Patcher Is At It Again: "Nothing," The Xbox One Can Do

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#1  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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Pachter was asked by Siftd.net user:

“At this point what can Microsoft do, if anything, to close the gap between the Xbox One and PS4?”

Pachter’s answer was simple: “Nothing.” At this point, two years into the console’s life cycle, Mr. Pachter believes there’s nothing the Xbox can do to catch up now. To support his claim, Pachter took a look back at how the PlayStation 2, Sony’s best-selling console, sold 170 million units while Microsoft’s best-selling console, the Xbox 360, sold just 80 million units in its lifetime. He points out that in Xbox history the best-selling platform only sold half as many units as PlayStation’s best-selling platform. “We should start every console cycle assuming Sony’s going to outsell Microsoft 2 to 1, because they have twice as many people who know what their console is and like.”

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I guess he has finally seen the light and it's blue.

He previously said the opposite.LINK

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#2 xxgunslingerxx
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when is patcher right? I remember him saying the bone would catch up at some point as well. Patcher is a joke

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#3 chikenfriedrice
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Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

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#4 Flyincloud1116
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

I see what you did.

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#5  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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He is generally wrong, but just about every one realizes this competition is over. This us going to be PS1 style domination. It won't get PS2 levels bad...I don't think.

Makes sense when PS4 has twice as many games...

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#6 NyaDC
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The PlayStation 2 was available for like 13 years and most of those sales are attributed to extremely low prices and marketing in third world countries....

What a stupid comparison...

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#7 osan0
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right....right....*sell sony shares.

in fairness he is probably right on this one. unless MS land a surprising exlsuive hit that sell a lot of systems its unlikely MS will catch up.

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#8  Edited By oflow
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My question is when will Sony do something with their moment in the sun? Yeah they sell a lot of consoles but I'm still waiting for the 'wow' moment which hasnt happened for *me* regarding PS4. I bought a PS4 for Deep Down, EQ Next and KUF2 all games that Sony backburnered.

I dont like jrpgs, I'm not into the Souls games and if I wanted VR I'd do it on a PC that can actually handle it. Shenmue reboot? No thanks game is overrated by people who were 12 the first time they played it. I dont play FF either. I get that these are the second coming for some people, but not me. The multiplats are pretty much the same to me (I dont care about 900 v 1080 its not a big deal to me I grew up playing Atari 2600 in the 70s its all an upgrade to me)

I get this is system wars so bragging on consoles sold means something around here, but I dont own Sony stock so the number of consoles sold really doesnt effect me either way.

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#9  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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I actually think he's right on this one. Nobody expects to see Xbox One catches up to PS4. MS is just gonna have to suck it up and just do the best they can and they do put the pressure on Sony for time to time when it's all good for competition.

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#10 sovkhan
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Maybe the first and last time that this guy says something that makes sense!!!!

Kudos :)

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#11 BobRossPerm
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@nyadc said:

The PlayStation 2 was available for like 13 years and most of those sales are attributed to extremely low prices and marketing in third world countries....

What a stupid comparison...

The PS2 sold 100 million units in 5 years. And another 55 million while the next gen consoles were hogging all the limelight. That's quite impressive.

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#12  Edited By lamprey263
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I admit he's right, there's nothing they can do to narrow the gap but that doesn't mean the Xbox can't still do well on its own. They can still give people reasons to buy one, still try to deliver quality games to their patrons, that's all anybody can ask of them at this point.

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@bobrossperm said:
@nyadc said:

The PlayStation 2 was available for like 13 years and most of those sales are attributed to extremely low prices and marketing in third world countries....

What a stupid comparison...

The PS2 sold 100 million units in 5 years. And another 55 million while the next gen consoles were hogging all the limelight. That's quite impressive.

I didn't say it wasn't impressive, but context needs to be laid.

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Even a broken Clock is right twice a day.

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#16 coasterguy65
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Pachter is a moron in so many ways. All MS needs to do is invest in good quality exclusive games and keep them exclusive to the Xbone.

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#17 BobRossPerm
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@nyadc said:
@bobrossperm said:
@nyadc said:

The PlayStation 2 was available for like 13 years and most of those sales are attributed to extremely low prices and marketing in third world countries....

