PUBG is 60fps on PS5 and XSX, but only 30fps on Series S

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-26-pubg-is-60fps-on-xbox-series-x-but-30fps-on-xbox-series-s

I guess this shouldn't be surprising, but to people who are hyping up Series S, do you think it's worth the price when you know that performance is already going to be an issue?

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Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

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@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

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Only 60 for a game released nearly 4 years ago?

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#5 regnaston
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In this case it is because the Series X uses the X1X version of the game which will have the frame rate priority setting and the Series S will use the X1 version of the game which will not have the frame rate priority. It is about backwards compatibility

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#6  Edited By SecretPolice  Online
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@davillain- said:
@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

It's up to the devs. Some good 3rd party devs out there, some not so good. What ya gonna do I mean since we pretty much know the CPU in both X & S are not too different. :P

PS: Also from the article...

"We are working to provide an option to raise the framerate cap on Xbox One S and Xbox Series S consoles in the future," the developers said."

So it seems the jury is still out.

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#7  Edited By The6millionLies
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PUBG is horrible optimize, it got shit graphics too.. I think is more their engine thing than anything else... It wouldn't surprise me if the high end consoles are using a dynamic resolution to maintain the 60fps.

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Series X based on one X build and has 60fps

Series S based on One S build that didnt have 60fps option

Meaning to get it work they would need to optimize and its bad to optimize.

Bad example of the performance of series S really. Need a game that has dynamic resolution and or framerates at least. Even then we wont know difference until games come out on both. Dirt 5 is probably closest to that and although its saying 1440p and 60fps against 4k and 60fps. We will have to see the actual results just like when 4k is claimed on PS5/Series X as last gen they where allowed to do that when it touched 4k for a tiny bit. When really it was well below that.

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@netracing said:

Only 60 for a game released nearly 4 years ago?

To be fair, PUBG wasn't even stable on PC for a long time, can't say I blame on XSS for not running in 60fps due to low specs it's packing. I only played PUBG 1 week when it was still new, so I don't know if the latest patch help it on PC. Fortnite grab me and I never look back lol.

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It's up to the devs. Some good 3rd party devs out there, some not so good. What ya gonna do I mean since we pretty much know the CPU in both X & S are not too different. :P

PS: Also from the article...

"We are working to provide an option to raise the framerate cap on Xbox One S and Xbox Series S consoles in the future," the developers said."

So it seems the jury is still out.

Oh well. It is what it is I guess.

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Series S

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Series S

As much as it pains me to say this...I agree with you. But in another way, this is just for the parents to grab XSS for the kids cause it's cheap.

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Playing Pubg is just about acceptable at 60 so 30 is unplayable horribly janky.

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#14  Edited By sakaiXx
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Why is Xbox Series S using the One S version of the game? Isn't the Series S more powerful than One X? Microsoft gimped the thing too hard.

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The real question is: how's Fortnite?

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@girlusocrazy said:

People should just spend $100 more and get the PS5 with additional storage and more power, or wait for a price drop on the Series X. It doesn't make sense to spend $300 and then have to upgrade in a few years anyway. Getting a system that will last the entire generation is cheaper than buying this and then having to pay more later for more storage and for better hardware that can keep up.

Agreed. You're basically paying for a last gen experience. Why bother?

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Series S is only BC to One S games. We have known this for ages. This is not going to change.

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This can't be true as the SeX must be 30fps also as cows have said the SeS would hold the SeX back lol.

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#21 SolidGame_basic
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@girlusocrazy said:

If anyone needs extra farm land, I_P_Daily is letting cows live rent free in his head

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What would be funny is to hear someone say "i am upgrading from my Xbox X to the Series S". Nice upgrade 🤣

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#23  Edited By Eoten
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Only 60fps on a console that was supposed to rival the performance of a 2080TI? And that's at 1080P according to the article... Uhm....

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@eoten said:

Only 60fps on a console that was supposed to rival the performance of a 2080TI? Uhm....

They haven't unlocked its true potential. Just wait.

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@davillain- said:
@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

Exactly! What happened to only resolution? First Devil May Cry with no ray tracing..not even a patch later and now only 30fps on PUBG when this thing is supposed to be able to hit 120fps and it's kicking out a lower resolution than it's big bro. This is ridiculous. This is why I call this thing junk. It's garbage.

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@louixiii said:
@davillain- said:
@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

Exactly! What happened to only resolution? First Devil May Cry with no ray tracing..not even a patch later and now only 30fps on PUBG when this thing is supposed to be able to hit 120fps and it's kicking out a lower resolution than it's big bro. This is ridiculous. This is why I call this thing junk. It's garbage.

It's not the XSS that's at issue, it's the game itself because...

"Series X based on one X build and has 60fps

Series S based on One S build that didnt have 60fps option"

As the dev says in this article...

""We are working to provide an option to raise the framerate cap on Xbox One S and Xbox Series S consoles in the future," the developers said."

So, newly built games with no frame rate cap won't have this issue.

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These awesome machines can't work miracles when a game is plagued with shoddy programming and lack of optimization. This is selective cynicism.

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#28 Pedro
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@lamprey263 said:

These awesome machines can't work miracles when a game is plagued with shoddy programming and lack of optimization. This is selective cynicism.

This is not much of a programming issue but more of a design "issue". As stated before the Series X is BC with One X and the Series S is BC with One S. Unless they give the One S a 60fps mode as they have stated, the Series S is locked to the One S frame cap.

