PC Gamer magazine port begs for Nintendo on PC... again.

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#1  Edited By nintendoboy16
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True exclusives are a dying breed. Even notorious crossplay-hater and exclusive-haver Sony has capitulated, letting us play the likes of Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding and Days Gone on PC. Now platform owners talk about "console exclusives", because chances are the game will end up appearing in PC stores. Despite this, there's been no movement from Nintendo, which continues to despise sharing.

Nintendo being Nintendo, it's not really that surprising. It always likes to be difficult and has made a tradition out of doing its own thing. You can always tell when you're looking at a Nintendo game because its philosophy and design sensibilities are always clear as day, and rarely ape what the competition is doing. At every point, whether it's game prices or online multiplayer, Mario Corp does whatever it wants. But that would also give it an advantage if it started making PC ports.

One of the big risks for a platform owner considering opening things up is that it could devalue the console it depends on. The Switch has been a huge success, and we can expect another bump when Nintendo eventually launched the new version. It doesn't want PC ports to cannibalise all those potential Switch numbers.

Nintendo has said as much. "We are aware that many consumers play PC games," former Nintendo president Tatsumi Kimishima told shareholders in a 2017 Q&A. "However, we believe that the integrated hardware-software business is the best way for us to provide the surprises and new gameplay experiences that we want to achieve."

Kimishima went on to suggest that the PC wasn't even that lucrative, mostly based on what he saw at E3 that year. "In the past I have seen a number of exhibition booths at E3 where dozens of PCs lined the hall for consumers to try out network experiences. However, at E3 this year, there were not many gaming PC exhibits or VR exhibits, which captured significant attention last year."

E3 used to be a terrible place to gauge the popularity of PC games, and we now know he was way off base anyway. This year, we hardly saw a single game that wasn't coming out on PC, along with hundreds that will be PC exclusives. The actual numbers don't back up Kimishima's assessment either. GDC surveys consistently place PC at the top, as devs' platform of choice, while more than half of gamers play on PC.

Besides, Nintendo has been putting crappier versions of its big series on mobile for years, so it's not like it's entirely adverse to expanding what platforms it takes advantage of. Notably, however, these games don't compete with games on Switch, as they're designed specifically for mobile. Thanks to the accepted shady business practices, it's also a lot easier for a big publisher like Nintendo to make a fast buck when tossing something onto a phone.

Ultimately, though, I don't think PC ports would be the threat Nintendo expects. Microsoft and Sony have just been making increasingly large PCs for years, to the point that, now, it almost seems silly to own a powerful PC and a PS5 or Xbox Series X. This is especially true of the Xbox, where there's almost complete parity with PC. We don't have exact figures from Microsoft, but apparently the Xbox Series X and S marked the biggest Xbox launch ever. And it doesn't even have any system-sellers.

If Microsoft and Sony don't see it as a threat, Nintendo certainly shouldn't. Its consoles don't have anything that really compares. The Switch isn't just another PC, and like every Nintendo console before it—with the exception of the WiiU—it's loved for more than just the games available on it. Even a PC diehard like myself has to admit that there's nothing like the joy that comes from playing something on that lovely handheld. I'm still waiting for a reason to buy one of the latest generation of consoles, but I always know I'll buy whatever Nintendo is making.

Rather than cannibalising players, I suspect PC ports would only increase Nintendo's audience, and then help Switch sales. There are already several games that I've played on PC first, before buying the Switch version. Games like Stardew Valley, Into the Breach and Slay the Spire just feel better on a handheld, and the older I get, the more I enjoy playing games in my bed between leisurely naps.

Nintendo, you've got nothing to worry about. People just want to play your games. Go on and throw them a bone.

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Wow... even when Nintendo is successful, people still ask Nintendo to go third party and pull a Sega. I have my views on why that should never happen, and not because of some "selfish" (irony) reason, more of a "it's complicated" and "audience isn't there" reason...

More I think about it, I've never seen a PlayStation or XBOX centric publication ask for this. PC Gamer might as well give up in asking.

Further ironic, Nintendo fans get slack for port begging, but when everyone else does it, especially towards Nintendo's own games, "listen to them".

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PC Beggar race for a reason. Luckily a certain "simulation" is getting a lot of news recently about its ability to run Nintendo titles getting far, far better.

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Cool

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Xbox does what Nintendont. lol :P

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Lol, they’re already playable on emulators and are far better than the Switch versions there.

PC is all three consoles combined at this point.

Stay mad, peasants.

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PC gamer Mags has been doing that for years just to get clicks for revenue, so this is nothing new.

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Well you can already play games at 4k.

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Those 2017 news, soo relevant in 2021….🙄🙄

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The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

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@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

I'm not ready to live in a Dystopia world😥

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Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

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#12 Pedro
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@davillain- said:

I'm not ready to live in a Dystopia world😥

What are talking about?

