PC Gaming is losing its purpose and advantage.

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#51 Posted by Enragedhydra (1081 posts) -

My PC rig did cost more than a current gen console, but... I made that money back by getting the same multiplat games at a cheaper price, with better graphics and the definitive versions.
You guys were so excited to get four 3rd person action games, that is pretty much the same damn games just with different characters.

Excuse while I go play S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Infested Planet, Epistory, a heavily modded Skyrim, Torchlight 2, Titan Quest + Expansion, Grim Dawn, Tropico, Dawn of War 2 with mods, the original Witcher, Space Engineers and dozens of other games you don't have access to. Keep your four games lol.

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#52 Edited by warmblur (2344 posts) -

I can't stand the fact that alot of PC games this gen got downgraded for parity. I own a PS4 and a gaming PC and can't stand this BS companies purposely downgrade the PC version is just as bad as microtransactions and loot boxes every system should be used to it's strength.

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#53 Posted by NfamousLegend (347 posts) -

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

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#54 Posted by lundy86_4 (53104 posts) -

Severely flawed argument.

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#55 Posted by Enragedhydra (1081 posts) -

@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

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#56 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1475 posts) -

@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I really wish I could play your precious RDR2 with a keyboard and mouse. The stick aiming feels kind of awful. Worse than in other console shooters.

It's not really awful in Rockstar games, because they have the strongest auto aim you can imagine; it's too damn easy with the auto aim, even with sticks. It is awful without auto aim, however.

I refuse to play with Soft Lock. I might sell my copy after I'm finished and then wait for the PC version. It will also be nice to be able to hold the run button on PC without leaving the other keys. You can hold the run button in RDR2 and GTA while aiming by pressing your index finger down on Cross/A, but it's very awkward. Outdated piece of shit hardware, these controllers. Aiming with your thumb makes no sense. The devs put shooting mechanics into all the games, but the console makers and gamers cling to this inadequate trash design. Fine for games that aren't about aiming. Almost all of them are, though. It's also partly Rockstar, like you said. I swear, aiming isn't this hard in other games.

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#57 Edited by UssjTrunks (11299 posts) -

How many e-sports are played on consoles?

30 fps + 8 layers of post processing input lag results in the most casual gaming experience possible. Consoles are a joke.

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#58 Edited by UssjTrunks (11299 posts) -

@Enragedhydra said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

Next gen will likely be the last console generation. After that, we're moving into game streaming, at which point crappy hardware won't be holding PC gaming back anymore (but then I'm not sure there will even be a need for PC gaming anymore either).

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#59 Edited by BassMan (10176 posts) -

PC gamers can easily buy a console to play the few exclusives if they want. So, please explain to me how console gaming is better than PC gaming when the consoles have such shit hardware that can't even run games properly.

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#60 Edited by gamecubepad (7926 posts) -

I used to mock hermits like AnnoyedDragon about this, calling it the consolization of gaming. Not so funny to me now.

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#61 Posted by Enragedhydra (1081 posts) -

@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

Next gen will likely be the last console generation. After that, we're moving into game streaming, at which point crappy hardware won't be holding PC gaming back anymore (but then I'm not sure there will even be a need for PC gaming anymore either).

Yea only garbage internet will hold everyone back regardless of platform. At that point I'll just keep collecting physical media for the likes of NES/SNES etc

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#62 Edited by UssjTrunks (11299 posts) -

@Enragedhydra said:
@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

Next gen will likely be the last console generation. After that, we're moving into game streaming, at which point crappy hardware won't be holding PC gaming back anymore (but then I'm not sure there will even be a need for PC gaming anymore either).

Yea only garbage internet will hold everyone back regardless of platform. At that point I'll just keep collecting physical media for the likes of NES/SNES etc

I live in Canada. We're like 100 years behind the rest of the world (except maybe USA) in internet infrastructure, and I still have 1 Gbit internet (they just came out with 1.5 Gbit packages). Within 10 years, I expect everyone (or at least everyone who has enough disposable income to play video games) in the developed world to be online at 1 Gbit+ speeds.

There still might be a niche need for PC gaming in e-sports as you need 0 input lag there, but with 1 Gbit+ speeds, input lag will be imperceptible for most gaming needs. Consoles right now have copious amounts of input lag, and these games are running directly on hardware. Low FPS + post processing adds a metric shit ton of delay, and console plebs are okay with that. Streaming on a decent connection would be smoother than that.

