Price Drop coming for the PS3 ........

Production cost drop, not price drop.cakeorrdeath

What he said, and isn't a price drop not in the cards until 2008 at least? 

Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. JDW_games

Maybe, maybe not, just speculation at this stage. 360 production drop has dropped significantly since launch. Still no price drop.

Whether or not this will translate in price drops for each of the consoles is unknown at this point."

It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

 

It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

the-very-best

WHy would they drop it as big titles are being released? That would be like the 360 dropping the price just before Halo.

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It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

cakeorrdeath

WHy would they drop it as big titles are being released? That would be like the 360 dropping the price just before Halo.

Yeah, MS should do that. 

Don't expect a price cut. All because production cost have been limited does not mean they will lower the cost for you since they are still losing money on each ps3 sold. If they turn around and cut the cost to the consumer, then they will be right back where they were before, loosing way to much per unit sold.

Don't expect a cut until Q2-3 of 2008.

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It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

the-very-best

WHy would they drop it as big titles are being released? That would be like the 360 dropping the price just before Halo.

Yeah, MS should do that.

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It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

cakeorrdeath

WHy would they drop it as big titles are being released? That would be like the 360 dropping the price just before Halo.

Dropping the price before Halo 3 comes out is smart. More focus on the 360 with Halo 3 along side it. I said it before, it they dropped the price this Q4 and bundled it with Halo 3 etc... it would be a huge deal IMO and cause even more 360's to be bought. And it will force Sony to drop their price sooner and cause them to loose even more money 

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It could see a price drop. No official confirmation. Anyway, I'm expecting one before KZ/GTAIV/HS release.

SergeantSnitch

WHy would they drop it as big titles are being released? That would be like the 360 dropping the price just before Halo.

Yeah, MS should do that.

For MS I would think moving systems is more imporant then more profit on each console sold. And again with the price drop it will make the PS3 look even more expensive... 

As soon as they drop to $500 I'll be picking mine up :) I'm still lovin my PS2, but I'm ready for a PS3 soon. JDW_games

400$ for me only

Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. JDW_games

    Actually, Sony has said time and again that they are happy with the price point of the PS3 at this stage, and they don't expect a drop until 2009.

    Also, the PS3 is not exactly dying. It is selling around the same pace (worldwide) as the 360, so there is not a lot of incentive to drop the price, whereas there is incentive to keep the price the same (to recoop some of the losses that Sony took on the initial hardware). 

MS has perfectly positioned the x360 this gen to counter any price drop the PS3 receives. Basically negating any move by Sony.

MS has perfectly positioned the x360 this gen to counter any price drop the PS3 receives. Basically negating any move by Sony.

LosDaddie

    People who don't care about the 360 won't care what its price drops to as long as the PS3s price drops as well. Not everyone judges the consoles based off each other, and not everyone only buys one system. 

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MS has perfectly positioned the x360 this gen to counter any price drop the PS3 receives. Basically negating any move by Sony.

SpruceCaboose

    People who don't care about the 360 won't care what its price drops to as long as the PS3s price drops as well. Not everyone judges the consoles based off each other, and not everyone only buys one system. 

I agree to a point. I believe people/gamers follow game franchises more than the logo on the console. I think a ton of gamers are waiting for a console that has a  GTA and a Madden/FIFA/PES on it before they convert.

Also, I don't believe there are going to me a large number of mulit-console gamers until there are a few price drops.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]People who don't care about the 360 won't care what its price drops to as long as the PS3s price drops as well. Not everyone judges the consoles based off each other, and not everyone only buys one system.

LosDaddie

I agree to a point. I believe people/gamers follow game franchises more than the logo on the console. I think a ton of gamers are waiting for a console that has a GTA and a Madden/FIFA/PES on it before they convert.

Also, I don't believe there are going to me a large number of mulit-console gamers until there are a few price drops.

    And I agree to a point.:D

    My only thing is many casual gamers have come to know the Playstation name, and to them, it is synonomous with gaming. When they decide to go "next gen" (as many still have PS2/Xbox), are they going to flock to the name Playstation, or are they going to choose the cheaper option for GTA IV? It will be interesting to see how it plays out, and how the two companies try to drive up the sales. 

Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. JDW_games

Not yet. They are still loosing money on every PS3 so I doubt they would do a price cut. 

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]People who don't care about the 360 won't care what its price drops to as long as the PS3s price drops as well. Not everyone judges the consoles based off each other, and not everyone only buys one system.

SpruceCaboose

I agree to a point. I believe people/gamers follow game franchises more than the logo on the console. I think a ton of gamers are waiting for a console that has a GTA and a Madden/FIFA/PES on it before they convert.

Also, I don't believe there are going to me a large number of mulit-console gamers until there are a few price drops.

    And I agree to a point.:D

    My only thing is many casual gamers have come to know the Playstation name, and to them, it is synonomous with gaming. When they decide to go "next gen" (as many still have PS2/Xbox), are they going to flock to the name Playstation, or are they going to choose the cheaper option for GTA IV? It will be interesting to see how it plays out, and how the two companies try to drive up the sales. 

