PS3 + Wii = 360 + 7 years XBL gold

Why is it that the people who have such a problem with XBL fees seem to be the same people that don't pay for the service in the first place ?

Crazy place this SW but we appreciate your concern over the way we spend our money :o no really. :P

SecretPolice

I have a Problem paying for access of the Internet on my Xbox.

Xbox Live Gold does nothing that should garner a Purchase for it except for Access of Online so I could watch Netflix, ESPN, or play Halo or whatever Online.

Gold is litterally just giving Microsoft Money.

If you don't, well no Call of Duty Multiplayer for you. sad times.

I pay for Xbox Live Gold, only because it's a Toll Booth to gain Total Access to the Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] The PS3 had 1 year warranty,the xbox 360 was rise to 3 years almost 2 years after the problem appear,and YLOD wasn't even close to RROD.. You could even use PS2 head sets,could you do that on 360.? Socom head set work perfectly on PS3,and the one you got free was a wired one. Yes but they had motion and build in battery,the play and charge kit was $20 extra,360 controllers to this day still are to expensive,$50 dollars no rechargeable batteries and no motion,DS3 include motion,rumble and build in battery as cost $55,on 360 you need a play an charge kit is extra. But wait there is more.. The PS3 was blu-ray which was $1,000 on 2006,so when the 360 get the ad on for blu-ray.? Oh you got one a dead format for $200,which sky rocket the price of the xbox 360 to $600 dollars but without wifi,and without free online play those were $99 apart for something the even the wii had,and $50 for online play.. In the race of who god more screwed by who MS fans will always loose.danish-death

The cow is strong in this one...

I am not saying that the PS3 didn't have a lot of value, because I would be full of crap if I did :P

But, when the PS3 launched, you were forced into buying all of that tech, which you didn't have to with the 360. Even today, 6 years later, blu-ray only accounts for 25% of video disc sales. To me, Sony pushed Blu-Ray on the consumer to win the format war, something I was not willing to accept. http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2012/05/09/blu-ray-the-state-of-play-may-2012/

Has Blu-Ray benefitted the PS3? Sure, but there isn't all that much difference between the PS3 and 360 in game visuals/sound/performance. And on the flip side, the slow read speed of the drive for the PS3 has made installing games on the PS3 a necessity for some titles.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Why is it that the people who have such a problem with XBL fees seem to be the same people that don't pay for the service in the first place ?

Crazy place this SW but we appreciate your concern over the way we spend our money :o no really. :P

sts106mat

So true lol Cows are more obsessed about the 360, than lems. I'm sure that, most 360 owners have been having an awesome gen. At least i have very few complains!

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]7 years of XBL Gold = worth it 7 years of cow tears = pricelesssts106mat

I dont think they should charge people for peer ro peer play, in my opinion it means that microsoft have managed to both sell and rent hardware at the same time.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]That's a lot. I'm scared to see how much I've spent on my large library of games. 0.0sts106mat

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]The 360 is officially the worst AND most expensive console PAL360

Worst is subjective, but 360 is also officially the console with the most games. You know, what actually matters when you get a gaming console.

I am not saying that the PS3 didn't have a lot of value, because I would be full of crap if I did :P

But, when the PS3 launched, you were forced into buying all of that tech, which you didn't have to with the 360. Even today, 6 years later, blu-ray only accounts for 25% of video disc sales. To me, Sony pushed Blu-Ray on the consumer to win the format war, something I was not willing to accept. http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2012/05/09/blu-ray-the-state-of-play-may-2012/

Has Blu-Ray benefitted the PS3? Sure, but there isn't all that much difference between the PS3 and 360 in game visuals/sound/performance. And on the flip side, the slow read speed of the drive for the PS3 has made installing games on the PS3 a necessity for some titles.

StormyJoe

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Why is it that the people who have such a problem with XBL fees seem to be the same people that don't pay for the service in the first place ?

Crazy place this SW but we appreciate your concern over the way we spend our money :o no really. :P

sts106mat

Bwahahhaha you sir, is a master at making cows looking worse than they are.

• Removing BC was lame, yes. No arguing there and I don't believe anybody are. This isn't 2007/2008 anymore.
• Removal of rumble was dumb, but they changed that. The missing rumble wasn't a game changer though and certainly is in no way or shape ownage material in 2012.
• Using PS2 HD revamps as ownage is just odd. You already mentioned no BC (semi understandable) and now you're going to dubble dib and mention the HD ports? That's just silleh. I mean, not only are they're optional, but we're still seeing exclusive retail and PSN titles for the PS3. It's not like Sony suddenly stopped production of new games. Besides, if the whole PS2 issue is too much to handle you can get one off ebay for a little as $20 + we're also seeing some of these titles on the Xbox 360, in fact I believe ZoE HD collection is about to release on both platforms?