@gym_lion said:

Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

Too late.

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@Pedro: Sorry, but I can't help but chuckle when you say things like this. 🤭

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@gym_lion said:

Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

They hate PC pirates almost as much as they hate their fanbase.

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#15  Edited By pyro1245
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Must not be aware that Nintendo fans bring most of the games to PC themselves.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@gym_lion said:

Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

They hate PC pirates almost as much as they hate their fanbase.

I believe Melee fans draw the most ire from Nintendo.

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@gym_lion said:

Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

All in all Nintendo, since they develop their own games and put a lot of resources into, unlike Valve or MS for example, don't want to devaluate the Nintendo brand and everything associated with down to trash level. What would inevatibly happen. BigN is comparetively small and specialized, they cant be careless and simply shut down studio after studio when they dont make enough profit and leech off the work and creativity of others while giving a s*it about product value and market equilibrium, like Valve or MS for example. Remaining in their own little space in order to stay in full control.

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#18 Fedor
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@palasta said:
@gym_lion said:

Nintendo is to shit scared of piracy to put their games on the PC.

All in all Nintendo, since they develop their own games and put a lot of resources into, unlike Valve or MS for example, don't want to devaluate the Nintendo brand and everything associated with down to trash level. What would inevatibly happen. BigN is comparetively small and specialized, they cant be careless and simply shut down studio after studio when they dont make enough profit and leech off the work and creativity of others while giving a s*it about product value and market equilibrium, like Valve or MS for example. Remaining in their own little space in order to stay in full control.

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Luckily for them, the fans do their own "porting."

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@Juub1990 said:

Lol, they’re already playable on emulators and are far better than the Switch versions there.

PC is all three consoles combined at this point.

Stay mad, peasants.

The emulators are another big reason for Nintendo to release on pc imo. Most people won’t pirate if there’s a reasonable alternative, because of the hassle (it’s pretty easy, but still)

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#21  Edited By deactivated-620299e29a26a
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Well yeah, why would Nintendo want to port to PC? If they're games where on PC they couldn't lock quality of life gameplay features behind $30 dollar toy figures (update, that toy is now around $60) and may be pressed to do 50% off sales for games on PC. Nintendo couldn't charge for their sub par online, and *gasp* think of the Mods! That's unacceptable for Nintendo, too much freedom for the consumer. You can't be the Kim Jong-Un of gaming and dictate content your base gets with an iron fist if you leave your own country.

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*gasp* think of the Mods!

If the fans can actually mod an emulated game, imagine if it's a native port.

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Hell, you can port the mods into the Wii-U lol

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This is really not a good look for us PC gamers. We have the money and can buy a Switch. There's no reason to port beg.

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@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

Nintendo is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! I TELL YA!

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@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

I totally agree. While I own all the consoles and enjoy them, I am not blind to seeing how it's trending. I just enjoy playing great games. I think I will only be saddened the day I wouldn't be able to play them on my big screen. Hopefully that will always be a thing. My Switch is always docked, as I am not a portable gamer.

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#26  Edited By Telekill
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The article is written like a petulant child. The entitlement is oozing from the words. I'm thinking it would be funny to see Nintendo and then Sony give the PC user base the middle finger given how they act and either outright deny or cancel PC ports altogether.

It's obvious people today don't appreciate anything but simply demand and expect what was it... oh yeah... "capitulation". I'm betting the lack of appreciation will change soon though given what's going on in the world. We're on the verge of a third World War and when that happens, we'll all see nothing new created and only destruction. You'll miss being entitled assuming you survive it.

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@rmiller365 said:

Well yeah, why would Nintendo want to port to PC? If they're games where on PC they couldn't lock quality of life gameplay features behind $30 dollar toy figures (update, that toy is now around $60) and may be pressed to do 50% off sales for games on PC. Nintendo couldn't charge for their sub par online, and *gasp* think of the Mods! That's unacceptable for Nintendo, too much freedom for the consumer. You can't be the Kim Jong-Un of gaming and dictate content your base gets with an iron fist if you leave your own country.

Oookayyy... um, we need alternate terms for Godwin's Law.

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@Telekill said:

The article is written like a petulant child. The entitlement is oozing from the words.

To be fair that's 98% of gaming articles. 102% if it's Kotaku.

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@Telekill said:

The article is written like a petulant child. The entitlement is oozing from the words. I'm thinking it would be funny to see Nintendo and then Sony give the PC user base the middle finger given how they act and either outright deny or cancel PC ports altogether.