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#63 Posted by NoodleFighter (10241 posts) -

@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

The PC gaming market is bigger than ever with a strong mid range PC demographic. With middleware such as Unreal Engine 4 and Cryengine it is a lot easier to make good looking games especially for smaller studios and indies. By the time consoles can support hardware accelerated ray tracing there should already be affordable mid range GPUs that can do the same. Even then the consoles will most likely not utilize to the level of what the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti are capable of especially since it eats a lot of performance and that makes it harder for console manufacturers to advertise things such as 4k gaming when ray tracing will make it near impossible. Speaking of which there are already over a dozen titles that will support Nvidia ray tracing so far and a good amount of them are PC only or PC first which are Assetto Corsa Competizione, MechWarrior 5: Mercemaries, Project DH, Justice, JX3 and Enlisted.

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#64 Posted by Enragedhydra (1081 posts) -

@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:
@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

Next gen will likely be the last console generation. After that, we're moving into game streaming, at which point crappy hardware won't be holding PC gaming back anymore (but then I'm not sure there will even be a need for PC gaming anymore either).

Yea only garbage internet will hold everyone back regardless of platform. At that point I'll just keep collecting physical media for the likes of NES/SNES etc

I live in Canada. We're like 100 years behind the rest of the world (except maybe USA) in internet infrastructure, and I still have 1 Gbit internet (they just came out with 1.5 Gbit packages). Within 10 years, I expect everyone (or at least everyone who has enough disposable income to play video games) in the developed world to be online at 1 Gbit+ speeds.

There still might be a niche need for PC gaming in e-sports as you need 0 input lag there, but with 1 Gbit+ speeds, input lag will be imperceptible for most gaming needs. Consoles right now have copious amounts of input lag, and these games are running directly on hardware. Low FPS + post processing adds a metric shit ton of delay, and console plebs are okay with that. Streaming on a decent connection would be smoother than that.

I get your pain, I also live in Canada lol

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#65 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (25244 posts) -

It's fine to me. The genres I like are all on PC.

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#66 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (25239 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@ezekiel43 said:

I really wish I could play your precious RDR2 with a keyboard and mouse. The stick aiming feels kind of awful. Worse than in other console shooters.

It's not really awful in Rockstar games, because they have the strongest auto aim you can imagine; it's too damn easy with the auto aim, even with sticks. It is awful without auto aim, however.

I refuse to play with Soft Lock. I might sell my copy after I'm finished and then wait for the PC version. It will also be nice to be able to hold the run button on PC without leaving the other keys. You can hold the run button in RDR2 and GTA while aiming by pressing your index finger down on Cross/A, but it's very awkward. Outdated piece of shit hardware, these controllers. Aiming with your thumb makes no sense. The devs put shooting mechanics into all the games, but the console makers and gamers cling to this inadequate trash design. Fine for games that aren't about aiming. Almost all of them are, though. It's also partly Rockstar, like you said. I swear, aiming isn't this hard in other games.

Yeah, without the soft lock, it's basically impossible. Lol I tried it in RDR1 on PS3 because it just wasn't fun with the crazy sticky aim, and I couldn't hit shit, especially since the framerate was fluctuating wildly and never stuck at a solid 30. After I got to Mexico, I did a couple missions then just quit out of sheer boredom.

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#67 Posted by Dark_sageX (3407 posts) -
@brah4ever said:

Red Dead 2, Horizon, GoW, Spiderman etc are console only.

And already you lost all credibility, those are not the best looking games, they are only the best looking games for consoles, and PC has way more to offer than just graphics but I didn't really expect anything substantial from a peasant. Why is it that ignorant console peasants think they are in a position to even talking about PC gaming? As IF I need an RTX 2080 to beat consoles in graphics, my current 980 Ti is more than 2 times powerful than an Xbox ONE X, let a lone a stinking PS4 Pro or a measly Switch.

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#68 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (25239 posts) -

@Enragedhydra said:
@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:
@UssjTrunks said:
@Enragedhydra said:

At that rate we are doomed. If a PC player really wants to he can game in 8k, it will cost piles of cash but it can be done. Imagine pushing a game like RDR2 or GOW into 8k territory.

