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#1  Edited By DrSerigala
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Can Nvidia just wait after the Next Gen Consoles release before they announce the RTX 3000 series. (They even haven't announce the price yet!!!! LMAO)

They just too cruel, Next Gen Consoles hype fell down from hill to ZONK

With the announcement of RTX 3000 series, Next Gen console become irrelevant faster than we expected.

RTX 3070 with whooping 20 TFLOPS beating MS advertisement for Series X 12 TFLOPS.

and Nvidia just announce RTX I/O partenership with microsoft void the SONY statement about I/O architecture that only exist on Console.

Remember just a few days ago cow told us that PC cant run PS5 exclusives because unique I/O architecture.

It just a matter of time that RTX 3060 will announce with more power than series X and completely destroy PS5 with 300 dollar or even less.

Seriously though partnership with AMD is consoles maker big mistakes

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#2 deactivated-5f58f7bf5ecf3
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Yeah, but, what about console-only gamers that don't care about PC?

I'm not one of them, just saying.

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Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

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#4 Juub1990
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Consoles are still a great value proposition with nice features. I'm sure the consolites will be more than happy with their boxes.

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#5 the_bi99man
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@NathanDrakeSwag: factually incorrect. Stay salty, console loser.

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#6 Pedro
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You are so correct. I was told that the only reason people game on consoles are exclusives and that they prefer to play on PCs with higher specs. Now that Sony is putting their games on PC, there is no need for consoles. Unless the folks that made that claim are going to backpedal now. 😂

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#7 DrSerigala
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

Tell that to 100+ millions user on Steam, hundreds million of PC gamers on China and Asia, Blizzard-only gamers, etc

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#8 DrSerigala
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@subspecies_ii said:

Yeah, but, what about console-only gamers that don't care about PC?

I'm not one of them, just saying.

Yeah, i know but remember when those console-only gamer talk about how irrelevant PC when the next gen consoles release. LMAO

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@Juub1990 said:

Consoles are still a great value proposition with nice features. I'm sure the consolites will be more than happy with their boxes.

Yea, doubt it's going to have any large effect for average joe.

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@drserigala said:
@subspecies_ii said:

Yeah, but, what about console-only gamers that don't care about PC?

I'm not one of them, just saying.

Yeah, i know but remember when those console-only gamer talk about how irrelevant PC when the next gen consoles release. LMAO

Well that was just nonsense, lol. PC always wins out in the end in the power department.

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@drserigala said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

Tell that to 100+ millions user on Steam, hundreds million of PC gamers on China and Asia, Blizzard-only gamers, etc

A communist country loves PC? Not exactly something to brag about.

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#12  Edited By DrSerigala
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@Juub1990 said:

Consoles are still a great value proposition with nice features. I'm sure the consolites will be more than happy with their boxes.

I know they will value the plastic BOX with love and carefully making boastful thread about list of their exclusive games (which eventually will come to PC sooner or later, LOL)

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#13 ConanTheStoner  Online
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Yeah, been a savage day for the SW nonsense and an exciting day for a lot of PC gamers.

But outside the vocal minority of obviously shaken console fanboys, doubt most console gamers really care.

Not like their new consoles are gonna be all that bad anyways.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@drserigala said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

Tell that to 100+ millions user on Steam, hundreds million of PC gamers on China and Asia, Blizzard-only gamers, etc

A communist country loves PC? Not exactly something to brag about.

Only Communism by name their more capitalist than the US bud

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#15 SolidGame_basic
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lol, another PC insecurity thread.

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#16  Edited By DrSerigala
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@drserigala said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

Tell that to 100+ millions user on Steam, hundreds million of PC gamers on China and Asia, Blizzard-only gamers, etc

A communist country loves PC? Not exactly something to brag about.

ROFL, are we back to Cold-War Era?

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#17 Pedro
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@ConanTheStoner said:

doubt most console gamers really care.

That true for everything on this board but that doesn't mean we don't make fun of the ones who care. 😈

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#18 DrSerigala
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@SolidGame_basic said:

lol, another PC insecurity thread.

