"PS5 Holding back games & game design" -- PUBG

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#1 regnaston
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Here is the chat from the PUBG discord server

someone said this is because PS5 is not generational aware.. it does not know if a game is PS4 or PS5

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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#3 hardwenzen  Online
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First of all, it is clear to me that he is butthurt about not being able to play Returnal, a 9/10 masterpiece on his PC.

Secondly, they're complete fools if they think that the PS5's SSD is unable to handle a 4y old game in 120fps.

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#4 lamprey263
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I don't think it has to do with technical capabilities but how Sony structures publishing on their platforms. This is why we had to have Control Ultimate Edition. Why some games need re-releases on PS5 and just an update on Xbox.

Anyhow, forget what game it was, but one solution was to add an add-on for last gen version cheap to give players access to next gen version. Not sure if easy for developers but at least better for consumers this way.

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#5 freedomfreak
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They even played their own game?

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#6 regnaston
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@hardwenzen said:

First of all, it is clear to me that he is butthurt about not being able to play Returnal, a 9/10 masterpiece on his PC.

Secondly, they're complete fools if they think that the PS5's SSD is unable to handle a 4y old game in 120fps.

who is butt hurt? Surely you are not suggesting I am. Returnal looks fun and I am glad you guys have that. It still needs some tweaks (like being able to save and quit and then reload the save which makes it disappear).

If I get a PS5 I will pick up that game, but I would not pay full price for it.

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#7 regnaston
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@lamprey263 said:

I don't think it has to do with technical capabilities but how Sony structures publishing on their platforms. This is why we had to have Control Ultimate Edition. Why some games need re-releases on PS5 and just an update on Xbox.

Anyhow, forget what game it was, but one solution was to add an add-on for last gen version cheap to give players access to next gen version. Not sure if easy for developers but at least better for consumers this way.

yes technically the PS5 can handle 120fps.. it has to do with their UI and how it handles PS4 games. This could probably be fixed with a change to the UI

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#8 PC_Rocks
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Most probably by design because Sony wants to further fleece the developers as it will be considered a new game or it could also very well be the case of 'Sony has chimps for software engineers'.

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#9 Chutebox
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Judging by the actual conversation, this isn't true at all.

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#10 hardwenzen  Online
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@regnaston said:
@hardwenzen said:

First of all, it is clear to me that he is butthurt about not being able to play Returnal, a 9/10 masterpiece on his PC.

Secondly, they're complete fools if they think that the PS5's SSD is unable to handle a 4y old game in 120fps.

who is butt hurt? Surely you are not suggesting I am. Returnal looks fun and I am glad you guys have that. It still needs some tweaks (like being able to save and quit and then reload the save which makes it disappear).

If I get a PS5 I will pick up that game, but I would not pay full price for it.

PUBG dev is clearly butthurt. That's why he is bitchin' about the PS5. Clear as day to me.

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#11 Archangel3371
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@lamprey263: Yeah thatโ€™s really the impression that I get as well.

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#12 loonski
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pubg on a console, lol.

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#13 remiks00
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@hardwenzen: You wouldn't happen to be "blackace" would you? ๐Ÿค”

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@remiks00 said:

@hardwenzen: You wouldn't happen to be "blackace" would you? ๐Ÿค”

lmao good luck seeing him say anything negative about MS

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Clearly he didn't watch Mark Cernys PS5 presentation.

The PS5 can only run in 3 modes: PS5, Pro, and PS4.

Any BC patches would probably have to fit within Pro mode (mostly fps upgrades).

This is why you've seen Sony boost games to 60fps, but not many resolution bumps unless already closed with a dynamic resolution scaler.

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps5-game-boost-all-major-ps4-game-improvements#:~:text=PS5%20Game%20Boost%20is%20a,horsepower%20of%20the%20PlayStation%205.

Outside of those parameters you would have to code a PS5 version to unlock full use of PS5 resources

That said, if you can't get your 7th gen looking game to 120fps with a patch then maybe you need to fix your code....

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#17  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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So upgrade your game dummies, the answer was in your complaint, you're holding yourselves back. Too cheap to get a devkit?

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#18 hardwenzen  Online
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@navyguy21 said:

Clearly he didn't watch Mark Cernys PS5 presentation.

The PS5 can only run in 3 modes: PS5, Pro, and PS4.

Any BC patches would probably have to fit within Pro mode (mostly fps upgrades).

This is why you've seen Sony boost games to 60fps, but not many resolution bumps unless already closed with a dynamic resolution scaler.

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps5-game-boost-all-major-ps4-game-improvements#:~:text=PS5%20Game%20Boost%20is%20a,horsepower%20of%20the%20PlayStation%205.

