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#301 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
[QUOTE="Loegi"]No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.WilliamRLBaker
oh its accurate its a complete fact if you dont release your pc game on steam then it gets pirated to hell and back.

Fact? I see no proof hillbilly.
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#302 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Loegi"]No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.clyde46
oh its accurate its a complete fact if you dont release your pc game on steam then it gets pirated to hell and back.

Fact? I see no proof hillbilly.

I'm curious as to how calling him a hillbilly strengthens your argument.
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#303 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] oh its accurate its a complete fact if you dont release your pc game on steam then it gets pirated to hell and back.

Fact? I see no proof hillbilly.

I'm curious as to how calling him a hillbilly strengthens your argument.

I'm curious how piracy is even an issue in this forum.
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#304 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

I'm curious as to how calling him a hillbilly strengthens your argument.lowe0

I'm curious as to why you continue to straddle a fence, that you clearly fall on one side of. His argument was actually much better, as it called into question the legitimacy of Baker's claim... Something you have been seen doing to numerous "Hermits".

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#305 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -
[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Fact? I see no proof hillbilly.

I'm curious as to how calling him a hillbilly strengthens your argument.

I'm curious how piracy is even an issue in this forum.

Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.
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#306 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

I'm curious how piracy is even an issue in this forum.MBirdy88

The forum is to debate which system is "better", and piracy is a known detractor of all systems. To a larger extent for some, than others.

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#307 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm curious as to how calling him a hillbilly strengthens your argument.lundy86_4

I'm curious as to why you continue to straddle a fence, that you clearly fall on one side of. His argument was actually much better, as it called into question the legitimacy of Baker's claim... Something you have been seen doing to numerous "Hermits".

This again? I'm firmly on the consolite side of the fence, and I don't claim otherwise; nor to I claim to be unbiased (though I don't ignore people's posts just because they're fellow consolites).
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#308 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

This again? I'm firmly on the consolite side of the fence, and I don't claim otherwise; nor to I claim to be unbiased (though I don't ignore people's posts just because they're fellow consolites).lowe0

Yes. This again. I've seen you continually try to straddle an imaginary fence over the years... You also attempt to focus on undermining false claims, to which, you ignored Baker's post.

Now, this is System Wars, where the ToU has been changed. Clyde questioned the legitimacy of Baker's claim, and yes, called him a hillbilly. Big deal.

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#309 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]I'm curious how piracy is even an issue in this forum.lundy86_4

The forum is to debate which system is "better", and piracy is a known detractor of all systems. To a larger extent for some, than others.

Its a sad last resort to slander a platform, it has nothing to do with quality, its just an excuse for console trolls because they have nothing reallt tangible to fight back with. Case and point, the typical console trolls are in here trying to make this some sort of ownage.

130k sales for 2 indie devs is soooo ownage right consolites? :roll: , probably didnt shove it on the consoles because your precious companies milk developers into the grounds.

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#310 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

Its a sad last resort to slander a platform, it has nothing to do with quality, its just an excuse for console trolls because they have nothing reallt tangible to fight back with. Case and point, the typical console trolls are in here trying to make this some sort of ownage.

130k sales for 2 indie devs is soooo ownage right consolites? :roll: , probably didnt shove it on the consoles because your precious companies milk developers into the grounds.

MBirdy88

Not really. It's a legitimate sticking point. Don't attempt to trivialize what it is.

Trolls gathering around a topic hardly proves your point. System Wars is largely full of trolls.

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This is a legitimate issue. However, that being said, there are some toolbag trolls who tend to gather around the PC topics.

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#311 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]This again? I'm firmly on the consolite side of the fence, and I don't claim otherwise; nor to I claim to be unbiased (though I don't ignore people's posts just because they're fellow consolites).lundy86_4

Yes. This again. I've seen you continually try to straddle an imaginary fence over the years... You also attempt to focus on undermining false claims, to which, you ignored Baker's post.

Now, this is System Wars, where the ToU has been changed. Clyde questioned the legitimacy of Baker's claim, and yes, called him a hillbilly. Big deal.

