar.

Drawdistance is good, as good as you could expect I suppose, certainly better then feared.

As for shadows? most lights does cast shadows, a few does not. Not gamebreaking, and havent playied it with the latest patch, so don't know if anything has changed.

What people have not mentioned, is how "floaty" it all feels, not controlwise but enginewise. It feels like you have no weight, and neither does your attacks feel like they have alot of weight. very few evenies feels like they have weight either. Example jumping up the side of a Building looks like some impossible task with what seems like a stuck animation, and you can pretty much jump up most sides nomatter if you can get a grip on it. It looks rather odd. Attacks sertainly lack impacts, and wailing around with the melee key is Little better then the ranged attacks.

Overall It is a game I think is well enough made, and one you almost have to buy if you have a PS4, the best of the exclusives so far. It has alot of good points, but certainly not flawless by any stretch, a great game but pleagued by small oversights and flaws.

Wow! This paragraph describes the problems I had with the original inFamous so well. Now, I'm a bit skeptical about getting it. Damn.

great game, gonna play it again whem im done with Dark Souls 2 and FFX HD

1. it doesn't feel clunky at all, but it IS chaotic. After all, it's a sequel meant for fans of the last games.

2. You really don't enter any buildings unless it's part of the plot.

3. Pretty damn good. Dunno about the best, though.

4. Delsin casts shadows pretty much whenever you'd expect him to. Some sources don't apparently, but it must only be a few because I've never noticed.

Troll confirmed. Get a ps4, son, if you want to play this game so bad.

You should get one as well.

Everyone knows you're a phony

Other than the trolls, everyone pretty much answered your questions. Simply put, Infamous Second Son is the best current gen exclusive on any platform at the moment. If you own a PS4 and don't own Infamous SS right now you are doing it wrong.

1. Does combat feel clunky and chaotic? I've played the first inFamous and hated the entire game, especially the combat, which felt like an unorganized mess (i.e. running around back and forth while firing at multiple enemies). Furthermore, I didn't find firing energy beams as gratifying as firing guns, such as in shooters.

• The combat is very enjoyable. But you'll have to play it yourself to see if you like it or not.

1. Can any of the buildings in the city be entered? If so, what percentage would you estimate can?

• No. Most if not all of the buildings are there for aesthetics only. The only few buildings you can enter are story related.

1. How great is the draw distance? Is it the greatest out of all console games?

• The draw distance is pretty damn good, but you'll notice a "blurry" back drop with the mountains, ect.. but still pretty impressive.

1. How jarring is it that Delsin does not cast shadows, and what other graphical effects are missing?

• Honestly. The action is so frantic you may not even notice. I did even notice the "puddles" until mid-way through the game. There are a lot of other effects going on.. it's not a deal breaker.

Bottom line it's a great game (the best in the PS4's library IMHO).

Because there's people showing an instance on top of a building where he doesn't. The game looks and plays great to me.

It would be awesome if cars could be driven in this game, even though such a capability does not suit the style of the game.

not to mention it'd be extraordinary lame. It'd be about as pathetic as

Good game. I beat it once and I'm looking forward to beating it Evil a second time through.

1. Depends on how you play. Play by mashing or going head first into combat and it's chaotic, sit back a little more, consider your approach, where to refuel/switch powers, how to make the most of different powers, which enemy to hit first (certain ones can re-heal and shield their allies) and it's much more organised. It's no longer clunky too, movement is easier and smoother, shooting is tidier and there's more variety in the way things shoot.

2. There is one but it's more cutscene like and it's accessed via the story, there's a few story related areas that are more enclosed but still kind of out-doorsy.

3. Draw distance is great, best on console definitely. There's not really an instance on PC i can recall that offers anything better bar fiddling with commands to force it.

4. It's not noticeable, all the light sources you notice will cast shadows. It's never obvious, you'd have to put some effort into standing there and thinking about it to even notice it. There's nothing missing i can think of but the water effects on the ocean are fairly meh but you only see the properly in the first mission.

Anyway enjoy it, make the most of switching between the powers as i only did that in the second run and it plays infinitely better that way. Graphically it's great, the high IQ makes everything nice and clean and the level of detail is really stupid. It certainly felt to me like there was something new in every shop or building window, some new graffiti in an alley way etc...

I played through in one night. The next day I sold it to the lowest bidder on ebay.

1) Its somewhat smoother.... but very shallow. the powers are better than previous games and the flow of using them. still, your complaints are still in the game, lazers ect over guns... running back n fore. sounds about right. the game is a joke even on Expert though.