[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. Supafly1

Not yet. They are still loosing money on every PS3 so I doubt they would do a price cut. 

I don't think that Sony wants to keep losing money on every PS3 made. You cannot assume that they will drop the price just because they become cheaper to make, not if it means Sony continuing to take a loss on each PS3.

The PS3 is still selling. It's not flying off shelves or anything, but it is still moving along and I can only see a big reactive price cut  occuring if the console is selling like the Xbox 360 is in Japan, or if Microsoft suddenly lowers the price of the Xbox 360. Since neither scenario is occuring right now, I fully expect Sony to continue to price the console at $599 until production costs of the console come way down, so much so that they will easily be able to absorb a price cut. But that situation has not yet happened, and probably will not happen until 2008.

The thing is, even when Sony drops the price the PS3 is still going to be somewhat expensive. It will always be a great value, but I don't think consumers are yet comfortable with a $499 video game console. $200-$300 is still the niche market price. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Premium 360 enters that price range.

They will not drop the price of a system that sells. Not until they want to expand the market. Sure you can say that PS3 sales are not as good as they might want them to be or the same as the Wii's. But if you take the revenue made by PS3, Wii, and 360 you will see that they are very close. Sony only has to sell 1/3 as many consoles as Nintendo to take in the same amount of money. Sure Nintendo makes a profit on each console and Sony loses this is just another way to look @ it. PS2 was $399 when it release? I think? That was a lot of money back then and people said "no way" but those people are only the one that talk the loudest they are not the ones that have the money. Once again I will show you all this site for how a company will base price and market share over time. I am sure that all consoles will be very close in the end (Japan the exception for 360).

 http://www.mitsue.co.jp/english/case/concept/02.html

Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. JDW_games

What is your title at Sony?  Just curious as you seem to be making decisions for them. :roll: 

[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. Supafly1

Not yet. They are still loosing money on every PS3 so I doubt they would do a price cut.

They will not drop the price of a system that sells. Not until they want to expand the market. Sure you can say that PS3 sales are not as good as they might want them to be or the same as the Wii's. But if you take the revenue made by PS3, Wii, and 360 you will see that they are very close. Sony only has to sell 1/3 as many consoles as Nintendo to take in the same amount of money. Sure Nintendo makes a profit on each console and Sony loses this is just another way to look @ it. PS2 was $399 when it release? I think? That was a lot of money back then and people said "no way" but those people are only the one that talk the loudest they are not the ones that have the money. Once again I will show you all this site for how a company will base price and market share over time. I am sure that all consoles will be very close in the end (Japan the exception for 360).

 http://www.mitsue.co.jp/english/case/concept/02.html

taylormadederek

This is right. This is the same thing that will happen again. Branding is very important and as much as I don't like Sony as a company they are "The Brand" right now for gaming. I enjoy all the consoles from all companies....ligit ones...no ngage crap. Listen to what his man says!taylormadederek

[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. cakeorrdeath

Maybe, maybe not, just speculation at this stage. 360 production drop has dropped significantly since launch. Still no price drop.

What's the difference between buying a 360 Elite which is like $470 and a PS3 that will be around $500 in the near future? Not much. I'll pay the $30 extra bucks for the Blu Ray and games like Metal Gear and Resistence. JDW_games

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[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. Chris-Hansen

Maybe, maybe not, just speculation at this stage. 360 production drop has dropped significantly since launch. Still no price drop.

DEBT: (n)/ money or goods or services owed by one person to another.

Who does MS owe?  Themselves? :|

Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. JDW_games

In the mean time, the 360 will stay the same price.  I mean, Why on earth would you drop your price when they are owning the PS3 in sales?

This is very true but it is hard to break a brand. If the company does release a bad product or an unpopular product then that can do it. However Sony has its hands into everything. Much harder brand to damage. Don't get me wrong...I think that there brand is crap. I have had a number of different products from them and they all break....bad quality...but not in consumer minds I guess. Can you say "Disc Read Error".......sigh.taylormadederek

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[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. Yellow_Rose

Maybe, maybe not, just speculation at this stage. 360 production drop has dropped significantly since launch. Still no price drop.

DEBT: (n)/ money or goods or services owed by one person to another.

Who does MS owe?  Themselves? :|

What's the difference between buying a 360 Elite which is like $470 and a PS3 that will be around $500 in the near future? Not much. I'll pay the $30 extra bucks for the Blu Ray and games like Metal Gear and Resistence. JDW_games

Sorry the PS3 is $600 and a price drop is not coming in the near future.

[QUOTE="JDW_games"]Production cost drop = Price drop. It's definitely coming because Sony will turn up the heat for the fall and holiday sales competitions. AgentVX

In the mean time, the 360 will stay the same price.  I mean, Why on earth would you drop your price when they are owning the PS3 in sales?