Honestly? I didn't read Baker's post. Not saw it and looked the other way, flat-out skimmed right past it. I'm not sure how that makes it wrong to call Clyde out for an unnecessary personal attack, so perhaps you'd like to make a case for it?
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#312 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

Honestly? I didn't read Baker's post. Not saw it and looked the other way, flat-out skimmed right past it. I'm not sure how that makes it wrong to call Clyde out for an unnecessary personal attack, so perhaps you'd like to make a case for it?lowe0

Nothing wrong with that, though it's a little odd, considering it was in the quote chain.

I've already stated why "personal attacks" are allowed, and are also commonly used. It's System Wars. Also, Baker's rather prone to flailing insults himself. Altogether, I would advise you just ignore it, and attack the argument itself... Or don't quote the poster.

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#313 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26934 posts) -

Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.lowe0

Go from there. Thats pretty much it, summarized

Discussion over:?

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#314 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26934 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]This again? I'm firmly on the consolite side of the fence, and I don't claim otherwise; nor to I claim to be unbiased (though I don't ignore people's posts just because they're fellow consolites).lundy86_4

Yes. This again. I've seen you continually try to straddle an imaginary fence over the years... You also attempt to focus on undermining false claims, to which, you ignored Baker's post.

Now, this is System Wars, where the ToU has been changed. Clyde questioned the legitimacy of Baker's claim, and yes, called him a hillbilly. Big deal.

Yeah idd, big deal. Baker calls people morons and idiots all of the time. I never seen lowe respond to that. Or ask him the same question as he did clyde.

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#315 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]This again? I'm firmly on the consolite side of the fence, and I don't claim otherwise; nor to I claim to be unbiased (though I don't ignore people's posts just because they're fellow consolites).R4gn4r0k

Yes. This again. I've seen you continually try to straddle an imaginary fence over the years... You also attempt to focus on undermining false claims, to which, you ignored Baker's post.

Now, this is System Wars, where the ToU has been changed. Clyde questioned the legitimacy of Baker's claim, and yes, called him a hillbilly. Big deal.

Yeah idd, big deal. Baker calls people morons and idiots all of the time. I never seen lowe respond to that. Or ask him the same question as he did clyde.

Tell you what. The next time someone calls someone a bad name, just run and get me, and I'll make them sit in timeout until they're ready to apologize. Or hey, you could just call them on it directly, instead of worrying about whether or not I saw it.
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#316 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

Yeah idd, big deal. Baker calls people morons and idiots all of the time. I never seen lowe respond to that. Or ask him the same question as he did clyde.

R4gn4r0k

Exactly. This forum is wrought with insults nowadays, and Baker's definitely not adverse to using them... "Your a moron"... I love the glaring error.

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#317 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yes. This again. I've seen you continually try to straddle an imaginary fence over the years... You also attempt to focus on undermining false claims, to which, you ignored Baker's post.

Now, this is System Wars, where the ToU has been changed. Clyde questioned the legitimacy of Baker's claim, and yes, called him a hillbilly. Big deal.

lowe0

Yeah idd, big deal. Baker calls people morons and idiots all of the time. I never seen lowe respond to that. Or ask him the same question as he did clyde.

Tell you what. The next time someone calls someone a bad name, just run and get me, and I'll make them sit in timeout until they're ready to apologize. Or hey, you could just call them on it directly, instead of worrying about whether or not I saw it.

Lowel, you are a filthy console hillbilly peasant. There you go, I have probably extended this thread by 500 posts.
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#318 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26934 posts) -

Tell you what. The next time someone calls someone a bad name, just run and get me, and I'll make them sit in timeout until they're ready to apologize. Or hey, you could just call them on it directly, instead of worrying about whether or not I saw it. lowe0

You brought it up. You responded to someone soley for the insult and not everything else he said in his post.

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#319 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26934 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Yeah idd, big deal. Baker calls people morons and idiots all of the time. I never seen lowe respond to that. Or ask him the same question as he did clyde.

lundy86_4

Exactly. This forum is wrought with insults nowadays, and Baker's definitely not adverse to using them... "Your a moron"... I love the glaring error.

I think that is the reason why clyde mentioned it. Because he calls names himself all of the time.