What a stupid comparison...

The PS2 sold 100 million units in 5 years. And another 55 million while the next gen consoles were hogging all the limelight. That's quite impressive.

I didn't say it wasn't impressive, but context needs to be laid.

You say the PS2 sold at cheap prices to sell what it did, yet the Gamecube was $99 by 2003 (PS2 and Xbox was $172 at that time). In fact the PS2 kept the same price as the Xbox the whole gen. They even dropped the price at similar times. You'd have a point if the PS2 was dirt cheap in comparison to it's direct competition, but it wasn't.

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#18 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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He's right, the gap will get bigger and bigger until MS calls it a day. Can't wait.

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#19 Shewgenja
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And now the fun can begin with this generation.

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#20 Flyincloud1116
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@bobrossperm: He has to sleep at night.

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@flyincloud1116 said:

Pachter was asked by Siftd.net user:

“At this point what can Microsoft do, if anything, to close the gap between the Xbox One and PS4?”

Pachter’s answer was simple: “Nothing.” At this point, two years into the console’s life cycle, Mr. Pachter believes there’s nothing the Xbox can do to catch up now. To support his claim, Pachter took a look back at how the PlayStation 2, Sony’s best-selling console, sold 170 million units while Microsoft’s best-selling console, the Xbox 360, sold just 80 million units in its lifetime. He points out that in Xbox history the best-selling platform only sold half as many units as PlayStation’s best-selling platform. “We should start every console cycle assuming Sony’s going to outsell Microsoft 2 to 1, because they have twice as many people who know what their console is and like.”

LINK

I guess he has finally seen the light and it's blue.

He previously said the opposite.LINK

Well, duh??? Who actually believes the XB1 will catch up at this point in time? The PS4 will easily sell 2x more units LTD than the XB1 by the end of this generation.

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#22 lundy86_4
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I agree with the overall outcome, but his workings are complete turd.

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Wait, this guy is still relevant? LOL

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#24  Edited By sonic_spark
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The point is correct. PS4 has won the gen in terms of sales. That we already know. It would have to be a steady stream of games, a couple key new IP's, and exclusives. And Microsoft simply does not have that. For whatever reason the PS4 outsold the Xbox.

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Who is this person?

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#26 silversix_
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So the DX12 isn't saving the console? What the hell

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@silversix_: It would take intervention from the almighty.

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#28 Heil68
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@lundy86_4 said:

I agree with the overall outcome, but his workings are complete turd.

Yup. I'm sure he gets a 6 figure salary too. He's the one who's outsmarting everyone.

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@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

Lol... yeah if he says they won't, they probably will.

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#30 clone01
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This is the most important news I've heard ever.

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#31 The-A-Baum
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Isn't thus the same buckle head that has been wrong on almost everything?

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once I a while. But this was a pretty easy softball .

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#32  Edited By suicidesn0wman
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Although I hope the Xbox can close the gap a little and at least make it appear like they have a chance, I think Nintendo has a better shot to do something against the PS4 if they nail it with the NX system. I do believe the Xbox can take back NA and the UK, but that won't be enough this gen.

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#33 blackace
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

Yeah, because we know that Patcher is never right about anything.

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#34 QuadKnight
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Probably the first and only time Pachter will ever be right lol.

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#35 funkmaster1233
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He's 100% correct. Sony are master manipulators so they can win gens despite not having worthwhile exclusives.

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@blackace said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

Yeah, because we know that Patcher is never right about anything.

He was right about PS Vita being a failure, so I'll give him that.

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#37 ConanTheStoner
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I don't see the Xbone catching up either. That said, this is a complete non-issue for Xbone owners. The system is doing more than well enough to continue getting most big releases and in the end it will largely share the same library as PS4.

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#38  Edited By SecretPolice
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Unholy cow, game over man, game freain over, there's no doubt now, Xbox Won !!

Who woulda thunk it. :P

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#39 Elaisse
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Who couldn't guess that at this point. It will more then likely do the original xbox numbers over its life time.

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#40  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Lol Pachter.

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@k--m--k: A person whose retardness is at unprecedented level.

