Odd-world Dev: Gap between PS4 and XB1 will never disappear

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#51 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3588 posts) -

@topgunmv said:

Enough with the 60fps. It will never be the standard on consoles (nor for the majority of people on pc).

That's a bold statement, 60FPS is pretty common on PC sometimes more,even If you have a mediocre GPU/Amazing GPU 60FPS and beyond is vey much the norm on PC.

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#52 Posted by navyguy21 (14879 posts) -

I dont think there was ever a question if the XB1 would match the PS4s hardware, that isnt going to happen.

Will the XB1 have 1080p/60fps? Of course, but PS4 will always do it better, faster, and with better graphics on most multiplats and exclusives.

Of course there will be a few XB1 exclusives that make you question how big the gap really is..........the fact is that there IS a gap.

Not as big as cows hope.........and not as small as lems hope. The difference will be as noticeable as it was last gen.

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#53 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@misterpmedia said:

Not entirely sure if that was even a logical reply... I haven't made claims about what's happening at E3, you did lol. You continually do actually, just wanted to know why this dev will be eating his words come E3...sorry I mean E3 2015 now. What happened at the 2014 E3 that didn't live up to expectations? Tell us oh wise Mystic B.

But jokes aside, tales from your ass then I take it :p. Gotcha.

So you don't know everything? LOL!! I said by 2015 there won't be any huge gap between the PS4 and XB1 in terms of performance. E3 2014 games will show why. I don't need a link. I worked in the business for like 12 yrs. Knowledge is power. I guess all the devs (Rebellion, Bethesda, Airtight Games) saying 1080p 30/60fps on XB1 will be no problem are wrong. lol!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekaKL218q_s

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#54 Edited by highking_kallor (594 posts) -

@navyguy21 said:

I dont think there was ever a question if the XB1 would match the PS4s hardware, that isnt going to happen.

Will the XB1 have 1080p/60fps? Of course, but PS4 will always do it better, faster, and with better graphics on most multiplats and exclusives.

Of course there will be a few XB1 exclusives that make you question how big the gap really is..........the fact is that there IS a gap.

Not as big as cows hope.........and not as small as lems hope. The difference will be as noticeable as it was last gen.

Bigger gap then last gen. Don’t be a delusional dreamer.

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#55 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (809 posts) -

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

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#56 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3588 posts) -

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

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#57 Edited by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@blackace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Not entirely sure if that was even a logical reply... I haven't made claims about what's happening at E3, you did lol. You continually do actually, just wanted to know why this dev will be eating his words come E3...sorry I mean E3 2015 now. What happened at the 2014 E3 that didn't live up to expectations? Tell us oh wise Mystic B.

But jokes aside, tales from your ass then I take it :p. Gotcha.

So you don't know everything? LOL!! I said by 2015 there won't be any huge gap between the PS4 and XB1 in terms of performance. E3 2014 games will show why. I don't need a link. I worked in the business for like 12 yrs. Knowledge is power. I guess all the devs (Rebellion, Bethesda, Airtight Games) saying 1080p 30/60fps on XB1 will be no problem are wrong. lol!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekaKL218q_s

So even more tales from your ass. I see. lol at worked in the business, seems like we have our own little faux-insider gamespot! ;) Also not really sure where you got me knowing everything from. Must be some internet persona thing you made up on the spot or something lol.

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#58 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

but the devkits!!! the directx12!!!! the esram!!!! THE CLOUD!!!!! (lol i lost track of all the excuses lems make at this point)

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#59 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

and he never will.

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#60 Edited by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

Guess most of the world would be happier being blind than having to looking at Xbone kek. There's also more games on PS4, now who's being blind 8)

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#61 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

and he never will.

I can answer that. Three (Peggle 2, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood & Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare). Kinect Sports Rivals will be out on 4/9/2014.

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#62 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (809 posts) -

@blackace said:

@Krelian-co said:

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

and he never will.

I can answer that. Three (Peggle 2, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood & Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare). Kinect Sports Rivals will be out on 4/9/2014.

