Official E3 Microsoft Thread || Xbox One X @ $499 + a whole lot of games!

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

EA just announced Anthem, their new IP, which will debut at the MS conference.

It will probably look amazing on Scorpio.

Yeah, EA conference is basically sucking and they are just like, wait for MS conference tomorrow for more details.

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I'm looking forward to see what the new game Playground games is working on, everyone seems to have forgotten about that :(

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Anthem. Looks interesting.

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2017-xbox-one-s-price-cut-announced-starts-tomo/1100-6450719/

Xbox One S is getting a price cut.

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@loe12k: I'm just curious if it's a new RPG or an online Destiny-like game.

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@loe12k: I'm going to reserve my judgement until I actually see the gameplay. :)

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@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

If it costs more than 400 it will be DOA unless they've got some megaton exclusives that somehow haven't leaked which I highly doubt.

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#59  Edited By oflow
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@loe12k: they are having a big gaming event/party at Xbox Fanfest after the briefing. I imagine some of this will be streamed from there.

I didnt even goto the EA event its at the Palladium in Hollywood not at Staples Center and I didnt feel like driving over there thru Hollywood traffic, not worth it unless you arent from here and trying to take in everything. Didnt miss much probably I went last year. I was happy to see NBA Live back to form though thats great news.

The rest I can wait til they hit EA Access.


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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

If it costs more than 400 it will be DOA unless they've got some megaton exclusives that somehow haven't leaked which I highly doubt.

No, it won't be... $399 was always going to be a long shot. Everyone (in particular cows & the media) have got in their heads that if it isn't $399 then it's going to "fail", which is ridiculous. For what Scorpio is, and what it's packing, $449 or $499 was always going to be more realistic. This is a premium console, that isn't for everyone.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: no it won't people are hyped and saying they don't care what it costs.

That 4K Madden looks like watching real life almost.

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@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

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https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/switch-is-doomed-scorpio-will-cost-more-than-400-s-33374395/

@Desmonic said:

Betting on $499 for the Scorpio but I expect the Switch to be a hit, especially if no bad news come out before release.

So... can I say I called it? :P Granted, MS can still make me eat crow hehe

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@Desmonic: I always leaned toward the highend especially when I thought it might have Ryzen. I set aside $700 for it when it was announced. I'm thinking 499 standard 1 TB HDD.

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Amazing price for the OneS

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@Desmonic said:
@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

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https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/switch-is-doomed-scorpio-will-cost-more-than-400-s-33374395/

@Desmonic said:

Betting on $499 for the Scorpio but I expect the Switch to be a hit, especially if no bad news come out before release.

So... can I say I called it? :P Granted, MS can still make me eat crow hehe

After the reveal, I was sure it would be $499. Spencer's language made it more obvious.

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#67  Edited By oflow
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@metalslimenite: lol no it will be sold out minutes after they announce its going up for preorder. watch.

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@metalslimenite said:

So it's gonna sell even worse than PS4 Pro? lol

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

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@gordonfreeman said:
@metalslimenite said:

So it's gonna sell even worse than PS4 Pro? lol

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

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#71  Edited By Daniel_Su123
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@Chutebox: Not really, if the console provides a better experience for games and content, then that alone will make it sell better than PS4 Pro.

Every game will look better on Scorpio regardless

Scorpio has a clear market.

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@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@metalslimenite said:

So it's gonna sell even worse than PS4 Pro? lol

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

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@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@metalslimenite said:

So it's gonna sell even worse than PS4 Pro? lol

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

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@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@metalslimenite said:

So it's gonna sell even worse than PS4 Pro? lol

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

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@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

You yourself said you think it would be 450, no? I'm not saying it's DoA like dude above, but don't you think the price will effect sales if it's an expensive console?

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@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

You yourself said you think it would be 450, no? I'm not saying it's DoA like dude above, but don't you think the price will effect sales if it's an expensive console?

I think if it's $500 or below it won't at all affect sales, people are looking for a competent system for the 4K medium and this in the only one that appears to actually encompasses and deliver it properly.

I'm still going with $449.99.

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@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:

Why would it? It's a better system in literally every capacity, and not by a small amount either, it's better in not only its hardware but in the way it handles game software.

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

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#79  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:

$$$

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

Yes, however given what I said his implication could simply be seen as this is a premium device so of course it's going to cost more than what is around it, but that doesn't facilitate it as being expensive.

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#80 Zero_epyon
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@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Chutebox said:
@gordonfreeman said:

That all depends on how proportional the cost is, something no one knows. Proportionally given what we know a $100 cost premium would be completely within acceptable bounds and $150 would start pushing it out of that.

If it's 499, that right there will push it to niche market area. Something that Phil kind of hinted at when he said premium. We'll see though.

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

Yes, however given what I said his implication could simply be seen as this is a premium device so of course it's going to cost more than what is around it, but that doesn't facilitate it as being expensive.

However you want to spin it...

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#81  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

Yes, however given what I said his implication could simply be seen as this is a premium device so of course it's going to cost more than what is around it, but that doesn't facilitate it as being expensive.

However you want to spin it...