Next gen will likely be the last console generation. After that, we're moving into game streaming, at which point crappy hardware won't be holding PC gaming back anymore (but then I'm not sure there will even be a need for PC gaming anymore either).

Yea only garbage internet will hold everyone back regardless of platform. At that point I'll just keep collecting physical media for the likes of NES/SNES etc

I live in Canada. We're like 100 years behind the rest of the world (except maybe USA) in internet infrastructure, and I still have 1 Gbit internet (they just came out with 1.5 Gbit packages). Within 10 years, I expect everyone (or at least everyone who has enough disposable income to play video games) in the developed world to be online at 1 Gbit+ speeds.

There still might be a niche need for PC gaming in e-sports as you need 0 input lag there, but with 1 Gbit+ speeds, input lag will be imperceptible for most gaming needs. Consoles right now have copious amounts of input lag, and these games are running directly on hardware. Low FPS + post processing adds a metric shit ton of delay, and console plebs are okay with that. Streaming on a decent connection would be smoother than that.

I get your pain, I also live in Canada lol

I feel double your pain, because I'm paying 75 bucks a month for 150 mb/s down in the US. :( And I don't know if they're throttling me or what; I can't stream many 4k youtube videos without major buffering. But, monopolies own the US of A, so I'm stuck with 1 cable ISP in my area or god awful DSL.

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#69 Edited by KungfuKitten (26537 posts) -

It's an option.

@DragonfireXZ95 (nice name) that's like choosing between two lesser options. If there is overly generous auto-aim it feels bad. I hope we can dial it down a little without turning it off entirely. (I'm sure we can edit some .ini stuff on PC.)

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#70 Posted by Kali-B1rd (2120 posts) -

... I can't take this guy seriously....

what a cesspool this place is now.

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#71 Posted by Yams1980 (3467 posts) -

U dont need an i9 to do pc gaming, that is beyond stupidity that hurts to even try to understand the logic behind it - no games currently use 16 threads in a cpu, and won't for years.

You can slap together a cheap used pc using a 2600k i7 (can find these cpus for less than 150 dollars), overclock it and you will be getting easily over 60-100fps in any game, i still have my 2600k and also a 4770k, neither have become a bottleneck yet and the only upgrade i've done is to a 1080gtx. And the nice thing is, using a 2nd,3rd or 4th gen intel cpu lets you use dirt cheap DDR3 memory instead of more expensive DDR4 and still hitting beyond playable framerates.

Only thing u have to dish out hard cash for is a video card, which will set you back a few hundred at least. In total you can throw together a great PC for less than 1200 dollars that would destroy a console. Even less money if you buy the video card used, which can be done pretty easily now that the bitcoin mining has crashed in prices lately.

You shouldn't make topics posting false information about what is required to get into pc gaming.

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#72 Posted by knight-k (2600 posts) -

@xantufrog said:

@brah4ever: "That a console gamer would actually take notice of."

Sick caveat. This the fundamental problem - indies don't count, RTS don't count, TBS don't count, MOBAs don't count... AAA multiplats don't count... there's a fundamental gap in interests I keep seeing here, where the rules of the game are "if you don't have console exclusives on a non-console then you have no games worth playing"

Well, with those rules, you win. PC doesn't have non-PC games. You're right.

Please tell us where are all those AAA PC exclusives?

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#73 Edited by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

BRB 30fps.

Outb4 someone says 30fps is good enough in 2018.

It is.... and tens of millions of people would agree with me.

The views of tens of million >> Your view

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#74 Edited by Litchie (23863 posts) -

LOL. Such a dumb thread in so many ways. It's almost impressive.

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#75 Posted by IvanGrozny (892 posts) -

Last time i checked Horizon was on PC too, RDR2 is coming in some 6-12 months. What really lost its purpose is XboxOne.

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#77 Posted by SecretPolice (35246 posts) -

lol

:P

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#78 Posted by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -

PC gaming in a nutshell.....

1. More fragmented then the Android ecosystem.

2. Over priced hardware.

3. No games to truly take advantage of said hardware.

4. No real AAAE's these days.

5. Largely lives on Indies and multiplats.

6. Always being held back by consoles.

7. Never first priority for 99% of developers.

8. Dreadful API's and overhead compared to console.

9. Has to wait up to months in some cases for mutiplat games.

10. The developers that used to truly push the platform are all but a memory.

I could go on........