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A very poorly optimized game performs lower on a budget system. More news at 11. 🤷‍♂️

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@hardwenzen: It's not the hardware is the game,Xbox series S is running the Xbox one S code that is locked at 30fps.. The developers say they are working to get to run at 60fps.

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@SecretPolice said:
@louixiii said:
@davillain- said:
@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

Exactly! What happened to only resolution? First Devil May Cry with no ray tracing..not even a patch later and now only 30fps on PUBG when this thing is supposed to be able to hit 120fps and it's kicking out a lower resolution than it's big bro. This is ridiculous. This is why I call this thing junk. It's garbage.

It's not the XSS that's at issue, it's the game itself because...

"Series X based on one X build and has 60fps

Series S based on One S build that didnt have 60fps option"

As the dev says in this article...

""We are working to provide an option to raise the framerate cap on Xbox One S and Xbox Series S consoles in the future," the developers said."

So, newly built games with no frame rate cap won't have this issue.

Bro, PUBG has been out forever now and they haven't raised the frame rate yet. And PUBG is a big game with a lot going on so I get it but all of that talk about Series S being a next gen console is bs. It's a current gen console that's weaker than the One X. For all of this, they could've just keep the One X in play and stopped manufacturing the One S.

MS has marketed this device as being able to do the same things that the Series X can do but with a lower resolution right?

C'mon man... if it looks like a duck, quack like a duck, it's a damn duck :P

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@girlusocrazy said:

If anyone needs extra farm land, I_P_Daily is letting cows live rent free in his head

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PUBG is still prolly the worst benchmark to judge any system by. It's been out 3 years and still chugs like complete crap if you hot drop / have a lot of players around. They focus their efforts on spamming cosmetics instead of fixing bugs and stutters that have been around ever since the game existed.

Don't really care about Xbox, just saying PUBG is still a horrible running game.

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#34 SolidGame_basic
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@louixiii: do you think the main reason why they created the S was just to bank on digital/Game Pass?

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@davillain- said:
@SecretPolice said:

Budget console does less. I know I'm shocked.

The series S is just a Fortnite machine and its going to sell millions of units because its a better price ($300) for parents to buy this Holiday season.

On topic: It is a little annoying that MS said pretty much the only difference between XSX & XSS would be resolution. Guess that's not going to be the case now. That's what you get for buying cheap alternative and remember, you get what you pay for.

Its just a waste of many because the ps5 digital is only 100 bucks more to get 4k the series x will have. 100 bucks more is worth it because the series s is not worth paying a 100 bucks less.

specs of the series s vs the ps5 specs is not only 100 bucks difference in specs. its more like 200 bucks worth of tech difference.

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@girlusocrazy said:

If anyone needs extra farm land, I_P_Daily is letting cows live rent free in his head

Where on SW and by mentioning cows they're living rent free in my head, well if that were the case everyone would be in everyones mind 24/7, it doesn't work like that lol.

No, it works when people mention people's names specifically (like you did) that the rent free thing works.

So another cow i'm on the mind of, man at this rate i should have the entire herd by the end of the year :)

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I'm more shocked that the game can attain 60fps on the next-gen systems. 'twas a piece of shit.

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@SolidGame_basic: I don’t really think it matters. I got 2 XSX.

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Even 60 fps for this game is fucking bad.....lmao

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#42  Edited By madrocketeer
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One question: are we going to keep getting these "the Series S is more weaksauce than a homeopathic bottle of Heinz ketchup, hah hah hah" threads throughout this coming generation?

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#43  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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Every BC game that's capped at 30fps, unless patched, will run at 30 fps on Series S. Unpatched, it's almost the same as playing on a 2013 Xbox One.

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#44 JoshRMeyer
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@lundy86_4: It was already 60 fps on junk jaguar CPUs current gen, so I'd hope it could easily do that with next gen.

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@girlusocrazy said:

@i_p_daily: Good for you rationalizing everything for yourself. You have a bright future.

Just correcting you on the way things work, i do that a lot for you cows as you guys find interactions hard lol.

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Xbox Series S delivers the same next generation speed and performance that define Xbox Series X.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@louixiii: do you think the main reason why they created the S was just to bank on digital/Game Pass?

That and to take advantage of the people too poor to buy a 500+ dollar console in the middle of a pandemic. Those who can't afford a 4K TV despite how relatively cheap they are.

My gripe is with the marketing. This is marketed as a "next-gen" console and it's not. Even calling it a poor man's next gen console is an insult. So many people complained about the Pro using fake 4K and that same whiny group of people are defending this crap tooth and nail. Anyway, let me shut up before the court of owls decides to ban me for being brutally honest.

[Back to Bystander Mode]

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#48  Edited By daredevils2k
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LOL a console that coudln't run @ 60fps with a game with crappy graphics is pretty embarrassing

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@daredevils2k said:

LOL a console that coudln't run a game with crappy graphics at 60fps is pretty embarrassing

Don't be mean to the PS4 and Xbox One.

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#50  Edited By daredevils2k
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@Pedro said:
@daredevils2k said:

LOL a console that coudln't run a game with crappy graphics at 60fps is pretty embarrassing

Don't be mean to the PS4 and Xbox One.

Wow are you saying the next console known as x box series S = PS4 and Xb1? now that is very embarrassing lol. People should just buy the ps4 pro or xb1x over the XBSES