To summerize: BC removal lame, yes. Rumble was in reality not that big a deal and HD ports isn't an issue to anyone - certainly not a rip-off.

Instead having to pay money to play online is in any way you want to look at it. I don't care that people do. I didn't make the thread about this. People can do whatever they want with their money for all I care, as long as I get to keep my opinion. :)

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] nobody forces anyone to buy a 360, If you buy one you are going to pay for XBL Gold if you want to play onlinests106mat

that said i still think the likes of halo justify the fee alone to me. also because we are paying there is much more incentive to keep xbox live running smoothly, updated quickly with patches and adding new features as and when. all that stuff happens.

its also super simple to report any griefers, send voice messages, mute idiots, join friends games etc, keep together when going from one game to another.

If everything was free there would be less onus on MS to get things working right.

Why is it that the people who have such a problem with XBL fees seem to be the same people that don't pay for the service in the first place ?

Crazy place this SW but we appreciate your concern over the way we spend our money :o no really. :P

SecretPolice

Hmmmm a cow who actually has some friends buys a PS3 at launch..... New PS3 $600 buy 3 new controllers at launch for PS3 $150 forced to buy 4 more after Sony decides rumble isn't last gen after all $200 Buys Move and a some controllers $200 ... gets discontinued after a year PS+ for 2 years $100 The true cost of a PS3 and milkage of a cow .... $1250 and a bunch of worthless controllers and some lost games :oblue_hazy_basic

Ive owned both the 360 and PS3 since pretty much launch, and despite being a diehard cow last gen (embarrassingly), 90% of my gametime is now on the 360.

First off, you're going off RRP prices for XBL. If you shop around you can get it much cheaper. Here in the UK, Live is supposed to cost £40 a year, yet I get my year codes for around £26. And yes, that £26 is easily worth it. Considering the majority of my multiplayer time is currently devoted to Battlefield 3, I could easily settle for PSN. But the service just isn't as robust as XBL, and I don't like settling for second best when I could be using something much better.

If people are happy to settle for a free service, thats fine. I enjoy a bit of luxury in my life, I don't have money issues that maybe other people have so I guess I'm lucky.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"] thats the way it always has been, butthurt cows everywhere, trying to convince happy 360 owners that they are being ripped off, whilst at the same time defending the removal of backward compatibility, removal of rumble from controllers and HD revamps of PS2 games they should still be able to play on the ps3.sts106mat

Bwahahhaha you sir, is a master at making cows looking worse than they are.

• Removing BC was lame, yes. No arguing there and I don't believe anybody are. This isn't 2007/2008 anymore.
• Removal of rumble was dumb, but they changed that. The missing rumble wasn't a game changer though and certainly is in no way or shape ownage material in 2012.
• Using PS2 HD revamps as ownage is just odd. You already mentioned no BC (semi understandable) and now you're going to dubble dib and mention the HD ports? That's just silleh. I mean, not only are they're optional, but we're still seeing exclusive retail and PSN titles for the PS3. It's not like Sony suddenly stopped production of new games. Besides, if the whole PS2 issue is too much to handle you can get one off ebay for a little as $20 + we're also seeing some of these titles on the Xbox 360, in fact I believe ZoE HD collection is about to release on both platforms?

To summerize: BC removal lame, yes. Rumble was in reality not that big a deal and HD ports isn't an issue to anyone - certainly not a rip-off.

Instead having to pay money to play online is in any way you want to look at it. I don't care that people do. I didn't make the thread about this. People can do whatever they want with their money for all I care, as long as I get to keep my opinion. :)

quite a few cows dont need any help from me to look worse than they already do. just look at "not-very-Steady-Eddie-vedder" & themajormayor.

missing rumble not a game changer, but if you were here at the time, you will remember all the cows saying "rumble is last gen, six axis is the future", so thats why they get laughed at.

Yes the double dip with the HD revamps, not really a rip-off, but to remove the feature and do what they did i think is a bit of a scam, once sony figured out they could up-res and sell the same game again, they were all over it. now you are are also getting collections of ps2 ps3 games revamped like killzone collection, god of war (has how many collections), so its actually a triple dip.

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I do agree with how some cows need help though :)

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]That's a lot. I'm scared to see how much I've spent on my large library of games. 0.0sts106mat