I'm still not for calling people names, but clyde should not be called out for calling William anything. Let the first one without sins throw the stone or something like that:P

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#320 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Tell you what. The next time someone calls someone a bad name, just run and get me, and I'll make them sit in timeout until they're ready to apologize. Or hey, you could just call them on it directly, instead of worrying about whether or not I saw it. R4gn4r0k

You brought it up. You responded to someone soley for the insult and not everything else he said in his post.

I did bring it up. What I'm wondering is why I'm getting criticized for it when you could have criticized either Clyde's insult, or any of Baker's alleged prior insults, instead.
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#321 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

I think that is the reason why clyde mentioned it. Because he calls names himself all of the time.

I'm still not for calling people names, but clyde should not be called out for calling William anything. Let the first one without sins throw the stone or something like that:P

R4gn4r0k

Hehe, personally I find it all rather fun. The forum has gone to sh*t, but if you can't beat 'em, you may as well wade waist-deep in the sh*t and start flingin'!

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#322 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Tell you what. The next time someone calls someone a bad name, just run and get me, and I'll make them sit in timeout until they're ready to apologize. Or hey, you could just call them on it directly, instead of worrying about whether or not I saw it. lowe0

You brought it up. You responded to someone soley for the insult and not everything else he said in his post.

I did bring it up. What I'm wondering is why I'm getting criticized for it when you could have criticized either Clyde's insult, or any of Baker's alleged prior insults, instead.

Because we don't mind insults, you just have any chance to have a go about nothing related to the topic. stop white knighting a meant to be harsh forum. Baker insults people AND actually DOES look like a friggin hill billy, whats the big deal, can't you handle banter? wtf is the point in picking up on this minor crap in every thread, oh wait, its only against hermits.
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#323 Posted by Iantheone (8242 posts) -
[QUOTE="lowe0"] Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.

It affects all platforms yes, but none of which really in a bad way. You still need to buy the platform to buy them. Don't see how legitimate players are harmed, they normally get better support for their games and get multiplayer. The only Devs that are harmed are the ones who can't deal with this change in the industry. The same goes for distributors. Steam has never been bigger
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#324 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.

It affects all platforms yes, but none of which really in a bad way. You still need to buy the platform to buy them. Don't see how legitimate players are harmed, they normally get better support for their games and get multiplayer. The only Devs that are harmed are the ones who can't deal with this change in the industry. The same goes for distributors. Steam has never been bigger

This. If piracy was killing PC gaming then we would not be in first place, not have the most games, and not generate the most revanue. and games like this will not be EXCLUSIVE to th eplatform. Lowel is hiding behind his little troll mask so ignore him. He knows full well this thread was made to attack hermits, he manages to try and convert it to a honest discussion, what a load of crap.
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#325 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -
A little banter and it all goes to sh!t.
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#326 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26934 posts) -

I did bring it up. What I'm wondering is why I'm getting criticized for it when you could have criticized either Clyde's insult, or any of Baker's alleged prior insults, instead.lowe0

Because I'm not like you.

Where am I critizing you exactly ? I'm just stating some things.

Hehe, personally I find it all rather fun. The forum has gone to sh*t, but if you can't beat 'em, you may as well wade waist-deep in the sh*t and start flingin'!

lundy86_4

I think its rather childish because it doesn't accomplish anything. "Oh you don't like something that I like, you are an idiot"

I've never seen you use insults.

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#327 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
A little banter and it all goes to sh!t.clyde46
I will never respond to him before others now, but so many people still bite his crap (me included in this thread) it only takes one person to respond to his initial post to spark this rubbish, can we like, not trigger it?
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#328 Posted by Riadon2 (1598 posts) -

Successful-troll-is-successful.jpg.

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#329 Posted by Loegi (1692 posts) -
A little banter and it all goes to sh!t.clyde46
It went to sh*t the second somebody mentioned piracy.
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#330 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -
[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.

