Official Ni No Kuni thread: Top of the charts

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

After reading that review, it seems like this guy went into it wanting to hate it, and just b!tched for the sake of b!tching. litteraly nit picking.

maybe it's just not your kind of game bro.

Sagem28

Complaining about grinding in a JRPG is a bit silly, indeed :P

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

After reading that review, it seems like this guy went into it wanting to hate it, and just b!tched for the sake of b!tching. litteraly nit picking.

maybe it's just not your kind of game bro.

Heil68

Complaining about grinding in a JRPG is a bit silly, indeed :P

That's part of the fun.

At least for me.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

Sure fine, like a I said a new gen is a great time for that. However, going back to the can't exceed hype proposition. What would stop factions from voting AE or een B on all hype threads? With B technically it wouldn't be a flop no mater how low a score i would get :P Kind of a loophole no? It would take away the risk of even voting AAE and it getting a lower score.

I really think we should keep it simple, but if the possible new changes are good I would welcome them. We just need to make sure the rules aren't ambiguous nor allow any sort of exploitation :P

Desmonic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

Sure fine, like a I said a new gen is a great time for that. However, going back to the can't exceed hype proposition. What would stop factions from voting AE or een B on all hype threads? With B technically it wouldn't be a flop no mater how low a score i would get :P Kind of a loophole no? It would take away the risk of even voting AAE and it getting a lower score.

I really think we should keep it simple, but if the possible new changes are good I would welcome them. We just need to make sure the rules aren't ambiguous nor allow any sort of exploitation :P

Desmonic

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

After reading that review, it seems like this guy went into it wanting to hate it, and just b!tched for the sake of b!tching. litteraly nit picking.

maybe it's just not your kind of game bro.

Heil68

Complaining about grinding in a JRPG is a bit silly, indeed :P

Game looks like a lot of fun. I just bought this for my brother for his birthday. My PS3 YLOD'd a while back, but I still want to support these type of games coming state side, so his birthday gave me an excuse to buy it.

I could spend hours and hours in the towne and not get broed, this is the real JRPG i been waiting for so long :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ottI2x9b0yg&list=UUINy630QRCB9381rAjPbUnw&index=1

this is the real JRPG i been waiting for so long :cry:

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

For SW purposes, this will be considered AAE Only cuz cows were too chicken to hype it AAAE :o

So it is written "slaps chest" so shall it be done. :twisted:

SecretPolice

that's when we de-officialized hype threads. i guess they were always pointless but it was pretty ridiculous back then.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] What a surprise major lembot butthurt master finds one of the worst reviews and starts damage controlling.Eddie-Vedder

Finally, someone friggin' points the bloody point of the factions out...

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Darklink is a lemming? Are you seriously that dumb?sanim02

Finally, someone friggin' points the bloody point of the factions out...

Hehe

Oh such are the wonders of System Wars, Such a closet case tbh. lulz

*sips true tea*

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] What a surprise major lembot butthurt master finds one of the worst reviews and starts damage controlling.Eddie-Vedder

:shock:

#tru tea spilt

I could spend hours and hours in the towne and not get broed, this is the real JRPG i been waiting for so long :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ottI2x9b0yg&list=UUINy630QRCB9381rAjPbUnw&index=1

Did the creators say this will remain exclusive or may there be a Wii U version at some point?
(Obviously a Wii U version hasn't been mentioned, I am asking whether a Wii U version is out the window.)

Did the creators say this will remain exclusive or may there be a Wii U version at some point?
(Obviously a Wii U version hasn't been mentioned, I am asking whether a Wii U version is out the window.)

KungfuKitten

Wii U? no its not going to any other system, its already out on the PS3 so i dont get why you want it on the Wii U :|

a sequal might end up being multiplatform but Ni No Kuni is only on PS3 and NAmco made it clear

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I could spend hours and hours in the towne and not get broed, this is the real JRPG i been waiting for so long :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ottI2x9b0yg&list=UUINy630QRCB9381rAjPbUnw&index=1

Sebastien_

Everything really, from the amazing soundtrack, Great visuals its like being in an animation film and not a game, very addictive battle system ( i could spend hours and hours just batteling) to a great story and lots more! im already 6 hours into the game and loving it

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] What a surprise major lembot butthurt master finds one of the worst reviews and starts damage controlling.Eddie-Vedder

My copy came today so I'm about to fire it up. I see the lembots are still here damage controlling too. :(

Loving the game so far, just got my first party member and am now at the Temple of Trials in Al-Mamoon.

So, do the monsters really evolve? Do they look cool?

So, do the monsters really evolve? Do they look cool?

el3m2tigre

They do evolve, but idk when i'll be able to make them evolve.