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#79 Posted by BassMan (10176 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:

PC gaming in a nutshell.....

1. More fragmented then the Android ecosystem.

2. Over priced hardware.

3. No games to truly take advantage of said hardware.

4. No real AAAE's these days.

5. Largely lives on Indies and multiplats.

6. Always being held back by consoles.

7. Never first priority for 99% of developers.

8. Dreadful API's and overhead compared to console.

9. Has to wait up to months in some cases for mutiplat games.

10. The developers that used to truly push the platform are all but a memory.

I could go on........

All that drivel aside, we are still playing games the best way possible on PC. If you care about quality, there is no other option. If PC gamers still want to play some of the console exclusives, they can purchase them as secondary platforms. There is no winning with console. They are a fail by default based on their shit hardware specs.

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#80 Posted by TryIt (13157 posts) -

@brah4ever said:

brb 2080 Ti which costs over a grand

brb i9 - 8 core

brb DDR5 RAM

brb all this powerful PC hardware and yet the best looking games of today such as Red Dead 2, Horizon, GoW, Spiderman etc are console only.

Unless you like playing late console ports or indies, the effort required to PC game is not really worth it anymore.

Gone are the days of exclusives such as F.E.A.R, Crysis, World in Conflict, etc as in games that push our PCs and demonstrate PC hardware superiority. Now its just slightly better looking versions of console games.

something like 95% of the games I am playing, have played over the past 4 years, want to play in the near future do not exist on consoles.

zero...literally zero of the console exclusives I have any interest in playing

so say what about 'exclusives'?

in the end, the modern era of PC gaming is about Steam and the games that they have that consoles do not have. There are some exceptions like Elite, but no way in friggin hell am I playing Elite Dangerous with a controller. HOTAS for me

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#81 Edited by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@BassMan said:
@scatteh316 said:

PC gaming in a nutshell.....

1. More fragmented then the Android ecosystem.

2. Over priced hardware.

3. No games to truly take advantage of said hardware.

4. No real AAAE's these days.

5. Largely lives on Indies and multiplats.

6. Always being held back by consoles.

7. Never first priority for 99% of developers.

8. Dreadful API's and overhead compared to console.

9. Has to wait up to months in some cases for mutiplat games.

10. The developers that used to truly push the platform are all but a memory.

I could go on........

All that drivel aside, we are still playing games the best way possible on PC. If you care about quality, there is no other option. If PC gamers still want to play some of the console exclusives, they can purchase them as secondary platforms. There is no winning with console. They are a fail by default based on their shit hardware specs.

Instead of calling it 'drivel' why you don't you try and counter it with logical counter arguments?

If you care about quality there's no other option? Does PC offer better quality in the games I like? Nope..... so there goes your whole argument.

PC's are fail by default because they don't offer to graphics to match their raw specs.....

You can build a PC in 2018 that has more raw power then what Playstation 5 will have..... but yet it won't offer Playstation 5 level graphics... Instant fail!

PC gaming is like playing remastered versions of current gen games that the next round of console will get but doing it a few years earlier.

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#82 Posted by TryIt (13157 posts) -

@NoodleFighter

does any of those games you listed have any building mechanics in them at all. Anything like Rust? like Space Engineers? like Ark like Stranded Deep? like Green Hell? anything at all?

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#83 Posted by BassMan (10176 posts) -

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

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#84 Posted by Pedro (34423 posts) -

The convergence of hardware is inevitable. It would be unwise to think otherwise. All of these babbling about hardware with marginal benefits to the average consumer is growing more marginal with each hardware iteration. This generation of consoles has reduced the gap significantly. The next iteration of consoles would make it practically non existent. In fact the whole hardware war would be pretty much meaningless within the next 8 years. So fanboys, enjoy it while it last. :)

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#85 Edited by mazuiface (897 posts) -

PC offers online communities that don't die off in an instant because of console generations among many other things. How many of you still fire up your PS3 or Xbox 360 to play some CS:GO? On PC it's still very alive.

This thread is dumb - from the immediate mention of the RTX line, I knew it would be that stupid "you need to spend 1 grand to get a gpu hurr hurr" meme.

