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#1 Piernik
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

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#2 PC-PS2man
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What about worldwide?
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#3 spark_212
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Cool!, Finally the PSP is owning
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#5 Mu5uk0
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[QUOTE="YzeroXY"]LMAO NO, it was confirmed by Nintendo , DS sold 13 million worldwide, 5 million goes to Japan. Do you think other 6 million was sold in Europe? :lol:
GTFO, you got owned.


There are other countries besides USA, Japan and the countries of Europe, you are aware of that aren't you?
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#6 freeload
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

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Piernik

Yes, but the DS has still sold more in total in the US...

So it is the same difference really...

I think 2006 will be the year to judge both these systems performance properly...

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#7 Teh_Stevz
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I think you've misinterpreted your info...

The PSP sold that much in 2005...

Why is it so hard to find recent numbers? I've been looking 4 two days and... Nothin'!
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#8 KenTa_613
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LMAO

what about japan?

wanna try europe on for size?

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#9 freeload
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik

"Perrin Kaplan, VP of Marketing at NOA, said the DS has sold 3 million in North America this year so far, though holiday sales numbers are not yet available." - Perrin Kaplan

So DS has clearly sold more in TOTAL than the number you gave above, whereas that IS the PSP total number above, since it actually came out in 2005, whereas the DS came out in 2004...

The DS has the 2004 numbers and the holiday sales numbers to add to that 3 million...

So,

PSP > DS in 2005 sales in USA.

DS (most likely) > PSP in total sales in USA.

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#10 Moto19
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik


Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.
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:question:  wtf?
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#12 jaba328
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PSP will catch up in total sales, I think they'll both do equally very well in the long run.

And the stupid nintendo fanboy sales agruement will be dead.
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#13 freeload
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[QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

freeload

"Perrin Kaplan, VP of Marketing at NOA, said the DS has sold 3 million in North America this year so far, though holiday sales numbers are not yet available." - Perrin Kaplan

So DS has clearly sold more in TOTAL than the number you gave above, whereas that IS the PSP total number above, since it actually came out in 2005, whereas the DS came out in 2004...

The DS has the 2004 numbers and the holiday sales numbers to add to that 3 million...

So,

PSP > DS in 2005 sales in USA.

DS (most likely) > PSP in total sales in USA.

Here you go...

"US sales of the Nintendo DS game console have exceeded 4 million since its launch in November 2004, Nintendo has announced." - http://www.999today.com/games/news/story/2520.html

or

"combined with the 4 million DS units sold in the US....Compare these astounding figures with the worldwide sales of the PSP, which is in the region of 7 million units, and you can see that the DS has nearly sold at a rate of 2 to 1 against Sony’s machine" - http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=9483&cb=0.7055475

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#14 chrisoff_1
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[QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Moto19



Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.

couldnt cows do the same for PS1 and PS2 sales?

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#15 potatopotatoboy
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[QUOTE="jaba328"]PSP will catch up in total sales, I think they'll both do equally very well in the long run.

And the stupid nintendo fanboy sales agruement will be dead.


Yes, dead
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[QUOTE="freeload"][QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

freeload

"Perrin Kaplan, VP of Marketing at NOA, said the DS has sold 3 million in North America this year so far, though holiday sales numbers are not yet available." - Perrin Kaplan

So DS has clearly sold more in TOTAL than the number you gave above, whereas that IS the PSP total number above, since it actually came out in 2005, whereas the DS came out in 2004...

The DS has the 2004 numbers and the holiday sales numbers to add to that 3 million...

So,

PSP > DS in 2005 sales in USA.

DS (most likely) > PSP in total sales in USA.

Here you go...

"US sales of the Nintendo DS game console have exceeded 4 million since its launch in November 2004, Nintendo has announced." - http://www.999today.com/games/news/story/2520.html

or

"combined with the 4 million DS units sold in the US" - http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=9483&cb=0.7055475

999today and spong? these are well know for accurate gaming information?