Say as you wish, 4K 144Hz FPS Full RT DLS3.0 Incoming. LOL

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#19 NathanDrakeSwag
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@SolidGame_basic said:

lol, another PC insecurity thread.

There's been a lot of those today. They're trying to reassure themselves.

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@Pedro said:

That true for everything on this board but that doesn't mean we don't make fun of the ones who care. 😈

Oh, well of course lol. Always a good time.

But yeah, tbh bet I could call some of my console gaming buds, ask them what they think of the 3090 and they'd be like "the wut?" *goes back to playing Warzone*

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Yeah and the best part is that with the GPU's costing this much, I imagine it gives sony and MS an excuse to jack up the prices of the consoles.

"700 dollars for a console? Still cheaper than PC" the chumps will say. If only they spent 300 more dollars they could get 100x the product.

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@drserigala said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Most people have no interest in playing games on personal computers.

Tell that to 100+ millions user on Steam, hundreds million of PC gamers on China and Asia, Blizzard-only gamers, etc

A communist country loves PC? Not exactly something to brag about.

Spin, baby, spin!

You just did the equivalent of going "Yeah, well...ummmm...you're ugly" in the middle of a rational debate.

Therefore you lose. Just like consoles.

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#22 hardwenzen
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Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

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#23 JasonOfA36
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Banter aside, the consoles will always win with the price-to-performance bracket. I doubt most console users would care about this. I'm pretty excited with the 3000 series tho, ngl. Probably won't be a huge upgrade for me, going from a 2070S to a 3080.

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#24  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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Uhh what's so funny? The msrp of the nvidia cards is at $1000 for their flagship, but at the store you won't find it less than $2000. As for their 3090, you won't find it in stores for less than $4000.

If you're willing to spend a few million, you can get a gpu that makes the 3090 look like a piece of shite.

The consoles will sell for $600 total, and have a card on the same level as the 2080ti.

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#25  Edited By Fairmonkey
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Consoles are already an overpriced, weak POS before the gen even started LMAO. This is going to be a long, disappointing gen for peasants

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#26 X_CAPCOM_X
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@ConanTheStoner: new consoles being "bad," or rather weak, is a perspective issue. From the perspective of someone who has moved to gaming more on PC, yeah they will be weak as f out of the gate. From the average consumers perspective (some dedicated gamers included), they are great value propositions, especially for their exclusive games.

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#27 Fairmonkey
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@subspecies_ii: console gamers can stop spouting that $2000 pc argument bullshit

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I'm pretty sure more people use or play on computers than all consoles combined. Pc tech is the flagship for video game tech and innovation

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@blaznwiipspman1: the 3060 which is more powerful than the Xbox series X will likely be $300. Console gamers just got taken out back and put down like old yeller

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#30  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@Fairmonkey: You're going to find a CPU, motherboard, ram, power supply, ssd, case, OS (legally) and a kbm all for $200? You guys talk about gpus like they are an entire machine.

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#31  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@NathanDrakeSwag: CPU is like $100 or so for good one, motherboard $60, good ram $60, power supply $60, ssd $50, case $50, OS u can get cheap, keyboard and mouse $50. U can build a good enough PC for around $500 or 600 from scratch and it will obliterate consoles in terms of freedom, possibilities, and performance. Don't have to pay for online either and pay less for games so PC is a better value in the long run. PC wins, sorry

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#32  Edited By DrSerigala
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@Fairmonkey: You're going to find a CPU, motherboard, ram, power supply, ssd, case, OS (legally) and a kbm all for $200? You guys talk about gpus like they are an entire machine.

LOL, classic console guy argument. why make it cheap when you can go big (and better of course)

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah, been a savage day for the SW nonsense and an exciting day for a lot of PC gamers.

But outside the vocal minority of obviously shaken console fanboys, doubt most console gamers really care.

Not like their new consoles are gonna be all that bad anyways.

