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You guys ever have any friends that don't like to go to the club because they say "dancing is stupid"?
Well, it's not thatthey think dancing is stupid, it's just that THEYDON'T KNOW HOW TO DANCE!

People don't like what they dont know, but they ARE people, so they will NEVER admit to this, they gotta make up a reason to justify their lack of knowledge.

Anyways, I laugh whenever I see another consolite post "pc gaming sucks because it's hard", because what they are really saying is "I SUCK at pc gaming so therefore, it sucks"

and for the record, dancing is stupid yo.

I used to like nothing more than dropping a couple of disco biscuits and dancing my a*se off to a bit of banging house back in the day! :P

And pc gaming ftw!

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

BumFluff122

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Biowes??

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

Vandalvideo

Remind me again what console games require you to put the CD into the tray, go through a number of steps in setting up your video card, processing power and graphical abilities before allowing you to play the actual game, then having to install driver updates or other updates to get it to run? None that I can remember.

Good thing I'm a dance commander.Vandalvideo

How is The Witcher? I was thinking about getting it when I build my new PC soon.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

BumFluff122

Remind me again what console games require you to put the CD into the tray, go through a number of steps in setting up your video card, processing power and graphical abilities before allowing you to play the actual game, then having to install driver updates or other updates to get it to run? None that I can remember.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

BumFluff122

Remind me again what console games require you to put the CD into the tray, go through a number of steps in setting up your video card, processing power and graphical abilities before allowing you to play the actual game, then having to install driver updates or other updates to get it to run? None that I can remember.

Or you could hit OK through all of them and cross your fingers.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

PC gaming is quite a lot harder than console gaming. For the PC you have to actually 'install' a game while with a console all you do is put the disc in. There are also quite a lot of driver, etc... problems you may come across during the installation. For a person who has no knowledge of PC gaming all this data makes them feel a little overwhelmed.

Have you ever been into a Troubleshooting section in a specific games website forum? You're probably going to say something like, "No I don't need to because I am the supreme commander of gaming. 101!!! 1337!%@!" There are quite a few posts in almost every one that states something similar to "I can't get *insert game here* to install on my computer!!!" Basically what you are doing is insulting peoples knowledge because they are inexperienced with PC gaming. And yes, PC gaming is quite a lot harder, given the circumstances, than console gaming. Why can't people accept this? It's fact.

BumFluff122

Remind me again what console games require you to put the CD into the tray, go through a number of steps in setting up your video card, processing power and graphical abilities before allowing you to play the actual game, then having to install driver updates or other updates to get it to run? None that I can remember.

Yeah, this is totally common on the PC. :roll: I honestly cannot remember the last game I played where I had to 'set up my processing power', since you do that through the bios. That leads me to believe your just spouting junk to make it sound harder than it is.

Honestly, how hard is it to keep clicking "Next" and picking where you want the folder installed? I'm starting to marvel some of these anti-PC fanboys are able to turn their computers on at all.

And maybe you'd have a point on the installation process if it didn't give a huge advantage to PC games over console games. For a few minutes of installing, you basically have a platform which is capable of a lot more as it doesn't need to stream from the disk. That's one of the reasons Crysis can't work in it's current form on consoles.

I agree, dancing is stupid.JocktheMotie

I second this.

So address the other perfectly valid arguments against PC gaming.

Oh, and it's not that PC gaming is hard - it's that it's more work. Yes, I know how to assemble a PC. Yes, I can install an operating system. Yes, I can locate and install drivers. Yes, I can install software. People who can do these things really aren't special - they're a dime a dozen. But I spend 8 hours a day programming, and I don't want to come home to do any more work to play my games. It's the same reason I bought a Mac - I can do all those things. I choose not to, knowing full well what the tradeoffs are.

PC gaming was great when I was in college and had an endless supply of time to mess with my PC. Now, I don't. I want to get a beer, crash on the couch, and put in a few rounds of Halo. You can call me lazy, sure, but you certainly can't call me uneducated on the topic of computers.

So address the other perfectly valid arguments against PC gaming.

Oh, and it's not that PC gaming is hard - it's that it's more work. Yes, I know how to assemble a PC. Yes, I can install an operating system. Yes, I can locate and install drivers. Yes, I can install software. But I spend 8 hours a day programming, and I don't want to come home to do any more work to play my games.