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Total DS sales: november 2004 - end 2005
Total PSP sales: march 2005 - end 2005
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#18 freeload
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[QUOTE="jaba328"]PSP will catch up in total sales, I think they'll both do equally very well in the long run.

And the stupid nintendo fanboy sales agruement will be dead.
potatopotatoboy

Yes, dead

Well, that remains to be seen, and that is kinda the point...

The PSP has sold thus far on the massive hype and Sony brandin...The DS has sold for a bit longer...So PSP has bigger 2005 sales and DS has bigger total sales...

2006 will make it a more level playfield....

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#19 greenprince
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Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!
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Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!greenprince

why do sheep always run to the GBA when they feel threatened?

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#21 freeload
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Total DS sales: november 2004 - end 2005
Total PSP sales: march 2005 - end 2005
Moonblade128

Yup...

The PSP is still riding that hype train...

The DS is not, so I expected the first 6 months or so of the PSP sales to be much better than the later 6 months or so of the DS sales...

Now, in 2006, both machines will have went past HYPE sales and will be selling on equal terms, without headstarts (since that will likely we reduce to nothing soon anyway) or hype either...

Let's wait and see in 2006 eh, for US and Europe...

Just like we wated long enough to get a true representation of the sales in the likes of...

Japan...................

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#22 Teh_Stevz
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[QUOTE="jaba328"]PSP will catch up in total sales, I think they'll both do equally very well in the long run.

And the stupid nintendo fanboy sales agruement will be dead.



To be honest, I hate using sales numbers as arguements. Much wasted Gameplaying time put on sales to delude yourselves that you can jsutify a reason fo owning a console/handheld...

Thats it! I'm off to ONS-Torlan!
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#24 Ryle_Boy
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[QUOTE="Moto19"] [QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

chrisoff_1



Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.

couldnt cows do the same for PS1 and PS2 sales?

heh, so couldnt sheep do nes, snes, n64, gba, gba sp, gba micro, gcn, .......yeh, so i think....you just got pwned? yeh
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#25 potatopotatoboy
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[QUOTE="chrisoff_1"][QUOTE="Moto19"] [QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Ryle_Boy



Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.

couldnt cows do the same for PS1 and PS2 sales?

heh, so couldnt sheep do nes, snes, n64, gba, gba sp, gba micro, gcn, pokemon mini.......yeh, so i think....you just got pwned? yeh


no, just pokemon mini??!?
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#26 Ryle_Boy
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aww, come on!! its pokemon mini! meh, i just saw it on the Nintendo of Australia site, didnt know what it was, but id thought id chuck it in there
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[QUOTE="chrisoff_1"][QUOTE="Moto19"] [QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Ryle_Boy



Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.

couldnt cows do the same for PS1 and PS2 sales?

heh, so couldnt sheep do nes, snes, n64, gba, gba sp, gba micro, gcn, pokemon mini.......yeh, so i think....you just got pwned? yeh

you missed the point entirely............which is Why even add together sales of systems that nobody even talks about anymore i know sheep are desperate to take away something from that fact DS got outsold this year in the US, but to use a handheld thats never even talked about here on system wars anymore is just desperation.

i was always lead to believe that this handheld war was between the DS and PSP since when has the GBA counted i mean do we have threads about its upcoming games or anything.............NO its all but been forgotten about until sheep feel there loosing a sales argument then suddenly the GBA matters

Also half the consoles you mentioned have been discontinued unlike the ps1 which can still be bought brand new today so adding all those together means nothing right now

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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik
You know, there's always threads about DS doing better and PSP doing better. I don't know who to believe so I'm not going to believe you.
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#29 TE_Lawrence
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Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!greenprince

Let's see, there has been no GBA shortage.

  • The GBA costs less.
  • The GBA's sales are for the entire year.
  • The GBA has a bigger game library.
  • The PS2 is outselling xBox and xBox360.( I'm hoping that you are smart enough to see why I included this)

The thing is that outside Japan PSP seems to be hotter than the DS even though it has been out for a shorter time.