Peggle 2 - Xbox One, Xbox 360

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood - Xbox One, Xbox 360, PC

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare - Xbox One, Xbox 360, and soon, PC

So the only exclusive that is releasing soon for the Xbox One, since launch, is Kinect Sports Rivals?

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#63 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@blackace said:

@Krelian-co said:

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

and he never will.

I can answer that. Three (Peggle 2, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood & Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare). Kinect Sports Rivals will be out on 4/9/2014.

Peggle 2 - Xbox One, Xbox 360

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood - Xbox One, Xbox 360, PC

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare - Xbox One, Xbox 360, and soon, PC

So the only exclusive that is releasing soon for the Xbox One, since launch, is Kinect Sports Rivals?

lol fuking owned, lems using multiplats as exclusives, nothing new, sad really.

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#64 Posted by Wickerman777 (2164 posts) -

What he said is common sense. X1 will improve because of software/driver improvements (And so will PS4) but PS4 will always be ahead of it in the graphics rendering department because it physically has more graphics silicon available to it.

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#65 Edited by bloodlust_101 (2764 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

but the devkits!!! the directx12!!!! the esram!!!! THE CLOUD!!!!! (lol i lost track of all the excuses lems make at this point)

DirectX 11.2
Tiled Resources
Stacked GPUs
CPU Overclock
Reduced CPU Overhead
Reduced Kinect Overhead
And the Gen just started a few short months ago...

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#66 Edited by tormentos (26778 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tyloss: There won't be any gap by the time E3 2015 rolls around. Has Just Add Water ever made any XBox games? Lets have a look shell we.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Add_Water_%28company%29

Release DateTitlesGenrePlatform(s)
2009Gravity CrashMultidirectional shooterPlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable
2011Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HDFirst-person/Third-personaction-adventurePlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita, Windows
2012Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee HDPlatformPlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita
2014Oddworld: New 'n' TastySide-scrolling, PlatformPlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita, PlayStation 4, Wii U, Windows, Mac, Linux
2014Gravity Crash Ultra[7]Multidirectional shooterPlayStation Vita

Well look at that. Not even one Xbox game ever made. Looks like a jelly 1st Party developer who has never worked on XBox 360 or Xbox One. Obviously this CEO at Just Add Water is clueless and biased for Sony. Trying to spread negative BS about the XBox One. Poor sap. He'll be crying after the E3 for those comments.

You know Oddworld Stranger for PS3 is a port of the original xbox version right.?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/oddworld-strangers-wrath

And you claim to be a manticore....lol

88 on Meta it was a great game which i owned for my xbox,so you are wrong.

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#67 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@blackace said:

@Krelian-co said:

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

How many Xbox One exclusives released after launch? You never reply to me x)

and he never will.

I can answer that. Three (Peggle 2, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood & Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare). Kinect Sports Rivals will be out on 4/9/2014.

Peggle 2 - Xbox One, Xbox 360

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood - Xbox One, Xbox 360, PC

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare - Xbox One, Xbox 360, and soon, PC

So the only exclusive that is releasing soon for the Xbox One, since launch, is Kinect Sports Rivals?

ouch lol the faux-insider will not be pleased.

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#68 Posted by tormentos (26778 posts) -
@WilliamRLBaker said:

I don't tend to listen to a dev that has shown them selves butt hurt continually and putting on the act of phil fish and others to drum up hype and sales.

Yeah we all know you only agree with developers who hype the xbox one to be the biggest things since sliced bread.

@blackace said:

Your crystal ball must be much larger then mine. You come on here thinking you know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. So you should already know everything about the E3. There's nothing I can tell you that you don't already know, right? lol!! Amazing this dev hasn't worked on any Xbox 360/Xbox One games. I don't think they know anything about the XB1.

What he need to know about the xbox one every one freaking know it,its specs and they are weak and show the whole story no matter what a 7790 will not beat a 7870 period that is a fact you can either admit it or live on denial.

@RR360DD said:

Cows still grasping for anything to help justify that blind PS4 purchase.

I guess all you can do it hype up small graphical differences when you have no games.

Actually the PS4 just and exclusive infamous when was the last time the xbox one got one of those,since Titanfall wasn't one and there is no xbox one exclusive that i know off until what.? Fall.?