2) no... none. (well other than story events)

3) Great draw distance for a console game, one of the things I was impressed with.

4) ... honestly, dont notice.... the game looks good and the lighting/shadows are good.... don't take everything here literally.

Overall... a nice tech demo shallow hero action game. if your looking for a sandbox game with alot of things to do... this isn't it. Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag absolutely destroys it overall.

Picked up a copy about twenty minutes ago from GameStop.

@BluRayHiDef: combat is tighter than remember me which is good thing both games were fantastic btw.

Edit: nice

I'm absolutely loving the game. On my second playthrough right now(evil). I really like that they let you use the unlocked vest from the beginning. I'm using the Cole jacket, looks better with the evil path.

DLC better get here soon. Did you get all of the audio logs. That better not be just a tease. I want all of them powers.

Yes, I found every shard and did every log. I got Platinums in the other two Infamous games, so I will be doing the same for this one. All I have to do is beat it on Evil/Expert for the Platinum to pop. Every extra thing I needed to do, I did...my problem is time. I don't HAVE ENOUGH OF IT!!! lol.

What little time I do have, goes between family, friends, TV, movies, and some backlog games and Infamous. I can't wait to tear through it one more time. It's like a bowl of icecream, no way I'm going to eat it fast, I want to savor every morsel.

People are racing to the end of the game, but then what? We have months before the next game so I'm going slow and thankfully my backlog helps (Plus PS+ free PS4 games like Mercenary Kings are distracting on their own!)

I like to think I'm taking my sweet time with it. :P I'm liking the random DUP missions after completion. Trying different ways of taking them apart, with the powers.

I'm at the Space Needle mission on my evil run. I've given up with my backlog. Well not completely, but I have a list of the crucial games I plan on playing, the rest I'll likely never bother with again.

Whats you fav power?

I like Neon the best as well. Running up buildings is a blast. Video is cool but I don't like having to hit circle repeatedly to go up buildings, but being able to glide-fly is neat. I LOVE the invisibility it provided. Rock isn't that cool to me, it's alright but I got it so late...Smoke is aight as well, but getting around the city just is too slow other than using pipes.

I also did some of those Paper missions, hopefully that turns into a power. :P

Wow! This game is amazing in just about every way. The graphics, the story and writing, and especially the gameplay are all top notch. I'm very impressed.

• Graphics: Texture resolutions are high and subsequently everything looks sharp and crisp. Colors are vibrant and cover just about the entire spectrum. The game is very easy on the eyes.
• The Story: I like the fact that an experience with a conduit, Brooke Augustine, serves as the catalyst for the story (i.e. Brooke fatally embedding shards of concrete into people's bones, which can be removed only by someone with her power).
• Writing: The writing is quite clever. I like when Brooke says that only a coward or someone who has something to hide is nervous, and then concludes that Delsin had something to hide when he demonstrated a lack of nervousness. I found this to be brilliant.
• The gameplay is fluid and dynamic, especially the combat. There are so many attacks and maneuvers, that fighting is a blast.

I love this game and am barely through it. 10/10 so far.

Xboners, eat your hearts out, babies!

This is the best superhero game ever created

I wouldn't give it a 10, but game is bad ass.

Combat is frenetic and chaotic, but you feel in control at all times. So much better than the first in that each attack has meaning now. What i mean is after i leveled up powers a bit, my stronger attacks could stagger even the powerful enemies. Add to that upgrading them enough makes you really feel in control. I agree with the floaty feel though, sometimes it feels like Delsin is floating above the ground while running. Not a problem when you are powered up since you can just run up buildings or at least dash up them.

No interiors in the game but if Prototype 2 is any example, its probably a good thing.

Draw distance is crazy good

Its honestly hard to notice no shadows from Delsin while playing. His powers and the environment lights up everything so much that it would be wasted resources to attempt to do shadowing from all those light sources. He has a shadow on the ground and when he moves around objects. If i hadnt read it on forums i probably wouldnt have noticed

The game is awesome, like most SONY exclusives.

lol no Arkham games are garbage button mashers. Voice acting/dialogue are the only good things about the Arkham games

I have to agree, and I've played a bunch of them including the Arkham series(one of the most well received hero games), wolverine(which was pretty good), the spider man games, Iron man games, you name em.

The thing I enjoy about the Arkham series is the detective/using the gadgets, the combat itself just doesn't do it for me. Reminds me of AC, and you know that isn't good.

I'm glad you liked it. Would like to know your thoughts on the other powers.

Yes, the electric boxes are inviting, haha.

One of the neat things about the series is our imagination is on tap on what Sucker Punch will do next power wise. :P