PC gaming was great when I was in college and had an endless supply of time to mess with my PC. Now, I don't. I want to get a beer, crash on the couch, and put in a few rounds of Halo. You can call me lazy, sure, but you certainly can't call me uneducated on the topic of computers.

lowe0

Yeah, this is totally common on the PC. :roll: I honestly cannot remember the last game I played where I had to 'set up my processing power', since you do that through the bios. That leads me to believe your just spouting junk to make it sound harder than it is.

Honestly, how hard is it to keep clicking "Next" and picking where you want the folder installed? I'm starting to marvel some of these anti-PC fanboys are able to turn their computers on at all.

And maybe you'd have a point on the installation process if it didn't give a huge advantage to PC games over console games. For a few minutes of installing, you basically have a platform which is capable of a lot more as it doesn't need to stream from the disk. That's one of the reasons Crysis can't work in it's current form on consoles.

Danm_999

And, to repeat what I stated before, given the circumstances (ie not the right drivers, not the right graphics card, etc...) a PC game is often quite a lot harder to install than merely popping the disk in and clicking next a couple times. As stated before, just go into a gaming website for a specific game and look at their troubleshooting forum. Chances are you will see quite a lot more that are having trouble installing and running their games on a PC.

And what is it with 1337 people, such as yourself, speaking down to 'consolite fanboys' as if to say 'nah nah nah I'm better than you!' The point of my post was that it is often quite a lot harder to get a PC game actually running on your computer than a console game running on a console. That is a fact. And here you are arguing about it?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Yeah, this is totally common on the PC. :roll: I honestly cannot remember the last game I played where I had to 'set up my processing power', since you do that through the bios. That leads me to believe your just spouting junk to make it sound harder than it is.

Honestly, how hard is it to keep clicking "Next" and picking where you want the folder installed? I'm starting to marvel some of these anti-PC fanboys are able to turn their computers on at all.

And maybe you'd have a point on the installation process if it didn't give a huge advantage to PC games over console games. For a few minutes of installing, you basically have a platform which is capable of a lot more as it doesn't need to stream from the disk. That's one of the reasons Crysis can't work in it's current form on consoles.

BumFluff122

And, to repeat what I stated before, given the circumstances (ie not the right drivers, not the right graphics card, etc...) a PC game is often quite a lot harder to install than merely popping the disk in and clicking next a couple times. As stated before, just go into a gaming website for a specific game and look at their troubleshooting forum. Chances are you will see quite a lot more that are having trouble installing and running their games on a PC.

And what is it with 1337 people, such as yourself, speaking down to 'consolite fanboys' as if to say 'nah nah nah I'm better than you!' The point of my post was that it is often quite a lot harder to get a PC game actually running on your computer than a console game running on a console. That is a fact. And here you are arguing about it?

You seem to close minded to listen to much of anything else anyone has to say. If you actually read my post I said 'given the circumstances'. I was merely giving examples. I am perfectly aware of the advantage of installing a game on the hardrive has over playing the game over a disk.BumFluff122

So if I gave the example of a 360 going RROD as to why console gaming was worthless, our examples would be parallel.

You can't give the worst case scenario for something and then act like it's the norm.

And, to repeat what I stated before, given the circumstances (ie not the right drivers, not the right graphics card, etc...) a PC game is often quite a lot harder to install than merely popping the disk in and clicking next a couple times.BumFluff122

Again, if you want to manufacture yourself fictional worst case scenarios as a justification for PC gaming being a whole lot harder, your whole point is flawed. To not have the right graphics card means the one you have is too old, something you should have reasearched before buying the game! Not having the right driver is something that can literally be fixed with a 10 second download and a restart. Most games even come with the drivers they need during installation these days!

And the reason I discussed the advantage of installing on a hard drive is because in the face of these minor disadvantages, the whole point that "pc gaming blowes" by the TC has no substance.

As stated before, just go into a gaming website for a specific game and look at their troubleshooting forum. Chances are you will see quite a lot more that are having trouble installing and running their games on a PC.BumFluff122

Go to a hospital and you'll see a lot of sick people. What's your point? Your acting as if this sort of problem is the majority, but do you actually expect people with no problems posting on those sorts of forums?

And what is it with 1337 people, such as yourself, speaking down to 'consolite fanboys' as if to say 'nah nah nah I'm better than you!' The point of my post was that it is often quite a lot harder to get a PC game actually running on your computer than a console game running on a console. That is a fact. And here you are arguing about it?