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#86 Edited by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@BassMan said:

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

That's funny, myself and millions upon millions of others get on with them just fine...... so there goes your whole argument.... unless you're now going to say you know what I and millions of others like better then we do?

How does it feel having a PC that could push out next generation graphics but instead has to push out whatever level PS4 dictates to it?

That must suck...... Nice to see you can't counter my 'drivel' either.... because you know what I said is all true...

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#87 Posted by clone01 (27460 posts) -

@brah4ever said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

BRB 30fps.

Outb4 someone says 30fps is good enough in 2018.

brb PC games barely have dedicated servers or mod support nowadays.

30 FPS also works better on a pad than a keyboard + mouse.

You realize you can play PC games with a pad, correct?

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#88 Edited by BassMan (10176 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:
@BassMan said:

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

That's funny, myself and millions upon millions of others get on with them just fine...... so there goes your whole argument.

How does it feel having a PC that could push out next generation graphics but instead has to push out whatever level PS4 dictates to it?

That must suck...... Nice to see you can't counter my 'drivel' either.... because you know what I said is all true...

So, you are admitting that you and the millions don't care about quality. LOL

It feels amazing having a good PC actually. I can't complain when I am playing games at 3440x1440/120hz G-Sync and 4K/60fps max settings. :)

I am not going to waste my time countering your bullshit because PC is the greatest and we all know this. You can try to play devil's advocate all you want, but at the end of the day consoles will never have bragging rights other than a few exclusives, which PC gamers can easily buy a console for if they want.

I own all the platforms and I only play exclusives on consoles for a reason... because PC is the greatest and the consoles are a joke.

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#89 Edited by mazuiface (897 posts) -

@scatteh316: CS:GO also launched on Xbox360 and PS3. Do people still fire up those consoles to play CS now?

PC keeps communities alive.

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#90 Edited by naz99 (2941 posts) -

@nfamouslegend said:

@warmblur: the money is just not there in PC gaming for developers to go out of there way to maximize it. Just like ray tracing, it will only take off once consoles can support it.

True it was awful way back when, PC was that unpopular online gaming didn't take off a whole DECADE before consoles and 3D cards never went anywhere like turn into a multi billion dollar market ,and digital distribution oof games just never picked up the money just is not there, just flash in the pans.

It's clearly obvious that the 30+ billion dollar PC hardware gaming Market and a similar sized software market just isn't popular, why let pesky things like reality get in the way of that assumption right?

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#91 Posted by Pedro (34423 posts) -

@BassMan said:
@scatteh316 said:
@BassMan said:

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

That's funny, myself and millions upon millions of others get on with them just fine...... so there goes your whole argument.

How does it feel having a PC that could push out next generation graphics but instead has to push out whatever level PS4 dictates to it?

That must suck...... Nice to see you can't counter my 'drivel' either.... because you know what I said is all true...

So, you are admitting that you and the millions don't care about quality. LOL

It feels amazing having a good PC actually. I can't complain when I am playing games at 3440x1440/120hz G-Sync and 4K/60fps max settings. :)

I am not going to waste my time countering your bullshit because PC is the greatest and we all know this. You can try to play devil's advocate all you want, but at the end of the day consoles will never have bragging rights other than a few exclusives, which PC gamers can easily buy a console for if they want.

I own all the platforms and I only play exclusives on consoles for a reason... because PC is the greatest and the consoles are a joke.

You are overstating the importance of what YOU consider quality. It must be rough pretending to care so much. At least you are dedicated to the lie. :)

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#92 Posted by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@BassMan said:
@scatteh316 said:
@BassMan said:

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

That's funny, myself and millions upon millions of others get on with them just fine...... so there goes your whole argument.

How does it feel having a PC that could push out next generation graphics but instead has to push out whatever level PS4 dictates to it?

That must suck...... Nice to see you can't counter my 'drivel' either.... because you know what I said is all true...

So, you are admitting that you and the millions don't care about quality. LOL

It feels amazing having a good PC actually. I can't complain when I am playing games at 3440x1440/120hz G-Sync and 4K/60fps max settings. :)

I am not going to waste my time countering your bullshit because PC is the greatest and we all know this. You can try to play devil's advocate all you want, but at the end of the day consoles will never have bragging rights other than a few exclusives, which PC gamers can easily buy a console for if they want.