Outside of those parameters you would have to code a PS5 version to unlock full use of PS5 resources

That said, if you can't get your 7th gen looking game to 120fps with a patch then maybe you need to fix your code....

Is that why Returnal, a ps5 exclusive, is in 1080p?

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From a mediocre developer whose game always ran like dog shit.

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#20 Zero_epyon
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More like they're holding themselves back. Other devs seem to be able to take the time and effort to create a PS5 port. While MS's BC system is superior to Sony's, there's nothing stopping them from actually supporting the PS5.

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#21 Howmakewood
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so they need to put a tiny bit more effort in and start bitching instead? cool

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#22 GoldenElementXL
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Nano Polymath is a RDX Patreon subscriber. They donate money to a Xbox fanboy podcast... Thatโ€™s the source of this thread?

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3RD placestation

hah

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#24 BlackShirt20
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Poor PS5. Canโ€™t even run an old ass game.

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#25  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Just re-release it and charge full wack. In fact, raise the price.

Gamers are stupid.

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#26 Sollet
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@goldenelementxl said:

Nano Polymath is a RDX Patreon subscriber. They donate money to a Xbox fanboy podcast... Thatโ€™s the source of this thread?

Eh noticed that OP is always making these "concern threads" lol.

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#27 loonski
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pubg on console is like watching a blind person trying to find the urinal. (without a guide stick) its just lobotomizing. Its like quake 3 on the dreamcast.

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#28 firedrakes
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adding salt.

sony ssd already out of date.

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#29  Edited By mazuiface
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PUBG developers hold back games. Their game runs like shit even with good PC hardware.

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#30 ermacness
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@mazuiface said:

PUBG developers hold back games. Their game runs like shit even with good PC hardware.

Iโ€™m not excusing Sony for itโ€™s poor method of BC, but at least allow for a dev who have put a quality competent product to make claims.

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#31  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag  Online
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They should be more concerned about their own game dying than taking shots at consoles.

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#32  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@Archangel3371 said:

@lamprey263: Yeah thatโ€™s really the impression that I get as well.

Can't the maker do Control Ultimate edition free for xbox and paid on ps5? Why did it hold xbox back they can do it for xbox right now well than do that one instead of complain and if you can't do ps5 its simple or do just the ps5. This is crazy ps5 isn't holding back anyone. If your dev and have paths to upgrade a game do it if you don't, dont say one thing is holding everyone back that's ridiculous.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

They should be more concerned about their own game dying than taking shots at consoles.

So true

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Aren't you glad your paid$1500 for that monstrosity ๐Ÿคฃ

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#34 regnaston
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@Sollet said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Nano Polymath is a RDX Patreon subscriber. They donate money to a Xbox fanboy podcast... Thatโ€™s the source of this thread?

Eh noticed that OP is always making these "concern threads" lol.

Oh did I hurt you little feelings by bringing up an issue with your favorite piece of plastic??? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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#35 Archangel3371
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@ProtossRushX: But you do get the free upgrade on Control Ultimate Edition from Xbox One to Xbox Series systems. It was something about if you just purchased the regular edition of Control it couldnโ€™t be upgraded for some reason. Donโ€™t know how it works on PS4/PS5.

Are there any games on the PS4 that get a free upgrade to the PS5 version as well? I already have purchased a number of games for the Xbox One that can be upgraded to the Xbox Series X version and most games coming out these days are both Xbox One/Xbox Series X. Essentially your getting two versions for one price.

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#36 lamprey263
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@ProtossRushX said:

Can't the maker do Control Ultimate edition free for xbox and paid on ps5?

That's the case for some games, but Control had a timed exclusive DLC on PlayStstion so unlikely they'd be allowed to as some kind of parity clause came attached.

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#37 WitIsWisdom
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Well if some random guy on twitter that nobody has ever heard of with an XBox hashtag in his post says so then you know it must be true.

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#38 Sollet
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@regnaston: lol I don't own a PS5. I do however own a PC, Switch and PS4. Seems I got you all defensive. Looking forward to your next "concern thread" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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#40 SecretPolice
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Weak azz TumorStation strikes again...

lol :P

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#41 sakaiXx
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Idk who plays pubg anymore and Idk who plays it on consoles but this one I agree. Sony somehow dont have methods to ensure PS5 able to activate custom settings on PS4 BC titles.

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#42 regnaston
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@Sollet said:

@regnaston: lol I don't own a PS5. I do however own a PC, Switch and PS4. Seems I got you all defensive. Looking forward to your next "concern thread" ๐Ÿ˜‰

not defensive at all.. I am glad you are subscribing to me for real news as opposed to the rest of the drivel ๐Ÿคฃ