BumFluff122

No, I'm arguing that it is, in your own words "quite a lot harder". It isn't. It's harder, but I'd debate the hyperbole you used.

Except that now-a-days drivers mostly come pre-packaged with all the new games, so its realy an isue of the past. In current time, it IS as easy as putting the disc in and pushing next.Vandalvideo

Let me post one link to a troubleshooting webpage dealing with a game. And quite a few of the people who play this one game are also into console gaming.

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/start.php?openItemID=item.21,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23

as you can see, 217 of those threads have been active in the past 3 days. If anyone can link me to a technical troubleshooting for a console game that has had as many posts in it as this one in the same amount of time I'll eat my words.

Dancing IS stupid.

PC gaming isn't though.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that now-a-days drivers mostly come pre-packaged with all the new games, so its realy an isue of the past. In current time, it IS as easy as putting the disc in and pushing next.BumFluff122

Let me post one link to a troubleshooting webpage dealing with a game. And quite a few of the people who play this one game are also into console gaming.

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/start.php?openItemID=item.21,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23

as you can see, 217 of those threads have been active in the past 3 days. If anyone can link me to a technical troubleshooting for a console game that has had as many posts in it as this one in the same amount of time I'll eat my words.

For this test to be fair, the number of PC gamers would have to equal the number of console gamers.

But they don't, PC gaming is an estimated 200 million global userbase, while consoles can only reach that number if the userbases of the PS2, PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii and GameCube are combined (and assuming all of those bought only one console and didn't buy another).

It's also true that there are usually 3 types of consoles, and thus the market will divide it's technical support help. Asking for what your asking isn't just inconsistent with reality, it's pointless.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that now-a-days drivers mostly come pre-packaged with all the new games, so its realy an isue of the past. In current time, it IS as easy as putting the disc in and pushing next.BumFluff122

Let me post one link to a troubleshooting webpage dealing with a game. And quite a few of the people who play this one game are also into console gaming.

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/start.php?openItemID=item.21,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23

as you can see, 217 of those threads have been active in the past 3 days. If anyone can link me to a technical troubleshooting for a console game that has had as many posts in it as this one in the same amount of time I'll eat my words.

No, I'm arguing that it is, in your own words "quite a lot harder". It isn't. It's harder, but I'd debate the hyperbole you used.Danm_999

You guys ever have any friends that don't like to go to the club because they say "dancing is stupid"?
Well, it's not thatthey think dancing is stupid, it's just that THEYDON'T KNOW HOW TO DANCE!

People don't like what they dont know, but they ARE people, so they will NEVER admit to this, they gotta make up a reason to justify their lack of knowledge.

Anyways, I laugh whenever I see another consolite post "pc gaming sucks because it's hard", because what they are really saying is "I SUCK at pc gaming so therefore, it sucks"

and for the record, dancing is stupid yo.

out0v0rder

LINK!!!

For this test to be fair, the number of PC gamers would have to equal the number of console gamers.

But they don't, PC gaming is an estimated 200 million global userbase, while consoles can only reach that number if the userbases of the PS2, PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii and GameCube are combined (and assuming all of those bought only one console and didn't buy another).

It's also true that there are usually 3 types of consoles, and thus the market will divide it's technical support help. Asking for what your asking isn't just inconsistent with reality, it's pointless.

Danm_999

dancing is awesome.... its the key to getting laid at a party

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]No, I'm arguing that it is, in your own words "quite a lot harder". It isn't. It's harder, but I'd debate the hyperbole you used.BumFluff122

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

For this test to be fair, the number of PC gamers would have to equal the number of console gamers.

But they don't, PC gaming is an estimated 200 million global userbase, while consoles can only reach that number if the userbases of the PS2, PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii and GameCube are combined (and assuming all of those bought only one console and didn't buy another).

It's also true that there are usually 3 types of consoles, and thus the market will divide it's technical support help. Asking for what your asking isn't just inconsistent with reality, it's pointless.

BumFluff122

I'm not. If the 360 had a 100% failure rate, and PC systems had a 10%, it would still seem like the PC was a more unstable system.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]No, I'm arguing that it is, in your own words "quite a lot harder". It isn't. It's harder, but I'd debate the hyperbole you used.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

For this test to be fair, the number of PC gamers would have to equal the number of console gamers.

But they don't, PC gaming is an estimated 200 million global userbase, while consoles can only reach that number if the userbases of the PS2, PS3, Xbox, 360, Wii and GameCube are combined (and assuming all of those bought only one console and didn't buy another).