It affects all platforms yes, but none of which really in a bad way. You still need to buy the platform to buy them. Don't see how legitimate players are harmed, they normally get better support for their games and get multiplayer. The only Devs that are harmed are the ones who can't deal with this change in the industry. The same goes for distributors. Steam has never been bigger

Already explained how legitimate customers are harmed - whatever doesn't get made because the developer is either insufficiently motivated or simply runs out of resources.
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#331 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

I think its rather childish because it doesn't accomplish anything. "Oh you don't like something that I like, you are an idiot"

I've never seen you use insults.

R4gn4r0k

Oh, i'd never use those kinds of insults... That's just sad.

I do use the odd one, but it's mostly towards the complete boobs on this site. Legitimate posters can expect semi-serious responses from me :P

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#332 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

A little banter and it all goes to sh!t.clyde46

Look what you did, clyde :x

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#333 Posted by loosingENDS (11793 posts) -

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If piracy is 30% on consoles, it is like 99,9% on PC

R4gn4r0k

...Aaaaaand loosingENDS is back to trolling. That was faster than I thought

Piracy on PC is huge

Skyrim sold 1 million on PC and 6+ million on 360

Witcher 2 sold 1 million on PC and 4 million were pirated by CD PRoject numbers

It is really terrible

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#334 Posted by clyde46 (49048 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

If piracy is 30% on consoles, it is like 99,9% on PC

loosingENDS

...Aaaaaand loosingENDS is back to trolling. That was faster than I thought

Piracy on PC is huge

Skyrim sold 1 million on PC and 6+ million on 360

Witcher 2 sold 1 million on PC and 4 million were pirated by CD PRoject numbers

It is really terrible

No proof champ.
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#335 Posted by MrYaotubo (2880 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

If piracy is 30% on consoles, it is like 99,9% on PC

loosingENDS

...Aaaaaand loosingENDS is back to trolling. That was faster than I thought

Piracy on PC is huge

Skyrim sold 1 million on PC and 6+ million on 360

Witcher 2 sold 1 million on PC and 4 million were pirated by CD PRoject numbers

It is really terrible

Skyrim sold almost 4 million copies on the PC,2.3Millions retail and rest DD,TW2 has sold around 2Millions on the PC and 400k on the 360 lol. And those numbers of the witcher 2 you mentioned were proven innacurate by CDP themselves,andf the biggest proof was that by the end of the year among the top 5 most pirated games TW2 wasn´t there and the lowest on the top 5 had 1.7M copies pirated,so TW2 had even lessthan that. And with piracy so huge yet Diablo 3 completely destroyed in sales pretty much every 360 and PS3 exclsuives in just two months! :lol:
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#336 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

Piracy on PC is huge

Skyrim sold 1 million on PC and 6+ million on 360

Witcher 2 sold 1 million on PC and 4 million were pirated by CD PRoject numbers

It is really terrible

loosingENDS

Source for these figures?

So, The Witcher 2 sold more on PC, even with the supposed extensive pirating? lol.

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#337 Posted by santoron (8583 posts) -

Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.lowe0

So you're debating ad nauseam something that is ubiquitous, and you cannot impact.

In other words you're blowing just to blow.

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#338 Posted by santoron (8583 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

I think its rather childish because it doesn't accomplish anything. "Oh you don't like something that I like, you are an idiot"

I've never seen you use insults.

lundy86_4

Oh, i'd never use those kinds of insults... That's just sad.

I do use the odd one, but it's mostly towards the complete boobs on this site. Legitimate posters can expect semi-serious responses from me :P

Until the bar opens! Amirite?

bazinga.gif

Bazinga!:D

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#339 Posted by lundy86_4 (48560 posts) -

Until the bar opens! Amirite?

bazinga.gif

Bazinga!:D

santoron

This is true... Then, it's only people who deserve it :P

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#340 Posted by Cruxis27 (2057 posts) -

He's just happy people are playing it. True story.

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#341 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Pull up a chair, then, and join the discussion. We're talking about what platforms it impacts (all of them), how legitimate players and developers alike are harmed, and what can actually be done about it (nothing, since they'll crack it anyway and all you'll get for your trouble is a bill from your DRM provider and angry customers with false positives). So, go from there.santoron

So you're debating ad nauseam something that is ubiquitous, and you cannot impact.