BTW, the Japanese mainly buy the DS for things like Nintendogs and Braintraining( don't hype this while you call you self hardcore gamers) which does't translate very well to the western culture, unless we are talking about kids.

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#30 greenprince
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[QUOTE="greenprince"]Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!chrisoff_1

why do sheep always run to the GBA when they feel threatened?

same reason u feel threatened about DS
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[QUOTE="greenprince"]Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!TE_Lawrence

Let's see, there has been no GBA shortage.

  • The GBA costs less.
  • The GBA's sales are for the entire year.
  • The GBA has a bigger game library.
  • The PS2 is outselling xBox and xBox360.( I'm hoping that you are smart enough to see why I included this)

The thing is that outside Japan PSP seems to be hotter than the DS even though it has been out for a shorter time.

BTW, the Japanese mainly buy the DS for things like Nintendogs and Braintraining( don't hype this while you call you self hardcore gamers) which does't translate very well to the western culture, unless we are talking about kids.

your points was pretty good expect for the last part because ur targeted a specific, that only has a fraction of sales of ds and psp only won because of shortages which you said your self, by the way ps2 only beat xbox 360 because of shortages know ur frickin facts! your one the those people who are insecure and to play psp because it makes you feel mature.
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#32 revo_360
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[QUOTE="chrisoff_1"]

[QUOTE="greenprince"]Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!greenprince

why do sheep always run to the GBA when they feel threatened?

same reason u feel threatened about DS

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#33 overfeind
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Hmm... yeah the PSP is winning in the USA. If that is what you want to call it.
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[QUOTE="greenprince"][QUOTE="chrisoff_1"]

[QUOTE="greenprince"]Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!revo_360

why do sheep always run to the GBA when they feel threatened?

same reason u feel threatened about DS

own3d

i dont feel threatened by the DS though and i will readly except the PSP is gets it butt kicked in japan and definately wont try and deny it, but i will argue the case when someone posts info about the PSP outselling a competitor regradless of how much sheep try twist it by using the GBA as some kind of ownage thats why i said what i did because i dont really understand why sheep feel the need to bring up the GBA when the PSP gets some good sales news............i thought sheep were confident enough in the DS without having to resort to using the GBA sales i was cleary wrong

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#35 sugarhigh4242
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i love the people using Nintendo's numbers as a rebuttle.

#1: Nintendo uses a different methodoloy to count their sales.

#2: indepentent source > nintendo's numbers

#3: TSHBO
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#36 TE_Lawrence
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[QUOTE="TE_Lawrence"]

[QUOTE="greenprince"]Its kind of funny because GBA beat psp!greenprince

Let's see, there has been no GBA shortage.

  • The GBA costs less.
  • The GBA's sales are for the entire year.
  • The GBA has a bigger game library.
  • The PS2 is outselling xBox and xBox360.( I'm hoping that you are smart enough to see why I included this)

The thing is that outside Japan PSP seems to be hotter than the DS even though it has been out for a shorter time.

BTW, the Japanese mainly buy the DS for things like Nintendogs and Braintraining( don't hype this while you call you self hardcore gamers) which does't translate very well to the western culture, unless we are talking about kids.

your points was pretty good expect for the last part because ur targeted a specific, that only has a fraction of sales of ds and psp only won because of shortages which you said your self, by the way ps2 only beat xbox 360 because of shortages know ur frickin facts! your one the those people who are insecure and to play psp because it makes you feel mature.

o.O The only portable I play is the GBA because of the two Golden Sun games and the first Advanced Wars.

I have no current plans nor the money to get a PSP, I just pointed out the reasons why the GBA outsold the PSP and from what I know there hasn't been a GBA shortage.

About the DS shortage, it's in Japa not in the states nor in Europe, there you can still find DSs on the shelves.It's not like Nintendo took the DSs outside Japan and flew them back 'home' to fill the holes.

The thing is that the Japanese have another taste in games compared to us westerners and I'm quite sure that we'll also see this reflected in next gen console sales where PS3 takes the west while the Rev will rule Japan like the DS does.

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#37 TE_Lawrence
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i love the people using Nintendo's numbers as a rebuttle.

