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http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

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#2 DGM09
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I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

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#3  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

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#4 uninspiredcup
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But pc is better.

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#5 Snugenz
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Nothing about this story is incredible.

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#6  Edited By BattlefieldFan3
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@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit of 250 watt and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box. How much power does the Xbone use? 500 watts?

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#7 FoxbatAlpha
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ROFL!!!! No, this is the cheapest console they ever produced in the whole PS line. They cut corners and used off the shelf parts from tigerdirect.com.

The power cord that you marvel about is no different.

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#8  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box.

Oh damn, I didn't quite understand the first time. Well when you put it like that, I'm shocked! Amazed! Dumbfounded! Flabbergasted even!

Thank you Kaz!

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#9 masiisam
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Thats weird...My iron is 1200 Watts and it's only a two prong...

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@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit of 250 watt and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box. How much power does the Xbone use? 500 watts?

To be fair, the Xbox draws power for the console+kinect while putting out less heat and making less noise than the PS4. That sounds like pretty good engineering to me lol

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#11 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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They held back the power because of the form factor? Doesn't seem all that incredible.

Glad to see it's power efficient anyway, though the long term usage remains to be determined.

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#12 freedomfreak
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WHOA

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#13  Edited By PinkieWinkie
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@uninspiredcup: yeah, if you have never touched a girl and have no social life.

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#15 Heil68
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With the PS4 being the most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games, it is indeed a marvel of engineering, form and function.

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Supp

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How freaking long is this thing YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#17  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Suppaman100 said:

Best GIF I've ever seen posted on SW. Congrats to you sir!

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#18  Edited By StormyJoe
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@BattlefieldFan3 said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

Blog it, super cow.

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#19  Edited By adamosmaki
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yeah i highly doubt that is the main reason the try to held power under 250W when they were designing the console ( let alone i have devices with 2 prong that are more than 250W )

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#20 V3rciS
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@BattlefieldFan3:

Why would you have a BattlefieldFan name? It's like the same with having a "Callofdutyfan" name.







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#21  Edited By Shielder7
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PS4 using a three prong power cord wouldn't have bothered me in the least, in fact they're usually better made.

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#22  Edited By gago-gago
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Sony makes nice hardware but software/OS wise they still have a long way to go.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-bug-corrupting-save-files/1100-6417240/

PS4 bug corrupting save files.

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@BattlefieldFan3 said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

im glad my PC has the same gpu as PS4 but instead it is not underclocked, has all the CUs enabled and consumes 300W, i want my games performance not a tiny pretty case

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Why I knew it'd be Battlefield Fan 3 thread ?

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#25 CrownKingArthur
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i don't understand. because

@adamosmaki said:

yeah i highly doubt that is the main reason the try to held power under 250W when they were designing the console ( let alone i have devices with 2 prong that are more than 250W )

yeah because of this kind of stuff. i have loads of devices over 250 watt which don't require an earth.

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#26 Tessellation
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another butthurt bandodger thread.

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#27 osirisx3
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the low clock speeds and tablet cpu is how they pulled it off.

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#28 Ghost120x
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BattlefieldFan3- Incredible trolling

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#29 MonsieurX
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Better question :why can't you do a good thread?

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#30  Edited By Netret0120
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Waiting for the ps4 slim

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@BattlefieldFan3 said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

So amazing it corrupts save files lol

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#32  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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It's not that the ps4 is incredibly engineered, just that the Xbone is incredibly badly engineered...

The gamecube was incredibly engineered.

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#33  Edited By donalbane
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It essentially a tablet APU wrapped in a console packaging. If you want to see a technical marvel, look at the tablet technology that the new consoles are based on.

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#34 Crypt_mx
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@Chozofication said:

It's not that the ps4 is incredibly engineered, just that the Xbone is incredibly badly engineered...

The gamecube was incredibly engineered.

Contrary to popular belief, the X1 is not badly engineered. Whether or not you personally like the console or the way it looks is one thing, but any person who understands engineering understands that the X1 is designed with efficiency in mind.

The X1's cooling design is actually the best way to cool something. The X1 draws in are from both sides and the back, the air is then pushed directly up through the large desktop-like fan that ventilates through the top of the console. They have great airflow coming into a strong fan that is pointed up, and since hot air rises that's ideal. This is what makes the X1 quieter and cooler than the PS4.

That's not to knock the PS4's engineering though, as they did do a very good job considering their small form factor.

At the end of the day, the X1 was meant to be an always online, always running console. They didn't want a RROD all over again and so they chose the simplest and most effective method.

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@Crypt_mx: There is one problem with that airflow design though. If the machine is in a TV bench, wich most people will, the heat going out the top won't be ideal. The best and safest way is blowing the heat out the sides or back, since it's more likely people will put things on top of the console or having it in a small TV bench with no overhead.

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I think X1 and PS4 are both engineering feats.

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#37  Edited By lundy86_4
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Keep spoiling us, Sony!

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#38  Edited By Tommi88
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i like the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One controller the best! :)

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#39  Edited By clr84651
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@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

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#40 Snugenz
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@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

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@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

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#42 darkangel115
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if its so incredible why does it wobble and why does the vertical stand make the fan blow directly into the surface its on? this thread is dumb

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@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

but it don't fall down

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Too bad there are barely any worthwhile games for it.

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#45 Snugenz
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@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

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#46 clr84651
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@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

No, I'm serious. There's a rubber piece on the bottom in the middle that flattens down after the PS4 sits for about a week. The wobble is very temporary & only if you make it. My 2 don't wobble at all. I can't even force them.

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#47  Edited By clr84651
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@PannicAtack said:

Too bad there are barely any worthwhile games for it.

Same goes for the X1.

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#48 Snugenz
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@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

No, I'm serious. There's a rubber piece on the bottom in the middle that flattens down after the PS4 sits for about a week. The wobble is very temporary & only if you make it. My 2 don't wobble at all. I can't even force them.

I'm serious aswell, my PS4 wobbles, it's not an issue at all but it does in fact wobble.

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Simply stunning.

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#50  Edited By miiiiv
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Ps4 is a great game console, it's the most powerful game console this gen but performance wise it's nothing special compared to todays gaming PCs. Heck, a hi-end pc (dual GPUs) from 2010 outperforms the ps4. That has never happen before, that a game console is outperformed by a 3 year older pc. I think the ps4 will have an amazing game library in the future and that's all that counts, but I wouldn't use the word "incredible" about it's hardware.