Playstation 5/Xbox 4: do we already have a PC as powerful?

The reason behind Sony and MS not spending more on the consoles and selling them for less is a waste. Look at last generation MS spent billions on research and the prototype hardware used in the 360 and while designing it they skimped out on cooling and quality of material to save costs. guess where that lead too nearly 4 years of high failure rates a threat of their product removed from market if they didnt include a warranty after 1st year. MS lost billions in those first few years and didnt start making profit on the 360 until 5 years after release. Sony while they didnt have hardware failures to drove to no profit it was the serious amount of expensive hardware inside like the bluray. Sony built factories for the Cell thinking it was going to be their all in one cpu for all things but it didnt turn out they way.

They learned their lesson of diminishing returns.

with 2 crossfired R9-295X2 you already have 2x PS5

Luckily for Sony and Microsoft they are run by intelligent people who know they won't be successful with a $600 console with no profit just to appeal some really rabid fanboys on the internet who wouldn't buy their products in the first place.

A game built around 2005 console hardware being played on a gpu from 2008? Your point?

Will crossfired r490's playing the next crossgen Ass Creed be at all impressive?

So funny they deleted the decimating thread.

yes it will lose something, and buying a overprice card like that is the stupdist thing to do

but its pretty impressive with bf3

Yet in 2018 pc gamers will be waiting for PS 5 to get the most out of their pc's.

I don't think so.

Let's just hope the next consoles get more than one good game a year though....

Someone actually agreed with me. I guess this thread won't need to be deleted.

this forum is flooded with PC people. they really should just post in the PC forum

why?

wow, did you cause a thread to be deleted?

I just find it amusing that he posted a camshot of a video game on PC.

Sometimes I get the feeling that leandrro doesn't know how to PC

His other thread is clear evidence of this.

@scottpsfan14: Just have a look at his other thread. Its a riot.

Do you have another theory for why the pc decimation thread got deleted?

@scottpsfan14: I agree. Actually, PS5 doesn't need exclusive graphics APIs to be better than the likes of R9 295X2. Last-gen is a clear example of this, PS360 were getting games even though they were stuck with DX9. Yet even DX10 cards can't even start Crysis 3.

can't read it, but it would usually mean someone went over the top offensive

Nintendo Virus? Sony and MS are straying so far from what Nintendo wants to do it's not even funny. The 2 big consoles are just glorified PCs for gullible/lazy people. The WiiU actually has an identity.

But yeah, CONSIDERING what Sony and Ms want to do, which is create more downgraded PC games (all multiplats) for glorified PCs, they are doing a terrible job. You gotta get actually good hardware if you want to market your shit as powerful.... All a bunch of lies lol.

You're agreeing with me but also being oblivious to it.

If it's a 4-5 year gen then very likely the enthusiast grade GPUs might be the low end GPUs in the next gen consoles. If it's a 8 year gen, then I really don't know.

I have to say though, I think the new technologies coming from Nvidia and AMD within the next couple of years are going to be really exciting, coupled with a new standard with the DX12 api, I'm looking forward to what the PC does. I think it'll be at this point the gap starts to widen across the low to mid range on the PC away from what the consoles are capable of now.

Some of these technologies will trickle down into mobile devices like touch pads or whatever which will then start to catch up with current gen consoles in three or so years possibly.

pc gaming is niche market, also they beg A LOT

Yeah we probably do. The directX improvements, going by the past, will be negligible. Games will still be DirectX 11 based at the most, because you won't want to miss out on the rapidly expanding PC market.

Smells like elitism in here. Disgusting!

depends on alot of Things.

If they figure out how to make componants require less power for performance, and expell less heat, then no.

Consoles are mostly held back on those two. Ofcourse there is going to be some new and updated API, but nothing in the World would say that they would need Unique hardware either (shaders and such).

5 years is a long time in the World of technology, heck as some people already mentioned, there might not be a NeXT gen of consoles at all, but rather a service built into tv/phone/whatnot.

But in all likelyhood then no PCs of today would not equal the PS5 or Xbox(2?). Since it would dictate that the evolution of hardware would simply stop.

I do doubt however that we will ever see consoles like the PS3 or 360 Again, so the NeXT gen of COnsoles, will likely allready have PCs that surpass them on release.

There are some pc games that have moved away from using the directx 10 api but their console counter parts are scaled down or sometimes even dumbed down to run on the ps360. It's not because ps3 and 360 are more capable, they are easily outperformed even by the first gen of dx10 cards. Developers do whatever they have do to make their games available on consoles because there is often more money to be made on greater sales.
And crysis 3 can run on dx10 hardware, there is a workaround.

Stop trying to smell the internet, nothing good can come from that

can you see the difference from dx10 to dx11 just by looking at Battlefield 3 running on the HD4870X2 ?

the video proves that a monster dual chip GPU from 5 years before next gen release has about the same power as a next gen console (or 50% more than X1) but the real clueless people cant get it

smell the glove

Failure rates were more to do with MSs inexperience with custom hardware and rushing the device to market than anything else. The original Xbox was made with off the shelf parts with minor customisations.

Sony's curse was their own complicated designs, but that has nothing to do with pushing hardware. I maintain with a simpler CPU Sony would have out-right won the gen because developers and consumers would never have jumped ship. Games would have had MUCH smoother development.

This in my opinion is the one gen they needed to push the hardware, because the difference from last gen is blurred. When we got the Xbox 360 and PS3, the Xbox and PS2 graphics looked shitty in comparison, yet right now, those same 8-9 year old consoles are highly playable next to the current gen. That is a shocking statement to make.

This is why I think streaming is the future for consoles, because MS and Sony can't afford to give us consoles that compare with mid range PCs in a £350 budget. If they offer a streaming service though, we possibly can enjoy high end level of technology all the time.

At 13 to 18 FPS. Not to mention how nasty overpriced the rig is going to be to get remotely anything playing at 8K.

And consoles can barely play 1080p at 30 fps... your point?

If you're going to brag, brag about consistent shit mayne.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

PC gaming already has 8k gaming

At 13 to 18 FPS. Not to mention how nasty overpriced the rig is going to be to get remotely anything playing at 8K.

And consoles can barely play 1080p at 30 fps... your point?

If you're going to brag, brag about consistent shit mayne.

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Definitely not. Over the course of this gen people will see how the hardware simply wasn't up to the typical generational jump. People won't be duped, especially since more and more people will be knowledgeable about the hardware they are buying.

By the time they release another console, GPU tech will have advanced to a degree where even a mid-range $150 GPU will significantly outperform something like a 780, so no...has nothing to do with consoles or whatever, and everything to do with GPU advancements. Let's not forget that Sony/Microsoft simply repackage existing GPU tech into their consoles.

This wasn't the case with last-gen.

I doubt it. It's too early for that, probably in the next 3 years or so we will.