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#1 KBFloYd
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http://analogaddiction.org/2013/09/20/fable-creator-gtav-sales-not-impressive/

Speaking at a mobile innovation conference with Mobile Entertainment last night, the developer said It [GTAV] will achieve around $1 billion in revenue on consoles in just one month, after noting the games popularity.

Sounds impressive doesnt it? Molynuex asked rhetorically before adding No. Thats not impressive.

Molynuex continued by comparing the sales of GTAV, a big budget AAA title to the Mobile platform and mobile games who he says are achieving between $3 million and $5 million a day.

That is impressive, Molynuex concluded.

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#2 lilnazar
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Molyneux is just butthurt because he haven't made great games recently that sell .

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http://analogaddiction.org/2013/09/20/fable-creator-gtav-sales-not-impressive/

Speaking at a mobile innovation conference with Mobile Entertainment last night, the developer said It [GTAV] will achieve around $1 billion in revenue on consoles in just one month, after noting the games popularity.

Sounds impressive doesnt it? Molynuex asked rhetorically before adding No. Thats not impressive.

Molynuex continued by comparing the sales of GTAV, a big budget AAA title to the Mobile platform and mobile games who he says are achieving between $3 million and $5 million a day.

That is impressive, Molynuex concluded.

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#4 Lumpy311
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But GTA V actually took effort.

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#6 lundy86_4
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Different platforms, with different markets/budgets/audiences/userbase/etc. It's absolutely impressive, though it seems that he's comparing production cost, to total revenue.

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#7 AvatarMan96
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What a moron. It's not like $800 million made in one day is impressive. Or a world record.

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most overrated dev of all timestereointegrity

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

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#9 nameless12345
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most overrated dev of all timestereointegrity

 

Before he started making console games, he made great games...

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#10 PhazonBlazer
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You know what else isn't impressive?

Molyneux's games.

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#11 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timeBluRayHiDef

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

 

Except Carmack isn't a game dev but a programmer...

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Molynuex was genuinely good. "was" being the key word here.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timenameless12345

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

 

Except Carmack isn't a game dev but a programmer...

Molynuex isn't a game developer either then.
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#15 meetroid8
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You know what else isn't impressive?

Molyneux's games.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timenameless12345

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

 

Except Carmack isn't a game dev but a programmer...

I think you're confusing designer with developer.  Anybody that is part of the development team is a dev.

Molyneux is a game designer.

Carmack is a programmer.

Both are developers.

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#18 lamprey263
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okay, it took me a second get get what he's saying a game like GTA V takes 5 years to make, the payoff is $1 billion in profits yet the social and mobile games can earn $3-5 million per day, so in the 5 year period it took Rockstar to make and sell GTA for that $1 billion in profits, the social and mobile games could have earned themselves between $5.5-9.1 billion, that's the point he's making I had no idea mobile and social games made so much, what games is he talking about that do so well?
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#19 Lumpy311
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okay, it took me a second get get what he's saying a game like GTA V takes 5 years to make, the payoff is $1 billion in profits yet the social and mobile games can earn $3-5 million per day, so in the 5 year period it took Rockstar to make and sell GTA for that $1 billion in profits, the social and mobile games could have earned themselves between $5.5-9.1 billion, that's the point he's making I had no idea mobile and social games made so much, what games is he talking about that do so well?lamprey263

You know, the one that doesn't exist.

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#20 AutoPilotOn
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He also said Black and White was gonna be good game back in the day and then I bought it and it sucked.. He lies.
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okay, it took me a second get get what he's saying a game like GTA V takes 5 years to make, the payoff is $1 billion in profits yet the social and mobile games can earn $3-5 million per day, so in the 5 year period it took Rockstar to make and sell GTA for that $1 billion in profits, the social and mobile games could have earned themselves between $5.5-9.1 billion, that's the point he's making I had no idea mobile and social games made so much, what games is he talking about that do so well?lamprey263

No idea. I expect this to be the absolute  limit  of potential. Mobile games make money, for sure.

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#22 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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So he's comparing sales of just 1 game which are very impressive to an entire mobile platform sales?  Idiot moron.  You know what isn't impressive.  The fable franchise.  Always was and always will be a crappy action adventure that tries to be an extremely dumbed down RPG.

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#23 robokill
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what an idiot. It's going to go down as the best selling video game ever and Molyneux says something like that.
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#24 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]okay, it took me a second get get what he's saying a game like GTA V takes 5 years to make, the payoff is $1 billion in profits yet the social and mobile games can earn $3-5 million per day, so in the 5 year period it took Rockstar to make and sell GTA for that $1 billion in profits, the social and mobile games could have earned themselves between $5.5-9.1 billion, that's the point he's making I had no idea mobile and social games made so much, what games is he talking about that do so well?Lumpy311

You know, the one that doesn't exist.

well, I really don't know much to know how true that is, after all every time I play Angry Birds (I'm playing the free version), I'm always getting bombarded with ads, and that earns them money, I imagine there's other free to play social and mobile games that are popular that are earning them lots of revenues but I'm not sure if he's talking about one game, or one studio/publisher that's pulling in that much, or if that's how much the mobile/social gaming earns all together
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I think this guy speaks for all of us on this matter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4djoefCHWFQ

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He also said Black and White was gonna be good game back in the day and then I bought it and it sucked.. He lies.AutoPilotOn

 

So it's his problem you got no taste? :?