It's obvious people today don't appreciate anything but simply demand and expect what was it... oh yeah... "capitulation". I'm betting the lack of appreciation will change soon though given what's going on in the world. We're on the verge of a third World War and when that happens, we'll all see nothing new created and only destruction. You'll miss being entitled assuming you survive it.

Your response reads more like the petulant child that you are complaining about. 🤷‍♀️

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@wonderwinner said:

Nintendo is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! I TELL YA!

Really? Tell me more.

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@Pedro said:
@wonderwinner said:

Nintendo is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! I TELL YA!

Really? Tell me more.

@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

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@Pedro: Come on Pedro. You're well aware that the PC userbase has been entitled and demanding even before they started that Master Race BS. They appreciate nothing and it's obvious.

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@Telekill said:

@Pedro: Come on Pedro. You're well aware that the PC userbase has been entitled and demanding even before they started that Master Race BS. They appreciate nothing and it's obvious.

You keep using the word entitled and it is not applicable. Wanting something is not being or thinking that you are entitled. Your reaction to the article was particularly extreme man.

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@wonderwinner said:
@Pedro said:
@wonderwinner said:

Nintendo is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! I TELL YA!

Really? Tell me more.

@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

You draw that conclusion from my comment. Some things really are beyond your understanding.

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@Pedro said:
@wonderwinner said:
@Pedro said:
@wonderwinner said:

Nintendo is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! I TELL YA!

Really? Tell me more.

@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

You draw that conclusion from my comment. Some things really are beyond your understanding.

@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

lol

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#36 Pedro
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@wonderwinner: And you continue to demonstrate that my comment is beyond your understanding. 🤷‍♀️

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@Pedro said:

@wonderwinner: And you continue to demonstrate that my comment is beyond your understanding. 🤷‍♀️

@Pedro said:

The gaming market is changing and folks who are looking at gaming in the traditional way are going to get left behind. Mark my words.

lmao

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#38 Pedro
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@wonderwinner: You embarrassing yourself...again. 😆

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@Pedro: My reaction was based on the verbiage used in the article. Perhaps the author should rethink his writing style.

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@Telekill said:

@Pedro: My reaction was based on the verbiage used in the article. Perhaps the author should rethink his writing style.

Man, you went as far as WW3. 😐

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I doubt Nintendo will willingly bring their games to any platform other than their own. Thank goodness we have Jimmy Ryan (my boi) bringing those precious PS exclusives over. A true visionary.

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@Pedro: Because that's what's on the horizon. If you take a look, Russia is threatening the UK. China is threatening... well... everyone. Australia is looking for help from America to hold off China and we definitely need to work together to stop the communists. Then we even have the French president (the country known for waving the flag of surrender) getting in the face of the American president and wagging his finger, shaming him. WW3 is more than likely coming soon and when that happens, we'll all miss arguing over video games. That's the correlation I was drawing in reference to PC gamers being entitled as they will have nothing soon enough.

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@nintendoboy16: We could change it to the Lex Luthor or Red Skull of gaming if a fictional character is needed. The comparison just applies to basically any governing body that silences any unwanted request while simultaneously squeezing as much use out of their subjects as possible.

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@Telekill said:

@Pedro: Because that's what's on the horizon. If you take a look, Russia is threatening the UK. China is threatening... well... everyone. Australia is looking for help from America to hold off China and we definitely need to work together to stop the communists. Then we even have the French president (the country known for waving the flag of surrender) getting in the face of the American president and wagging his finger, shaming him. WW3 is more than likely coming soon and when that happens, we'll all miss arguing over video games. That's the correlation I was drawing in reference to PC gamers being entitled as they will have nothing soon enough.

😐😑

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@Pedro: I take it you haven't been looking much at world affairs. Time to start paying attention my friend. That's where I'll leave this tangent.

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#46 Pedro
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@Telekill said:

@Pedro: I take it you haven't been looking much at world affairs. Time to start paying attention my friend. That's where I'll leave this tangent.

I have and I don't share you views.

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Nintendo makes money hand over fist.

They simply don't need the cheetos crowd.

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@Telekill said:

@Pedro: Because that's what's on the horizon. If you take a look, Russia is threatening the UK. China is threatening... well... everyone. Australia is looking for help from America to hold off China and we definitely need to work together to stop the communists. Then we even have the French president (the country known for waving the flag of surrender) getting in the face of the American president and wagging his finger, shaming him. WW3 is more than likely coming soon and when that happens, we'll all miss arguing over video games. That's the correlation I was drawing in reference to PC gamers being entitled as they will have nothing soon enough.

So according to you all gamers are entitled and will soon have nothing.

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#49 Fedor
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@casey-wegner said:

Nintendo makes money hand over fist.

They simply don't need the cheetos crowd.

Have you seen the average Nintendo fanboy, Casey?

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But PC already has all nintendo games.