Pachter: "PlayStation 5 Will Be Dead on Arrival..."

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#1 loco145
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Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter recently painted a wild price tag on Sony’s next-generation PlayStation 5 console. He said that the Japanese giant could price the successor to the PlayStation 4 at a whopping $800.

Such crazy pricing could kill Sony’s next PlayStation. But the company has dropped a hint that it could be heading that way.

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Sony had a mediocre run.

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#2 pyro1245
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PCIe gen 4 is 'spensive.

I don't think Sony is stupid enough to do that though. No doubt they remember the PS3 launch.

They will cut corners somewhere and get the price down to $500 or then it will really be DOA.

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#3 R-Gamer
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I think it will sell for $500 and cost them about $600.

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#4 Ten_Pints
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A

Another win for Sony then.

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#5  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Once upon a time michael patcher believe that no one had PC that is as good as PS3.

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#6 Ant_17
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Pachter always wrong, so PS5 will be GOTY.

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#7 Archangel3371
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Well if they did price it at $800 then yeah it would be DOA but I’m sure that it isn’t going to be $800. I really can’t see either Microsoft or Sony pricing their next gen systems at anything over $500.

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#8 Random_Matt
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Even making a thread about this clown makes you an even bigger clown, neither MS or Sony are releasing a $800 machine.

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#9 R4gn4r0k
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Pachter thread xD

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#10 djoffer
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Lol would be hilarious if true, but doubt even Sony would be this stupid!

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#11 Valgaav_219
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@Random_Matt said:

Even making a thread about this clown makes you an even bigger clown, neither MS or Sony are releasing a $800 machine.

If PS5 releases at $800 I just won't buy one, even when it gets down to $200-250. I simply won't support it.

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#12 DocSanchez
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PS5 confirmed winnar.

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#13 lamprey263
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Have they even announced a release date or final specs? I think all that would be relevant to it releasing at a cost that doesn't strain them financially. Given their place in current gen they're less pressed to release a new console at same time Microsoft does, they'd just have to weigh not doing so with giving MS a head start, but even PS3 managed to close the gap even after later launch and a rocky start. They also do much better worldwide, MS might still not have very good regional marketing outside North America which will also work in Sony's favor.

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#14 KillzoneSnake
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Patcher? His predictions are good jokes.

Let's say it was $800... monster consoles with 12+tf gpu, full PS backwards comp, big exclusives. It would still sell. But no worries, it wont go over 600.

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#15 rmpumper
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  1. Pachter is an idiot
  2. Xbox will be as expensive as PS5
  3. Exclusives will determine, which console will sell more, just like this gen
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#16 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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Yeah, this confirms it. PS5 will rule the world next gen.

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#17 PC_Rocks
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Patcher...why people still listen or give attention to this clown?

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#18 DarthBuzzard
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I've got a prediction. Pachter's prediction will be dead on arrival. There you go.

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#19 deactivated-5ea0704839e9e
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Its what people wanted. 8 year generation. People see the console purchase as a product which will last a long time.

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#20 Calvincfb
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Who?

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#21  Edited By lundy86_4
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That's an outlandish claim lol. I fully expect them to hit the $500USD mark, likely with a $100 or so loss per unit... That is unless we see them really cut-back on portions of the unit to reduce costs drastically.

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#22 2Chalupas
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Playstation's new leader seems a bit of a dumbass, but there's no way they are THAT stupid to repeat the PS3 mistake (pricing themselves out of the mainstream market). $800 would be marketplace suicide.

They could get away with $500, but I really think $399 is still the sweetspot. So that means the machine has to start out with a build cost around $400-500 depending on how much day 1 loss they are willing to take. If the build cost is $800 or the MSRP is $800, they might as well close up shop because it would be guaranteed to fail on all fronts (market share, 3rd party support, profitability).

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#23 DaVillain-  Moderator
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Pachter is a living meme at this point, because despite being a Professional Analyst (if you can call it) he's laughably always wrong about every major prediction he makes. He just conjures up controversial predictions for attention. That was the only reason Gametrailers ever used to keep him around. If Pachter says that something will happen then you can guarantee that it won't, but at least he was right about PS Vita but that's about it.

Also, Pachter said something really bad about PC gamers in the past and that piss alot of PC gamers, he get's hated the most from PC Community lol.

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#24 ProtossRushX
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How can it be DoA if im buying it day one that means its alive and well and flourishing like a tree planted in the ground

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#25 Howmakewood
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Its amazing how someone still pays him.

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#26 Sgt_Crow
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He’s still around? Oh wow...