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#69 Edited by tormentos (26778 posts) -

@blackace said:

So you don't know everything? LOL!! I said by 2015 there won't be any huge gap between the PS4 and XB1 in terms of performance. E3 2014 games will show why. I don't need a link. I worked in the business for like 12 yrs. Knowledge is power. I guess all the devs (Rebellion, Bethesda, Airtight Games) saying 1080p 30/60fps on XB1 will be no problem are wrong. lol!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekaKL218q_s

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#70 Posted by TheEroica (17539 posts) -

Do folks really give two shits about this stuff? I'm more concerned that every AAA game is starting to feel and play alike than I am about who will have the better indestinguishable graphics. I fully expect to be wowed by games on both consoles.

Bothers>Uncharted 2

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#71 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@TheEroica said:

Do folks really give two shits about this stuff? I'm more concerned that every AAA game is starting to feel and play alike than I am about who will have the better indestinguishable graphics. I fully expect to be wowed by games on both consoles.

Bothers>Uncharted 2

Brothers was terrible compared to uncharted 2. Interesting game play mechanics relying on both sticks but it was so short and the ending left a lot to be desired once the two dumb asses got tricked by spider girl.

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#72 Posted by tormentos (26778 posts) -
@blackace said:

I can answer that. Three (Peggle 2, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood & Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare). Kinect Sports Rivals will be out on 4/9/2014.

Plants vs zombies is on xbox 360 as well so is not exclusive,and max release in a few days for PC and 360 as well,so yeah no exclusive as well since Infamous SS is not coming to PS3 or Vita.

So kinect sports and who really freaking cares about that garbage.

You either have some poor knowledge about the games and console you talk or you are a sad biased lemming,you claim already here that just add water had not make a game for xbox ever which is a lie they did one and MS money hat them so they didn't do a PS2 version.

And you didn't even knew the PS3 could share PSN games..Your knowledge is weak.

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#73 Posted by TheEroica (17539 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4: No no, Brothers was the length of Brothers. A game that was intended to be what it was with no filler... Think of all the awful monotonous things they could've flooded Brothers with and instead they/he treated those lucky enough to play it with respect. In a day and age where a popular idea is beaten with a Money stick, it was nice to have a game that left me wanting more, never once overstaying it's welcome.

Uncharted is pop and fizzle. :P

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#74 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

@Heil68:

@Heil68 said:

PS4 has MORE COMPUTE units, and faster memory and a whole bunch of things, that would make that physically impossible to happen.

That happens when you deliver the world's most powerful video game system that has ever been created.

We are humbled SONY.

i think some PC's would like a word with you.

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#75 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@TheEroica said:

@ReadingRainbow4: No no, Brothers was the length of Brothers. A game that was intended to be what it was with no filler... Think of all the awful monotonous things they could've flooded Brothers with and instead they/he treated those lucky enough to play it with respect. In a day and age where a popular idea is beaten with a Money stick, it was nice to have a game that left me wanting more, never once overstaying it's welcome.

Uncharted is pop and fizzle. :P

Brothers had plenty of filler, for one thing those awful simplistic puzzles.

I did like how Brothers told it's story for the most part however.

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#76 Posted by noodlevixen (480 posts) -

WHO. CARES. I want to read about good games not the damn resolution. Seriously this "my game is prettier than your game" is getting out of hand. It's turning out to be one big d*ck measuring contest and it's simply not becoming of the gaming community.

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#77 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@noodlevixen said:

WHO. CARES. I want to read about good games not the damn resolution. Seriously this "my game is prettier than your game" is getting out of hand. It's turning out to be one big d*ck measuring contest and it's simply not becoming of the gaming community.

Yeah it really should be the one of the smallest things taking priority, but this always happens with launch-near launch games.

I really want to see what Japan has cooked up, I'm sure I won't see anything other than Final Fantasy at E3 tho, hopefully tokyo game show has something.

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#78 Edited by lundy86_4 (49107 posts) -

@noodlevixen said:

WHO. CARES. I want to read about good games not the damn resolution. Seriously this "my game is prettier than your game" is getting out of hand. It's turning out to be one big d*ck measuring contest and it's simply not becoming of the gaming community.