It's also true that there are usually 3 types of consoles, and thus the market will divide it's technical support help. Asking for what your asking isn't just inconsistent with reality, it's pointless.

Danm_999

I'm not. If the 360 had a 100% failure rate, and PC systems had a 10%, it would still seem like the PC was a more unstable system.

Awesome, awesome stuff. If it wasn't quite a lot easier nowadays I would be very surprised. I'm not really one ot go out and spend 1000's of dollars on a new PC with the best video card, mother board, memory, etc... And before anyone starst saying "You only need so and so money to build a gaming PC!" I have never built a PC before as I'm fairly certain the majority of other gamers haven't eiher. And to get the latest and greatest model the graphics card alone would cost over $800, the mother board would be another $200 and the processor would be quite a bit more as well as the sound card , hard drive and everythign else you need to build it. I have actually looked into buying a gaming PC before and I was considering building my own then I changed jobs and am quite a lot busier now than I was then.BumFluff122

i think pc gameing sucks.. i dont suck at game, oh no. i;m the other way around but the reason i think it sucks is to make the game look good and play good you need a computer over a grand, plus you got to keep updating and installing. loading games... i think i just dont like computers all together, i still use one tho. but thats just me. BLaiamshivy

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Awesome, awesome stuff. If it wasn't quite a lot easier nowadays I would be very surprised. I'm not really one ot go out and spend 1000's of dollars on a new PC with the best video card, mother board, memory, etc... And before anyone starst saying "You only need so and so money to build a gaming PC!" I have never built a PC before as I'm fairly certain the majority of other gamers haven't eiher. And to get the latest and greatest model the graphics card alone would cost over $800, the mother board would be another $200 and the processor would be quite a bit more as well as the sound card , hard drive and everythign else you need to build it. I have actually looked into buying a gaming PC before and I was considering building my own then I changed jobs and am quite a lot busier now than I was then.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Awesome, awesome stuff. If it wasn't quite a lot easier nowadays I would be very surprised. I'm not really one ot go out and spend 1000's of dollars on a new PC with the best video card, mother board, memory, etc... And before anyone starst saying "You only need so and so money to build a gaming PC!" I have never built a PC before as I'm fairly certain the majority of other gamers haven't eiher. And to get the latest and greatest model the graphics card alone would cost over $800, the mother board would be another $200 and the processor would be quite a bit more as well as the sound card , hard drive and everythign else you need to build it. I have actually looked into buying a gaming PC before and I was considering building my own then I changed jobs and am quite a lot busier now than I was then.BumFluff122

This is the problem with every single person who complains about the PC being so expensive, they buy the hardcore thing they can find and then say OMG ITS SO EXPENSIVE. Oh please, you can build a rig that easily whoops consoles for 700-800 dollarsnowadays.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]This is the problem with every single person who complains about the PC being so expensive, they buy the hardcore thing they can find and then say OMG ITS SO EXPENSIVE. Oh please, you can build a rig that easily whoops consoles for 700-800 dollarsnowadays.BumFluff122

You could easily drag it out for the entire duration of the generation at this point, you just wouldn't be able to play games at max settings, but as Crysis demonstations, you don't NEED max settings to whoop consoles. And like I said, Best Buy assembles PCs. Don't think you're the first person I've disproven with this exact same arguement, I know the direction tis going, might as well stop now while you're ahead.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You could easily drag it out for the entire duration of the generation at this point, you just wouldn't be able to play games at max settings, but as Crysis demonstations, you don't NEED max settings to whoop consoles. And like I said, Best Buy assembles PCs. Don't think you're the first person I've disproven with this exact same arguement, I know the direction tis going, might as well stop now while you're ahead.BumFluff122

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You could easily drag it out for the entire duration of the generation at this point, you just wouldn't be able to play games at max settings, but as Crysis demonstations, you don't NEED max settings to whoop consoles. And like I said, Best Buy assembles PCs. Don't think you're the first person I've disproven with this exact same arguement, I know the direction tis going, might as well stop now while you're ahead.Vandalvideo

And lets not forget that you aren't buying just a gaming machince, you get something that is useful in your everyday life outside of gaming. You can play music stor files, watch movies, surf the web, instant message, manage your finances, buy stuff, create things, the list goes on. So really it isn't that expensicve once you think about all the other practical features that you would get outside of the PC gaming environment.