Has he ever been right in the past two decades?

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#27 BassMan
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Well, if it is DOA, I will just exchange it for another one. ;)

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#28 warmblur
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I can't believe people still listen to Pachter.

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#29 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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How is this news? Sony isn't pricing the PS5 at $800 lol. I might as well announce "human civilization will be destroyed tomorrow if mars crashes into earth" and have news articles written about me too :P.

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#30 ThatDBFan
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I highly doubt they wanna repeat the PS3. Anything over 500 bucks is doomed to fail.

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#31 MonsieurX
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Pachter deserves the same treatment as vgchartz

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#32 FinalFighters
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why even waste your time creating this thread with this nonsense?

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#33 RicanV  Moderator
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Echoing the sentiments above - Pachter is widely known as a joke to the industry. His worth is in generating buzz through his atrocious predictions. I am not sure if he does actual "analyst" work anymore.

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#34  Edited By GoldenElementXL
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I’m on my phone so I can’t link at the moment, but there are multiple outlets now reporting that the PS5 may be a premium device that is targeting enthusiasts. A “premium” console will most likely be $500+. And using places like this board for reference, we all know console gamers don’t like spending money.

And hey, Pach nailed his Switch Lite prediction. Maybe he’s going on a hot streak

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#35  Edited By ellos
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I'm all for a 500+ price tag if the specs are impressive enough to justify it. I don't believe and trust Sony that will be the case though. I could maybe see it happen when streaming takes over or a cheaper sku accompanies it. They simply had no choice with ps3 Kutaragi went crazy.

There getting you all hyped about ssd and loading times hiding the cheapest thing about the console. I would not be suprised if the gpu is cheap barely stronger then X to make up the price.

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#36 Pedro
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It would be hilarious and stupid for the PS5 to be greater than $500.

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#37  Edited By Ant_17
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@goldenelementxl said:

I’m on my phone so I can’t link at the moment, but there are multiple outlets now reporting that the PS5 may be a premium device that is targeting enthusiasts. A “premium” console will most likely be $500+. And using places like this board for reference, we all know console gamers don’t like spending money.

And hey, Pach nailed his Switch Lite prediction. Maybe he’s going on a hot streak

I think a 5yo would guess this Nintendo move, since they do it everytime.

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#38 deactivated-5ea0704839e9e
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@goldenelementxl:

Console gamers dont like spending money? Id say they spend more than pc gamers. Accessories, memberships, and its not at all uncommon for people to own multiple consoles. Then theres that whole collecting scene which i just dont understand.

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#39 Basinboy
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At that price, probably. But they’re clearly trying to steer PS toward a more premium user experience, so hard to conclude that they won’t price it that high.

That said, they’re not going to. Sourcing the same chips as MS means they’ll be in the same ballpark.

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#40 DEVILinIRON
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Maybe somebody wants Sony to dip in stock before the PS5 comes out so they can make some dough. You know, manipulating stock prices by feeding bad information. Imma buy some stocks right now!

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#41 Fedor
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Console gamers will freak out if they have to spend more than $500... It will be hilarious.

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#42  Edited By adsparky
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They will be really stupid if they do that.

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#43 Chutebox
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Bad news for lems

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#44 deactivated-5ea0704839e9e
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Yall are crazy. People WANT the price to be higher. People would rather have the system, which will have an 8 year cycle, have better hardware.

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#45 Fedor
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@heirren: Lol, sure they do.

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#46 GoldenElementXL
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@heirren:

1 - Console gamers don’t like to spend more than $399 for consoles.

2 - Console gamers bitch about $60 games and micro transactions.

3 - Recent polls on this site have illustrated how many of you don’t actually have the online subscriptions. I wonder if that’s why so many here claim to hate multiplayer games and love narrative driven single player games

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#47 FireEmblem_Man
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LOL, Cows praised Patcher about the Switch going to be dead with PS5 coming out, now they say he's a liar and a bad analyst when he predicts the PS5 to be $800

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#48 deactivated-5ea0704839e9e
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@goldenelementxl:

The market has changed. I recall people saying theyd prefer if the ps4 cost a bit more in exchange for better hardware.

Microtransaction complaints are not about the money.

Console gamers buy 60 dollar games. Where did you get the figure to make such a bold claim?

Do you have membership numbers?

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#49 DragonfireXZ95
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I would actually be down for that if the hardware is better than we anticipate. I was planning on skipping the PS4 completely and picking up the PS5 at launch to play all of the PS4 exclusive games at decent res/fps.

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#50 KBFloYd
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well,

you had a good run cows. lol