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#42 tormentos
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

I am truly scare now...hahahaaa

That freaking old man doesn't hit one,in fact he claim the PS2 sold 170 million units,what the fu** he most have bough 15 million from sony and were never accounted the PS2 sold 155 million..lol

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#43 tormentos
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@oflow said:

My question is when will Sony do something with their moment in the sun? Yeah they sell a lot of consoles but I'm still waiting for the 'wow' moment which hasnt happened for *me* regarding PS4. I bought a PS4 for Deep Down, EQ Next and KUF2 all games that Sony backburnered.

I dont like jrpgs, I'm not into the Souls games and if I wanted VR I'd do it on a PC that can actually handle it. Shenmue reboot? No thanks game is overrated by people who were 12 the first time they played it. I dont play FF either. I get that these are the second coming for some people, but not me. The multiplats are pretty much the same to me (I dont care about 900 v 1080 its not a big deal to me I grew up playing Atari 2600 in the 70s its all an upgrade to me)

I get this is system wars so bragging on consoles sold means something around here, but I dont own Sony stock so the number of consoles sold really doesnt effect me either way.

The only thing missing in this post is a sentence saying "" I only like games on xbox and nothing more"".

And a picture of yourself.

Is quite easy to see how you downplay things on PS4 so that appear it has nothing to make it appeal,so you are not into souls game means it automatically has nothing,the best part is how you downplay 900p vs 1080p using Atari...lol

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#44 tormentos
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@suicidesn0wman said:

Although I hope the Xbox can close the gap a little and at least make it appear like they have a chance, I think Nintendo has a better shot to do something against the PS4 if they nail it with the NX system. I do believe the Xbox can take back NA and the UK, but that won't be enough this gen.

Nintendo would have to do right out of this world to do anything to the PS4,there is no recorded history on the market where a console came after another has hit 20 million and did something at all.

In fact the biggest example is the PS2 by the time the xbox and gamecube landed sony had some 23 to 25 million units sold,and look how 1 sided the beating was,the PS4 has 30 million and is selling faster still than the PS2 so i don't Nintendo catching not even if they did like the wii again.

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#45  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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He's an idiot.

Not for what he said about Xbox One, but when he compared the PS2 to the Xbox 360. Imagine there is X amount of the demographic to go around, well Sony got most of the demographic during the 6th gen. Last gen Xbox and Playstation pretty much shared the demographic. By the end they were both on around 80 million plus.

Plus the PS2 wasn't in the same time frame, it had some time before and lasted many years after.

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#46 Litchie
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Oooh, another Pachter thread! Thank you for bringing us the invaluable information about what our holy Pachter has to say. I was eagerly awaiting him to bless us with his genius. Such an amazing guy, where would we be without his predictions? There would be chaos and destruction.

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#47 Draign
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@tormentos said:
@oflow said:

My question is when will Sony do something with their moment in the sun? Yeah they sell a lot of consoles but I'm still waiting for the 'wow' moment which hasnt happened for *me* regarding PS4. I bought a PS4 for Deep Down, EQ Next and KUF2 all games that Sony backburnered.

I dont like jrpgs, I'm not into the Souls games and if I wanted VR I'd do it on a PC that can actually handle it. Shenmue reboot? No thanks game is overrated by people who were 12 the first time they played it. I dont play FF either. I get that these are the second coming for some people, but not me. The multiplats are pretty much the same to me (I dont care about 900 v 1080 its not a big deal to me I grew up playing Atari 2600 in the 70s its all an upgrade to me)

I get this is system wars so bragging on consoles sold means something around here, but I dont own Sony stock so the number of consoles sold really doesnt effect me either way.

The only thing missing in this post is a sentence saying "" I only like games on xbox and nothing more"".

And a picture of yourself.

Is quite easy to see how you downplay things on PS4 so that appear it has nothing to make it appeal,so you are not into souls game means it automatically has nothing,the best part is how you downplay 900p vs 1080p using Atari...lol

Youre mad because he is honest.

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#48 Sollet
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Sweet....Xbox will catch up!

lol true

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#49  Edited By oflow
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@tormentos: hey dickhead, that why i emphasized to *me* in my comment. the most obnoxious sony fan on this forum calling people out for having a preference is laughable.