#1: Nintendo uses a different methodoloy to count their sales.

#2: indepentent source > nintendo's numbers

#3: TSHBO
sugarhigh4242

I especially like how Nintendo adds the GBA games to the DS attachment rate. :lol:

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#38 KHconsumed
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give me a break, its winning in the US, contrary to popular belief, the US is not the center of the universe (or gaming)

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GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 millionPiernik
Since when is second place winning?
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#40 skelebull3000
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LMAO

what about japan?

wanna try europe on for size?

KenTa_613

PSP won in europe.

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#41 gamingfreak47
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik


:lol: your a joke because thats only in monthly sales. total the DS is still 3 mil sold more than the psp!
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#42 DefaultGen
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik


Nintendo makes GBA.  Congrats on saying Sony > Ninty.
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#43 meggido
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[QUOTE="potatopotatoboy"] [QUOTE="jaba328"]PSP will catch up in total sales, I think they'll both do equally very well in the long run.

And the stupid nintendo fanboy sales agruement will be dead.
freeload


Yes, dead

Well, that remains to be seen, and that is kinda the point...

The PSP has sold thus far on the massive hype and Sony brandin...The DS has sold for a bit longer...So PSP has bigger 2005 sales and DS has bigger total sales...

2006 will make it a more level playfield....

This year the sales will be influenced by the games themselves.

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#44 yourface182
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Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

Piernik
You self-owned yourself. You said that the PSP is winning, than why is the GBA ahead of it.
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#45 meggido
Member since 2005 • 16980 Posts
[QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

yourface182

You self-owned yourself. You said that the PSP is winning, than why is the GBA ahead of it.

He was talking about DSvsPSP.

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#46 avee69
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[QUOTE="yourface182"][QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

meggido

You self-owned yourself. You said that the PSP is winning, than why is the GBA ahead of it.

He was talking about DSvsPSP.

But Nintendo makes GBA. Meaning the poster = Self-owned.

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#47 Sir_Troid
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WInning Overall > Winning in 1 Continent = DS > PSP
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#48 Princecake
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[QUOTE="Mu5uk0"] [QUOTE="YzeroXY"]LMAO NO, it was confirmed by Nintendo , DS sold 13 million worldwide, 5 million goes to Japan. Do you think other 6 million was sold in Europe? :lol:
GTFO, you got owned.


There are other countries besides USA, Japan and the countries of Europe, you are aware of that aren't you?



don't blame him, blame the education system
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#49 Piernik
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#50 sxdx89
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[QUOTE="Ryle_Boy"][QUOTE="chrisoff_1"][QUOTE="Moto19"] [QUOTE="Piernik"]

Here are U.S. hardware sales data for all of 2005 for the GBA, DS, and PSP:

GBA: 4.26 million
PSP: 3.63 million
DS: 2.43 million

http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/D27174DA-98D2-46D4-AD1B-A532FB93694E.htm

NINTENDO TROLLS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY OWNED!!!

chrisoff_1



Well since you're targeting Nintendo trolls for ownage then I guess you just got self owned because it's Nintendo so GBA numbers plus DS numbers. OWNED.

couldnt cows do the same for PS1 and PS2 sales?

heh, so couldnt sheep do nes, snes, n64, gba, gba sp, gba micro, gcn, pokemon mini.......yeh, so i think....you just got pwned? yeh

you missed the point entirely............which is Why even add together sales of systems that nobody even talks about anymore i know sheep are desperate to take away something from that fact DS got outsold this year in the US, but to use a handheld thats never even talked about here on system wars anymore is just desperation.

i was always lead to believe that this handheld war was between the DS and PSP since when has the GBA counted i mean do we have threads about its upcoming games or anything.............NO its all but been forgotten about until sheep feel there loosing a sales argument then suddenly the GBA matters

Also half the consoles you mentioned have been discontinued unlike the ps1 which can still be bought brand new today so adding all those together means nothing right now

yet cows always bring up the gamecube losing to ps2 when people talk about the DS winning in Japan.