First time around they evolve around level 13, then its level 33 (not sure if it applies to every monsters) but at level 33 you have 2 choice. Say with the first familiar he's at his last evolution one of those is defense centered while the other is attack centered.

There's 77 familiars you can capture with 3 evolutions each so thats a ton of possibility. IMO they look fine so far.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

So, do the monsters really evolve? Do they look cool?

archvile_78

They do evolve, but idk when i'll be able to make them evolve.

First time around they evolve around level 13, then its level 33 (not sure if it applies to every monsters) but at level 33 you have 2 choice. Say with the first familiar he's at his last evolution one of those is defense centered while the other is attack centered.

There's 77 familiars you can capture with 3 evolutions each so thats a ton of possibility. IMO they look fine so far.

So, do the monsters really evolve? Do they look cool?

el3m2tigre

Not quite sure yet i havent made it to where they can evolve yet but they do evolve heck you can even feed them, give them weapons, attacks, etc

[QUOTE="Sebastien_"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I could spend hours and hours in the towne and not get broed, this is the real JRPG i been waiting for so long :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ottI2x9b0yg&list=UUINy630QRCB9381rAjPbUnw&index=1

finalstar2007

Everything really, from the amazing soundtrack, Great visuals its like being in an animation film and not a game, very addictive battle system ( i could spend hours and hours just batteling) to a great story and lots more! im already 6 hours into the game and loving it

do you think it could be good for somebody who's been disillusioned by the jrpgs released since final fantasy x? i used to love them back in the old days when there was chrono trigger, secret of mana, secret of evermore, illusion of gaia, final fantasy 4, 6, and 7, dragon warrior 1 through 4, etc.

the only ones i've played and enjoyed semi-recently were the kingdom hearts games.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

So, do the monsters really evolve? Do they look cool?

finalstar2007

Not quite sure yet i havent made it to where they can evolve yet but they do evolve heck you can even feed them, give them weapons, attacks, etc

I just evolved one of my creatures (the game forces you to as part of thre story). They go back to level 1 when you evolve them though. Kinda lame even if they do end up becoming stronger down the line.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Sebastien_"] What do you like about it most?CaseyWegner

Everything really, from the amazing soundtrack, Great visuals its like being in an animation film and not a game, very addictive battle system ( i could spend hours and hours just batteling) to a great story and lots more! im already 6 hours into the game and loving it

do you think it could be good for somebody who's been disillusioned by the jrpgs released since final fantasy x? i used to love them back in the old days when there was chrono trigger, secret of mana, secret of evermore, illusion of gaia, final fantasy 4, 6, and 7, dragon warrior 1 through 4, etc.

the only ones i've played and enjoyed semi-recently were the kingdom hearts games.

You could always try the demo and see if you like it, its something to try out for yourself. You could rent it if possible.

Okay people i just now learned how to tame and evolve familiars after completing the temple of trial

Taming: Once you're done with the Temple, a certain party member will receive an harp meaning only this character can tame familiars. The concept is simple, like in Pokemon beating up on the monster (it doesnt matter who beat it up as long as the character using the harp is the one able to tame them) drain their HP naturally and when they're near death if a heart symbol appear on top of their head they're ready for being tamed, simple as that. If you carry too many familiar you can stock them at that stone thats often found by save points so you can collect a whole lot of them.

Evolving: Once a familiar reach a certain level they can evolve. I'll take the first one you get in the game for explaining, once the Mite is level 13 you need to feed it a specific treat. For example with the Mite when you use it in battle you see a little symbol next to his picture, in this case a sun symbol. You need a special treat with the sun symbol and feed it to him so he can evolve (other familiars may need a treat with a moon symbol, etc) once evolved it revert back to level 1 but when it level up it will grow a whole lot stronger.

The base stat of my evolve mite at level 1 are like 38 atk, 34 def, 13 mag.atk, 24 mag def, 38 acc, 30 eva so you can see at level one he's still a force to be reckoned with! I do not know yet where to get those evolution treat but ill update as i play.

This RPG looks amazing

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, I was considering it down the road, then I read this review.

Game sounds tedious as all f*ck, and I do not have the patience for that kind of thing anymore.

Can anyone who's played it support/debunk this review? It's a pretty quick read.

ultraking

EDIT: he wasnt gonna buy it anyway

Well now i've found a certain flaw that can become frustrating.

Okay at some point you're getting a party member, Esther is her name. Now the problem with AI is that they drain out their MP at lightspeed and i'm not even kidding. For some reason they also cannot defend and use items and in the game, some enemies have certain attack that hits everyone like bosses for example they all have this special attack that can deal massive damage if you do not defend.