In other words you're blowing just to blow.

While I find I agree with some of the broad strokes put forth on the topic of piracy by PC gamers, I've still found plenty to debate in this thread. If I'm not going to argue, what's the point of posting here?
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#342 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The question wasn't whether ads were present. It's whether we're capable of purchasing games without a million dollar campaign behind them. Do you have any conclusive evidence that we're not capable of that?lowe0

No, not really since I didn't do an investigation... I was only talking about Dishonored.

Okay, so if you don't have anything to say about Riadon's statement, what's your point?

I was talking about Dishonored, are you following ?

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#343 Posted by PublicNuisance (4582 posts) -

Funny that the developer doesn't seem to care that much


"And I definitely want people to experience the game the way it's meant to be experienced. No matter how they got a hold of it.""

He is trying to turn the pirates into paying customers through kindness.

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#344 Posted by RyuRanVII (4254 posts) -

Hotline Miami sold more than 100k copies and it's getting a sequel. Even with all the piracy people can't deny it's success on PC.

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#345 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

No, not really since I didn't do an investigation... I was only talking about Dishonored.

Bebi_vegeta

Okay, so if you don't have anything to say about Riadon's statement, what's your point?

I was talking about Dishonored, are you following ?

To confirm, then, do you think console gamers were capable of purchasing Dishonored without the marketing campaign? BTW, since the original statement said "only", this is a yes or no question.

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#346 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Okay, so if you don't have anything to say about Riadon's statement, what's your point?lowe0

I was talking about Dishonored, are you following ?

To confirm, then, do you think console gamers were capable of purchasing Dishonored without the marketing campaign? BTW, since the original statement said "only", this is a yes or no question.

Probably... I don't know. When I was a more of a console gamer, I'd just go at the store and see what's the game with the most boxes on the shelfs.

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#347 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I was talking about Dishonored, are you following ?

Bebi_vegeta

To confirm, then, do you think console gamers were capable of purchasing Dishonored without the marketing campaign? BTW, since the original statement said "only", this is a yes or no question.

Probably... I don't know. When I was a more of a console gamer, I'd just go at the store and see what's the game with the most boxes on the shelfs.

Follow up question: are PC gamers' reasons for purchasing Dishonored any different than console gamers'?
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#348 Posted by Chris_Williams (14882 posts) -

Hotline Miami sold more than 100k copies and it's getting a sequel. Even with all the piracy people can't deny it's success on PC.

RyuRanVII
...a indie game developer not caring about game sales is not the same as a AAA developer who needs to sale a certain amount of copies to keep the lights on. Indie developers rarely have anything to lose, oh people don't buy my game then its back to the drawing board. Big titles with alot of people working on it don't have that luxury, people can lose their jobs. But of course you guys don't care about that, you take a few indie developers and see them saying they don't care about piracy and think all developers think like that.
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#349 Posted by MBirdy88 (12113 posts) -
[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Hotline Miami sold more than 100k copies and it's getting a sequel. Even with all the piracy people can't deny it's success on PC.

Chris_Williams
...a indie game developer not caring about game sales is not the same as a AAA developer who needs to sale a certain amount of copies to keep the lights on. Indie developers rarely have anything to lose, oh people don't buy my game then its back to the drawing board. Big titles with alot of people working on it don't have that luxury, people can lose their jobs. But of course you guys don't care about that, you take a few indie developers and see them saying they don't care about piracy and think all developers think like that.

Whoa, talk about spinning a topic to suit yourself. The fact that PC still gets the most ammount of big releases tells us ALL that the problem is overblown.
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#350 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] To confirm, then, do you think console gamers were capable of purchasing Dishonored without the marketing campaign? BTW, since the original statement said "only", this is a yes or no question.

lowe0

Probably... I don't know. When I was a more of a console gamer, I'd just go at the store and see what's the game with the most boxes on the shelfs.

Follow up question: are PC gamers' reasons for purchasing Dishonored any different than console gamers'?

Probably not. But the thing is, it's hard to compare. It seems console and PC are in the same crowd. I mean why does moderne warfare sell so good on console and so bad on PC.