Welcome to SW... For the last 10 or so years. Why did you come here, if you don't enjoy it?

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#79 Posted by ConanTheStoner (17370 posts) -

Well yeah, obviously the gap isn't going to vanish, or even narrow too much. PS4 is the (console) hardware leader this gen, end of story.

That said, people really do need to chill with the 1080p@60fps nonsense because it's not here to last. Right now we're just seeing a bunch of glorified last gen titles running at high res and great performance. Same thing happened at the start of last gen. Even the gen before that didn't have much for cross-generational games, but it had games running at higher frame rates early on. Compare MGS2 to MGS3 on PS2... FFX to FFXII and so on.

Once developers start pushing for higher fidelity models, textures and lighting, more interaction and larger scale, we'll see sub-1080p games @30fps become more and more common. Sure PS4 will still maintain a noticeable edge, but that's about it.

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#80 Posted by noodlevixen (480 posts) -

@lundy86_4: I've been here since 2005 with a previous account so know very well what and how SW is. But this gen started off worse than ever between gaming fans. I have seen fanboyism at it's worse but most of it is tongue in cheek. Now I see all kind of shit slinging on this forum worse than ever before and people aren't joking.

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#81 Posted by TheEroica (17539 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4: the puzzles were simply an exercise in mastering the controls which were exquisite.. And thankfully, fresh... The fact that it's woven into some very climactic moments was the cherry on top.

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#82 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1238 posts) -

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#83 Edited by stereointegrity (11886 posts) -

@blackace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Not entirely sure if that was even a logical reply... I haven't made claims about what's happening at E3, you did lol. You continually do actually, just wanted to know why this dev will be eating his words come E3...sorry I mean E3 2015 now. What happened at the 2014 E3 that didn't live up to expectations? Tell us oh wise Mystic B.

But jokes aside, tales from your ass then I take it :p. Gotcha.

So you don't know everything? LOL!! I said by 2015 there won't be any huge gap between the PS4 and XB1 in terms of performance. E3 2014 games will show why. I don't need a link. I worked in the business for like 12 yrs. Knowledge is power. I guess all the devs (Rebellion, Bethesda, Airtight Games) saying 1080p 30/60fps on XB1 will be no problem are wrong. lol!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekaKL218q_s

U don't kbow shit about any industry

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#84 Posted by lundy86_4 (49107 posts) -

@noodlevixen said:

@lundy86_4: I've been here since 2005 with a previous account so know very well what and how SW is. But this gen started off worse than ever between gaming fans. I have seen fanboyism at it's worse but most of it is tongue in cheek. Now I see all kind of shit slinging on this forum worse than ever before and people aren't joking.

What was your previous account?

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#85 Posted by noodlevixen (480 posts) -

@lundy86_4: Dear god your bringing up a bygone era lol It was bloodtorment1 if I remember correctly. I didn't use the site for a short period of time and when I came back I realized I hated that account so due to glitchspots incompetence I had to start another one instead of just deleting the one I had and starting anew

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#86 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6976 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

@topgunmv said:

@Wasdie said:

@topgunmv said:

Enough with the 60fps. It will never be the standard on consoles (nor for the majority of people on pc).

"nor for the majority of people on PC"

That's incorrect. That is the standard on the PC. Just because some people with their hand-me-down laptops have to settle for less than 60fps, doesn't mean that's the standard.

I'd advise you google "majority" and think long and hard about what kind of pc the majority of people who fire up a game have.

I certainly can't run crysis 3 and metro last light at 60 fps, and my computer is well above average.

So now you're furthering the goal by limiting it to only the most graphically demanding latest games and then implying those who buy the games are going to pump the graphics to the max they can go regardless of the framerate.

The majority of PC gamers (not people who use their parents laptops for F2P games and Minecraft) are going to be sticking with 60fps even if that requires them to turn down the settings. They'll turn down settings or upgrade. This also only applies to the absolute most demanding games, not your average game.

Couldn't be more wrong. I'd almost prefer high 20s fps and ultra graphics than running 60 fps on low...