I own all the platforms and I only play exclusives on consoles for a reason... because PC is the greatest and the consoles are a joke.

The saltiness in your reply says other wise...

1. You won't waste time countering my drivel because you can't and you're merely using time as an excuse to hide that fact.

2. Quality is more then just frame rate, then again when you don't have your own AAAE's frame rate is all you have.

3. You're not playing 4k/60 in every game, you're yet another bull shitting Hermit claiming numbers they simply don't get across the board.

4. PC is not the greatest by a long shot.

5. Consoles do a have a bragging right, they dictate what PC can do and that ......pisses Hermits right off ;)

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#93 Edited by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@mazuiface said:

@scatteh316: CS:GO also launched on Xbox360 and PS3. Do people still fire up those consoles to play CS now?

PC keeps communities alive.

And who are you?

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#94 Edited by naz99 (2941 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:

5. Consoles do a have a bragging right, they dictate what PC can do and that ......pisses Hermits right off ;)

Examples?

"I said it so it's true"

Isn't an argument.

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#95 Posted by dxmcat (2609 posts) -

McDonalds food is exclusive and enjoyed by millions.

Must be the best.

No one dictates what I make in my kitchen.

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#96 Posted by scatteh316 (10179 posts) -
@naz99 said:
@scatteh316 said:
@BassMan said:
@scatteh316 said:
@BassMan said:

@scatteh316: PC offers better quality for all games unless they are console exclusive. The worst part about the console exclusives, is you buy a console for them and you still can't enjoy them properly because most of them run at 30fps. Terrible. Like I said, consoles are a fail all around.

That's funny, myself and millions upon millions of others get on with them just fine...... so there goes your whole argument.

How does it feel having a PC that could push out next generation graphics but instead has to push out whatever level PS4 dictates to it?

That must suck...... Nice to see you can't counter my 'drivel' either.... because you know what I said is all true...

So, you are admitting that you and the millions don't care about quality. LOL

It feels amazing having a good PC actually. I can't complain when I am playing games at 3440x1440/120hz G-Sync and 4K/60fps max settings. :)

I am not going to waste my time countering your bullshit because PC is the greatest and we all know this. You can try to play devil's advocate all you want, but at the end of the day consoles will never have bragging rights other than a few exclusives, which PC gamers can easily buy a console for if they want.

I own all the platforms and I only play exclusives on consoles for a reason... because PC is the greatest and the consoles are a joke.

5. Consoles do a have a bragging right, they dictate what PC can do and that ......pisses Hermits right off ;)

Examples?

"I said it so it's true"

Isn't an argument.

If I have to give you an example as to why consoles dictate what PC's can do you're an idiot.

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#97 Edited by mazuiface (897 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:
@mazuiface said:

@scatteh316: CS:GO also launched on Xbox360 and PS3. Do people still fire up those consoles to play CS now?

PC keeps communities alive.

And who are you?

Very telling response, and a dumb question to ask on a video game forum. This thread is bringing out all sorts of tropes that people have been using since the 2000s.

There's a good reason basically every video game on consoles eventually makes its way to PC in some form or another.

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#98 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (6339 posts) -

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

BRB 30fps.

Outb4 someone says 30fps is good enough in 2018.

It is.... and tens of millions of people would agree with me.

The views of tens of million >> Your view

Sorry sweet heart you play at 30FPS not because its good its because you have no choice.

The nail in the coffin is the fact that games are offering a 60FPS mode now on consoles. So your not fooling anyone.

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#99 Edited by naz99 (2941 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:
@naz99 said:
@scatteh316 said:

5. Consoles do a have a bragging right, they dictate what PC can do and that ......pisses Hermits right off ;)

Examples?

"I said it so it's true"

Isn't an argument.

If I have to give you an example as to why consoles dictate what PC's can do you're an idiot.

Ahahaha, low rent deflection and name calling , thanks, as expected.

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#100 Posted by BassMan (10176 posts) -

@Pedro: No lies. The quality is objectively better on PC and PC gamers have had higher standards for years.

@scatteh316: Come talk to me when consoles can deliver quality like PC. Then we can actually have a worthwhile discussion.