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]He also said Black and White was gonna be good game back in the day and then I bought it and it sucked.. He lies.nameless12345

 

So it's his problem you got no taste? :?

You liked Black and White? I hated it, but then again I was expected alot because of his hype.
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timeBluRayHiDef

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

I sort of have to agree with this. I got nothing against Carmack, but people have elevated him to God like status because of a game he made ages ago. Im not trying to downplay his achievements, but It would be nice to see some new stuff of the same caliber.
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#29 Alpha_S_
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Also from Peter Molyneux:

"I'd like to thank the press, by the way, for listening to my stuff," said Molyneux while accepting an academy fellowship at the annual BAFTA ceremony in London earlier this evening.

"Sorry - I've slightly over-promised on things on occasion," he continued.

"I could name at least 10 features in games that I've made up to stop journalists going to sleep and I really apologise to the team for that."

Source.  Yeah, a guy who admits to bsing his way through interviews is a great source of information.  How well have your games been doing Peter?

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#30 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]He also said Black and White was gonna be good game back in the day and then I bought it and it sucked.. He lies.AutoPilotOn

 

So it's his problem you got no taste? :?

You liked Black and White? I hated it, but then again I was expected alot because of his hype.

 

Yes. Great game.

Might have gotten a little boring and frustrating at times but great concept.

Infact, thanks for reminding me on that game becuase I'll put in into my avatar. ;)

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#31 lundy86_4
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Also from Peter Molyneux:

"I'd like to thank the press, by the way, for listening to my stuff," said Molyneux while accepting an academy fellowship at the annual BAFTA ceremony in London earlier this evening.

"Sorry - I've slightly over-promised on things on occasion," he continued.

"I could name at least 10 features in games that I've made up to stop journalists going to sleep and I really apologise to the team for that."Alpha_S_

Source.  Yeah, a guy who admits to bsing his way through interviews is a great source of information.  How well have your games been doing Peter?

Yeah, if his numbers are off, then it's BS. If they're accurate, it's simply whatever the f*ck, somebody, wants to market to.

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#32 SaltyMeatballs
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Mobile games come and go, GTA has been here for decades now and keeps on chugging. F*ck your mobile games.
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#33 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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How is molyneux famous? He didn't deliver on any of the games he released...

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#35 Lumpy311
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Molyneux sounds butthurt :P Truth is GTA5 hit the $1 billion revenue mark in just 3 days, and in a couple more it'll achieve that in pure profit (game cost around $256 million) and just keep on going (GTA games traditionally have very long legs sales wise). All this without in-game micro-transactions. When any mobile comes close to that let me know Peter ;)

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If Rockstar put some kind of microtransaction system in GTA V, they probably wouldn't have to make a new game for 6 years.

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Rockstar and Take Two bragging about making more money than Hollywood movies in the press releases? Totally okay. Someone pointing out that mobile games make tons more money than GTA? F*ck off.
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#37 Lumpy311
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Rockstar and Take Two bragging about making more money than Hollywood movies in the press releases? Totally okay. Someone pointing out that mobile games make tons more money than GTA? F*ck off. LA-Nighthawk

Because GTA games have a quality standard, mobile games don't.

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This guys worse than Patcher.

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#39 cain006
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Eh he was speaking at a mobile games conference. He knows it's impressive, but he was just trying to keep the people he's talking to happy.

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#40 Blabadon
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mobile games who he says are achieving between $3 million and $5 million a day.KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timeBluRayHiDef

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

People are on his nads for his countless contributions and innovations in interactive computer graphics.

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#42 TwistedShade
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You know what else isn't impressive?

Molyneux's games.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most overrated dev of all timeway2funny

I think that designation belongs to John Carmack. People are still on his nads because of Quake. C'mon, son. C'mon.

People are on his nads for his countless contributions and innovations in interactive computer graphics.

 

Exactly! Finallly someone who knows Carmack. People just don't understand how important Carmack is to PC gaming. Without him/Romero/Scott Miller consoles would have ruled the gaming market, He gave away his doom engine and thus paved the way for others like Valve to make into gaming, Its not Quake that is important its the engine ID made that made it special. IMO he is the only developer I put above Miyamoto.

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#44 ShaineTheNerd
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I used to think Molyneux was an awesome designer, but after Fable 2, he just... I don't know. Man's a damn idiot now. "3-5 million a day is impressive." Well, for the two days after it's launch it made 100 million dollars each.
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#45 jer_1
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I think the point of this story is that people need to stop buying these worthless fvcking social games he shovels out and put this morons dick in the dirt where it should be.
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#46 rjdofu
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I had no idea mobile and social games made so much, what games is he talking about that do so well?lamprey263
There're many, mostly F2P games, which are casual, addictive and nickel-and-dime. That's why I absolutely detest that model, and it's more and more popular on mobile market as we speak. Games that you can buy full package years ago, now comes with either F2P (offer IAP) or pay to play (STILL offer IAP). Many games are fvcked over because of that format.

 

Example: supercell, company behinds Clash of Clans and Hayday, make $2.4 million per day, all from IAP.

Or a good and fun casual game 'Wheres my water' turns to shit with its sequel becoming F2P.

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#47 Netret0120
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What a moron. It's not like $800 million made in one day is impressive. Or a world record.

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#48 John_Read
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it's amazing that COD do this every year :P
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#50 parkurtommo
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I think this guy speaks for all of us on this matter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4djoefCHWFQ

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