It's not spin, I just don't see it the same way as you may.

He also went onto to say that it wouldn't be priced so far from the Xbox One S that they would feel disconnected, and that just dropped in price to $250.

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#82 Zero_epyon
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@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:

When he said premium he was talking about the system itself, and it is a premium console, but that doesn't necessarily reflect price.

It can simply mean of greater quality or superior.

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

Yes, however given what I said his implication could simply be seen as this is a premium device so of course it's going to cost more than what is around it, but that doesn't facilitate it as being expensive.

However you want to spin it...

It's not spin, I just don't see it the same way as you may.

He also went onto to say that it wouldn't be priced so far from the Xbox One S that they would feel disconnected, and that just dropped in price to $250.

Well if that's true and going solely that, then $399 should be since Xbox One S just got dropped to $199

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#83  Edited By GordonFreeman
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@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@gordonfreeman said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Every time he mentioned scorpio being a premium console it was in response to a question about price.

Yes, however given what I said his implication could simply be seen as this is a premium device so of course it's going to cost more than what is around it, but that doesn't facilitate it as being expensive.

However you want to spin it...

It's not spin, I just don't see it the same way as you may.

He also went onto to say that it wouldn't be priced so far from the Xbox One S that they would feel disconnected, and that just dropped in price to $250.

Well if that's true and going solely that, then $399 should be since Xbox One S just got dropped to $199

Oh it got dropped to $199? That's pretty aggressive, I thought it was $250.

This is Phil's direct quote btw.

"When we designed both of these, which we kind of designed it in parallel. We thought about the price performance of what we wanted to hit with the Scorpio, relative to what we were going to be able to do with the S. So that we would have a good price continuum, so people wouldn't look at these two things as so disconnected because of the price delta"

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#84  Edited By loe12k
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

If it costs more than 400 it will be DOA unless they've got some megaton exclusives that somehow haven't leaked which I highly doubt.

Who knows. Microsoft, could be spreading false rumors about the price, on the day spring a surprise 399$.. Price is going tobe between 399 and 499$ .. Above 500 it will not sell and Microsoft is aware of that.

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I remember last year when the dummies were crying about the S being DOA. They've always positioned the Scorpio as a premium product and not as something that will replace the S, for now at least.

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#86  Edited By Daniel_Su123
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@mems_1224 said:

I remember last year when the dummies were crying about the S being DOA. They've always positioned the Scorpio as a premium product and not as something that will replace the S, for now at least.

No one has said that Scorpio will replace the One S. Maybe by the time the next gen Xbox is released.

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That Anthem teaser looked very intriguing, can't wait to see more of it tomorrow.

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Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@loe12k said:

Jez just tweeted this, hope he's wrong. I not surprised though.

If it costs more than 400 it will be DOA unless they've got some megaton exclusives that somehow haven't leaked which I highly doubt.

No, it won't be... $399 was always going to be a long shot. Everyone (in particular cows & the media) have got in their heads that if it isn't $399 then it's going to "fail", which is ridiculous. For what Scorpio is, and what it's packing, $449 or $499 was always going to be more realistic. This is a premium console, that isn't for everyone.

LOL it will be 399 based on the tech MS mill take a short term loss

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#90 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

Because MS' E3 is tomorrow and Sony's is the following day?

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@Zero_epyon said:
@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

Because MS' E3 is tomorrow and Sony's is the following day?

I never mentioned any names yet you felt the need to respond, how interesting NOT :P

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#92  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@Addict187: It might very well be $399 for a base model... but who knows. But to say if it's not $399 its DOA is ridiculous.

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#93 Zero_epyon
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@i_p_daily said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

Because MS' E3 is tomorrow and Sony's is the following day?

I never mentioned any names yet you felt the need to respond, how interesting NOT :P

I'm really confused right now lol

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@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

They're nervous.

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@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

And the thread so far has actually been pretty civil with good discussion.

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#96  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@gordonfreeman said:
@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

They're nervous.

About what? they have all the biggest marketing deals, plenty of exclusives, their console has the most sales, and the most powerful console in the worl.....oh right now I getcha :P

@Chutebox said:
@i_p_daily said:

Interesting, the cows are more in here then the PS4 thread, I wonder why hmmmmm???

And the thread so far has actually been pretty civil with good discussion.

Expect that to change in about 18hrs lol.

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@metalslimenite said:

@NoirLamia777: You're in for a treat then. *cough* watch this:

Hey @ronvalencia how come PS4 Pro is more powerful than Project Scorpio?

World of Tanks is NOT native 4K on PS4 Pro while it's native 4k on Scorpio.

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@metalslimenite said:

Can't wait for Ron to ruin every e3 thread today with his nonsense! Yay!

Your post is already nonsense. You have converted this thread into personality war and has nothing about system wars.

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#100 eNT1TY
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Wonder how soon after official reveal tomorrow scorpio will be available for pre-order. Don't wanna miss out on 1st shipment. Hopefully its not a conservative allotment per shipment wave where the second wave of systems is still just fulfilling the remainder of pre-orders that missed out on the launch shipment. Still fully confident its gonna be $399 and gonna sell out for the entire quarter.