I was thinking about "Defending" myself with Oliver/whatever familiar i used then switching to Esther and "Defend" as well but IIRC it doesn't let you switch while in defense mode. I ended up needing to solo the volcano boss equipped with a fire sword (no idea why i even equipped my familiar with that in the first place)

It kinda put me off especially if the game is gonna get harder. My best recommendation would be to remove whatever MP spell your AI's familiar use and manually heal with her during bosses otherwise you might as well solo.

I suppose this could have used some sort of Gambit system like FFXII.

^^

Reminds me of KH where Donald would spam healing Sora until he ran out of MP and then he would die and leave me off with either Goofy or whatever world specific character to deal with them bosses and enemies...Oh Donald :P Luckily in KH 2 you could change that, but damn it was annoying.

Desmonic

You can set tactic in NNK but it all come down to dem 1 damage with their physical attack after draining their MP in 3 seconds.

I normally wouldn't mind micromanaging tougher fight but for some reason if you use a familiar as Oliver and press L1 to switch over to Esther, Oliver's familiar is pulled back and sent out again.

Once i get Swaine (the third party member) much lul should ensue.

Well now i've found a certain flaw that can become frustrating.

Okay at some point you're getting a party member, Esther is her name. Now the problem with AI is that they drain out their MP at lightspeed and i'm not even kidding. For some reason they also cannot defend and use items and in the game, some enemies have certain attack that hits everyone like bosses for example they all have this special attack that can deal massive damage if you do not defend.

I was thinking about "Defending" myself with Oliver/whatever familiar i used then switching to Esther and "Defend" as well but IIRC it doesn't let you switch while in defense mode. I ended up needing to solo the volcano boss equipped with a fire sword (no idea why i even equipped my familiar with that in the first place)

It kinda put me off especially if the game is gonna get harder. My best recommendation would be to remove whatever MP spell your AI's familiar use and manually heal with her during bosses otherwise you might as well solo.

I suppose this could have used some sort of Gambit system like FFXII.

archvile_78

From what I've read in the strategy guide, later in the game you are able to give quick commands, "all out attack" (square button I think), and "all out defend" (triangle) to all party members. You still have to give Oli (or whomever you're controlling) the defend command manually, but are able to make the others defend at a push of a button.

Makes you wonder why they don't allow this early on in the game as I've had the same problem. There've been a few bosses where I don't even bother bringing back a fallen party member back because what you said which sucks because their familiars are pulled out of play. Yea, the AI can be a bit dumb at points.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Sebastien_"] What do you like about it most?CaseyWegner

Everything really, from the amazing soundtrack, Great visuals its like being in an animation film and not a game, very addictive battle system ( i could spend hours and hours just batteling) to a great story and lots more! im already 6 hours into the game and loving it

do you think it could be good for somebody who's been disillusioned by the jrpgs released since final fantasy x? i used to love them back in the old days when there was chrono trigger, secret of mana, secret of evermore, illusion of gaia, final fantasy 4, 6, and 7, dragon warrior 1 through 4, etc.

the only ones i've played and enjoyed semi-recently were the kingdom hearts games.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Everything really, from the amazing soundtrack, Great visuals its like being in an animation film and not a game, very addictive battle system ( i could spend hours and hours just batteling) to a great story and lots more! im already 6 hours into the game and loving it

nosmokingbandit

do you think it could be good for somebody who's been disillusioned by the jrpgs released since final fantasy x? i used to love them back in the old days when there was chrono trigger, secret of mana, secret of evermore, illusion of gaia, final fantasy 4, 6, and 7, dragon warrior 1 through 4, etc.

the only ones i've played and enjoyed semi-recently were the kingdom hearts games.

i'd go out and rent it but i have such a huge backlog of games right now (thank you, steam winter sale) that there's just not enough time.

Speaking on strategy guides, I was browsing through Prima's last night and this game's freakin' COMPLEX. Each familiar has their own sign: star, sun, moon, and the ultra rare planet, and each have huge benefits against the other (30-50% more effective if you're using the right sign IIRC) Star beats sun, sun beats moon, moon beats star. Each familiar has their own affinities and vulnerabilities, roles, recharge times, clock it all back to zero once metamorphosis happens and start over. They're divided in genuses and classes, some prefer and will benefit fighting along Oliver and some along others.

Jeeez. How the f*ck am I supposed to remember all of this, for each familiar? There's no way I can. I just learned how to recruit monsters so have about 10 so far, but with 300+ available, I mean....WTF? I'm going to need to stick by one or two dozen the whole way through at most, and even that's more than I can even hope of remembering what they're good against in battle at any given moment. I've found that in regular battles all of this info is not really necessary (though I hear it gets much harder) so I only care about it for bosses really. At THIS point so far, but I have a feeling I need to be, er......very familiar with my familiars if I wish to survive on normal later on.