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#87 Posted by lundy86_4 (49107 posts) -

@noodlevixen: That actually sounds familiar... I don't remember many of the old usernames though... Apart from the bigger ones.

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#88 Posted by noodlevixen (480 posts) -

@lundy86_4: l used to post a hell of a lot on SW back then so you might've seen a post or two. The time before gamespot changed their layout etc and everybody left was when SW was at it's best. Cheers for having a non belligerent conversation on here. It's a rarity now.

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#89 Edited by hoosier7 (4166 posts) -

@Mozelleple112 said:

@Wasdie said:

@topgunmv said:

@Wasdie said:

"nor for the majority of people on PC"

That's incorrect. That is the standard on the PC. Just because some people with their hand-me-down laptops have to settle for less than 60fps, doesn't mean that's the standard.

I'd advise you google "majority" and think long and hard about what kind of pc the majority of people who fire up a game have.

I certainly can't run crysis 3 and metro last light at 60 fps, and my computer is well above average.

So now you're furthering the goal by limiting it to only the most graphically demanding latest games and then implying those who buy the games are going to pump the graphics to the max they can go regardless of the framerate.

The majority of PC gamers (not people who use their parents laptops for F2P games and Minecraft) are going to be sticking with 60fps even if that requires them to turn down the settings. They'll turn down settings or upgrade. This also only applies to the absolute most demanding games, not your average game.

Couldn't be more wrong. I'd almost prefer high 20s fps and ultra graphics than running 60 fps on low...

For anything competitive or reliant on latency then no chance. It might be ok in less intense or slower paced single player games but i wouldn't touch an RTS, FPS or any other kind of shooter, a racer etc unless it was around 60fps, especially online online game.

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#90 Posted by Midnightshade29 (5934 posts) -

@Gaming-Planet said:

We knew this from the time they were unveiled.

yet lemmings still refuse to accept it and some have even started or follow insane cults that spew out phrase words that never existed before like "Stacked chips" and stereo gpus...lol... Let get some dolby gpus and memory in here for my hifi esram system...lol

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#91 Posted by lundy86_4 (49107 posts) -

@noodlevixen said:

@lundy86_4: l used to post a hell of a lot on SW back then so you might've seen a post or two. The time before gamespot changed their layout etc and everybody left was when SW was at it's best. Cheers for having a non belligerent conversation on here. It's a rarity now.

Seriously. After the change, teh whole site seemed to drop (in terms of forums).

A cordial chat is always nice, beyond the new trolls who need to learn a few things :P

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#92 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

@navyguy21 said:

I dont think there was ever a question if the XB1 would match the PS4s hardware, that isnt going to happen.

Will the XB1 have 1080p/60fps? Of course, but PS4 will always do it better, faster, and with better graphics on most multiplats and exclusives.

Of course there will be a few XB1 exclusives that make you question how big the gap really is..........the fact is that there IS a gap.

Not as big as cows hope.........and not as small as lems hope. The difference will be as noticeable as it was last gen.

LOL nice try, the gap is definitely bigger than last gen.

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#93 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (3755 posts) -

Personally I would rather have 720p 60 fps on ultra settings locked frame rate. Than have 1080p 60 fps with meh settings and crazy frame rate drops. Who knows with amd mantle 1080p with good setting might be possible.

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#94 Posted by noodlevixen (480 posts) -

@lundy86_4: Yeah these new people have no idea how to conduct themselves. No class :p

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#95 Posted by navyguy21 (14879 posts) -

@Midnightshade29 said:

@Gaming-Planet said:

We knew this from the time they were unveiled.

yet lemmings still refuse to accept it and some have even started or follow insane cults that spew out phrase words that never existed before like "Stacked chips" and stereo gpus...lol... Let get some dolby gpus and memory in here for my hifi esram system...lol

Cows are just as bad though, especially last gen when they had the same arguments. Lets not pretend its just lemmings.

Besides, you dont really have to attack lemmings this gen since PS4 will always be in first place and have the better multiplats.

What will you argue about then?

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#96 Posted by navyguy21 (14879 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@navyguy21 said:

I dont think there was ever a question if the XB1 would match the PS4s hardware, that isnt going to happen.