People call this game kiddie. Man alive......in appearence only. This has got to be one of the most in-depth RPGs out there. INSANELY in-depth. I've never had to put so much consideration into how a difficult battle is approached. I'm at the volcano but am tempted to start over as I've put a lot of time into my fams without really even realizing how specialized they are and how a well rounded party is crucial to success. This is not emphasized on in the in-game tutorials, so those just starting: pay close attention to each familiar and what you want them to do.

Speaking on strategy guides, I was browsing through Prima's last night and this game's freakin' COMPLEX. Each familiar has their own sign: star, sun, moon, and the ultra rare planet, and each have huge benefits against the other (30-50% more effective if you're using the right sign IIRC) Star beats sun, sun beats moon, moon beats star. Each familiar has their own affinities and vulnerabilities, roles, recharge times, clock it all back to zero once metamorphosis happens and start over. They're divided in genuses and classes, some prefer and will benefit fighting along Oliver and some along others.

Jeeez. How the f*ck am I supposed to remember all of this, for each familiar? There's no way I can. I just learned how to recruit monsters so have about 10 so far, but with 300+ available, I mean....WTF? I'm going to need to stick by one or two dozen the whole way through at most, and even that's more than I can even hope of remembering what they're good against in battle at any given moment. I've found that in regular battles all of this info is not really necessary (though I hear it gets much harder) so I only care about it for bosses really. At THIS point so far, but I have a feeling I need to be, er......very familiar with my familiars if I wish to survive on normal later on.

People call this game kiddie. Man alive......in appearence only. This has got to be one of the most in-depth RPGs out there. INSANELY in-depth. I've never had to put so much consideration into how a difficult battle is approached. I'm at the volcano but am tempted to start over as I've put a lot of time into my fams without really even realizing how specialized they are and how a well rounded party is crucial to success. This is not emphasized on in the in-game tutorials, so those just starting: pay close attention to each familiar and what you want them to do.

MirkoS77

Sounds like Pokemon, but less complex.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

Speaking on strategy guides, I was browsing through Prima's last night and this game's freakin' COMPLEX. Each familiar has their own sign: star, sun, moon, and the ultra rare planet, and each have huge benefits against the other (30-50% more effective if you're using the right sign IIRC) Star beats sun, sun beats moon, moon beats star. Each familiar has their own affinities and vulnerabilities, roles, recharge times, clock it all back to zero once metamorphosis happens and start over. They're divided in genuses and classes, some prefer and will benefit fighting along Oliver and some along others.

Jeeez. How the f*ck am I supposed to remember all of this, for each familiar? There's no way I can. I just learned how to recruit monsters so have about 10 so far, but with 300+ available, I mean....WTF? I'm going to need to stick by one or two dozen the whole way through at most, and even that's more than I can even hope of remembering what they're good against in battle at any given moment. I've found that in regular battles all of this info is not really necessary (though I hear it gets much harder) so I only care about it for bosses really. At THIS point so far, but I have a feeling I need to be, er......very familiar with my familiars if I wish to survive on normal later on.

People call this game kiddie. Man alive......in appearence only. This has got to be one of the most in-depth RPGs out there. INSANELY in-depth. I've never had to put so much consideration into how a difficult battle is approached. I'm at the volcano but am tempted to start over as I've put a lot of time into my fams without really even realizing how specialized they are and how a well rounded party is crucial to success. This is not emphasized on in the in-game tutorials, so those just starting: pay close attention to each familiar and what you want them to do.

Yangire

Sounds like Pokemon, but less complex.

Well now i've found a certain flaw that can become frustrating.

I was thinking about "Defending" myself with Oliver/whatever familiar i used then switching to Esther and "Defend" as well but IIRC it doesn't let you switch while in defense mode. I ended up needing to solo the volcano boss equipped with a fire sword (no idea why i even equipped my familiar with that in the first place)

archvile_78

[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

Well now i've found a certain flaw that can become frustrating.

I was thinking about "Defending" myself with Oliver/whatever familiar i used then switching to Esther and "Defend" as well but IIRC it doesn't let you switch while in defense mode. I ended up needing to solo the volcano boss equipped with a fire sword (no idea why i even equipped my familiar with that in the first place)

-Unreal-

Yeah that's what i've read. I'd have just given it as soon as you get Esther. I was hoping i could micromanage "Defend" until i unlock that but nope, if i make Oliver defend and switch to, say, Esther to manually defend i think it remove Oliver of defense.