Will the XB1 have 1080p/60fps? Of course, but PS4 will always do it better, faster, and with better graphics on most multiplats and exclusives.

Of course there will be a few XB1 exclusives that make you question how big the gap really is..........the fact is that there IS a gap.

Not as big as cows hope.........and not as small as lems hope. The difference will be as noticeable as it was last gen.

LOL nice try, the gap is definitely bigger than last gen.

lol, said all of that and thats what you chose to respond to?

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#97 Edited by Murderstyle75 (4412 posts) -

@blackace:

Why is it that Lemmings are so incredibly stupid posting wiki links with absolutely no understanding of the roots of the Xbox platform?

Back when you were either in diapers or was a PS2 cow, Lorne Lanning made Munches Oddysee under Oddworld Inhabitants as an Xbox exclusive published by Microsoft Game Studios. It was an original launch title and I bought this game on day 1. In 2005, Strangers Wraith was made as an Xbox exclusive as well.

In 2010, JAW got ahold of Lanning with interest in resurrecting the series. Strangers Wraith HD remake was in development for the 360 but never released because it was priced at $14.99 on Steam and PSN and M$ refused to let the game on their marketplace for less then $20 because it was over 2GB. JAW wasn't going to raise the price for everybody just because lems don't mind being raped so the XBLA version never happened.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Does Microsofts target consumer know anything about gaming or their own company even from anything besides Wikipedia? No wonder why it was so easy to sell you fools the Xbox One. This guy who you claim has never made an Xbox title was one if the very first Xbox developers.

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#98 Edited by Shewgenja (19964 posts) -

It's only fitting that the fiasco that is the XBone comes full circle. About a year ago, MS decided to head in a different direction than gamers. They can talk all the talk they can possibly talk about being about games now, but that's irrespective of the reality that the machine simply isn't designed with that purpose.

Of course the usual suspect Lems come into this thread like moths to a bug zapper to run their same tired as **** line about driver updates/DX12/Secret Sauce because the cold honest truth of the matter is that it's these same hand full of soppy wank rags that decided to ignore MS when they were talking about becoming a general entertainment brand and not targeting high end gaming performance. Here and here you have it straight from the dragon's mouth that this new XBox is not designed or built with the same purpose in mind that the PS4 is.

But the same song and dance continues irrespective of reality. For a while there, it seemed like I was getting through to the Lems who were accepting that they were getting a general entertainment console bundled with a voice and gesture control mechanism. Sadly, that didn't last long and we have the same circle of inane bullshit coming from the Lems ad nauseum. The kiddy gloves are off, now. As PS4 sales continue to outpace the XBone, developers are not going to have as much incentive to give XBone the benefit of the doubt. This isn't the end of the argument, because some people just won't drop the subject.

This is only the beginning. Very soon, the games will do all the talking and developer interviews will only be confirming the painfully obvious to everyone but these La-La Land posting Lems. The PS4 isn't just the better machine. It is the much better machine. Here's a little bombshell for you.. XBone won't do VR. It honestly doesn't have the resources available to be in the same league as Morpheus. That's the word behind the curtain these days. If they buckle under pressure and press forward with their VR, expect it to look like ass.

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#99 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@navyguy21 said:

@Midnightshade29 said:

@Gaming-Planet said:

We knew this from the time they were unveiled.

yet lemmings still refuse to accept it and some have even started or follow insane cults that spew out phrase words that never existed before like "Stacked chips" and stereo gpus...lol... Let get some dolby gpus and memory in here for my hifi esram system...lol

Cows are just as bad though, especially last gen when they had the same arguments. Lets not pretend its just lemmings.

Besides, you dont really have to attack lemmings this gen since PS4 will always be in first place and have the better multiplats.

What will you argue about then?

wouldn't that mean lems would know better? You'd think right? heh.

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#100 Posted by Sollet (8075 posts) -

Hah! Everything will change once the true powers of the Xbox One is unleashed.

Hidden GPU - Check
DirectX 12 - Check
Azure - Check
New head of xbox - Check

MS had this planned all along no matter what fanboys might think or say.
Making Sony and the world believe they had shown the real specs of the one.

GG Sony and haters! Just wait!