Undoubtedly most don't. I think most consolites are very happy with their gaming choices.

As for the news, this shakes up my PC research. I still haven't bought my PC, and I've waited so long that better stuff is already coming out, so I have to start the research all over again. Sheesh.

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#34  Edited By DrSerigala
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@hardwenzen said:

Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

Wow, this some high shit forecast from a Cow. Can you predict the future? Are you by chance Silicon Valley Insider?

RDNA 2 is not even release and already talk about RDNA 3. LMAO

And you can upgrade from RDNA2 to RDNA3 with a PATCH??? LOL

AMD should stop making GPU, they should start sell the PATCH. ROFL

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Sorry, I couldn't help myself after reading the thread title.

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@Fairmonkey: Did you forget this is meant to be a build with a near 2080ti equivalent GPU? Enjoy bottlenecking and having the cheap power supply crap out. A $60 motherboard? Lmao. And a $50 SSD will be garbage compared to what these consoles have. Enjoy your 250gb. Can't even store an OS + Warzone on that.

Just face it, if you want parts actually worthy of pairing with a 3060 you're still going to be spending over a grand. There's no way around it bud. Will it outperform these consoles? Absolutely. Is it still at least twice as much? Absolutely.

And the cheaper games thing as a myth. You can get physical console games dirt cheap. Don't be dumb enough to buy overpriced digital games on console.

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@subspecies_ii:

Ha, I'd imagine most of what you had picked out should still be just fine. Always good to check of course, but not like the newer GPUs should throw a wrench in your plans.

If anything, it's better that you waited though. These new GPUs are gonna be sick and can future proof you for a good while. Especially good since you're all about the VR.

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@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:

Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

Wow, this some high shit forecast from a Cow. Can you predict the future? Are you by chance Silicon Valley Insider?

RDNA 2 is not even release and already talk about RDNA 3. LMAO

And you can upgrade from RDNA2 to RDNA3 with a PATCH??? LOL

AMD should stop making GPU, they should start sell the PATCH. ROFL

You don't know what you're talking about. Ending your sentences with lmao and rofl in caps makes you look like a burger flipper from Nvidia.

Cerny takes care of us, Sony fans. Nobody takes care of pc gamers, and there's a reason for that.

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#39 BenjaminBanklin
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Did console gamers really think they were going to be top dog in hardware? The entire point of PC is to have modular components so you can customize it to your liking. It's going to be superior to consoles in most instances. Naturally, consoles are going to get BTFO because that's kind of the entire point being that PC s in their nature are upgradeable.

Consoles still have their purposes, like being a cheap easy box for the masses. And the platform holders that make them to provide games for their customers.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@subspecies_ii:

Ha, I'd imagine most of what you had picked out should still be just fine. Always good to check of course, but not like the newer GPUs should throw a wrench in your plans.

If anything, it's better that you waited though. These new GPUs are gonna be sick and can future proof you for a good while. Especially good since you're all about the VR.

You're probably right. My problem is I can fall into being a perfectionist at times, and planning a PC build, I've found, really brings out that aspect of me, lol. I've just gotta stick with a build and go for it.

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#41 dxmcat
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@hardwenzen: Yea, cause they take care of themselves, and dont need someone to spoonfed marketing dogshit to em.

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#42 hardwenzen
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@dxmcat said:

@hardwenzen: Yea, cause they take care of themselves, and dont need someone to spoonfed marketing dogshit to em.

Nice opinion there, but you're wrong.

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#43 DrSerigala
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@hardwenzen said:
@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:

Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

Wow, this some high shit forecast from a Cow. Can you predict the future? Are you by chance Silicon Valley Insider?

RDNA 2 is not even release and already talk about RDNA 3. LMAO

And you can upgrade from RDNA2 to RDNA3 with a PATCH??? LOL

AMD should stop making GPU, they should start sell the PATCH. ROFL

You don't know what you're talking about. Ending your sentences with lmao and rofl in caps makes you look like a burger flipper from Nvidia.

Cerny takes care of us, Sony fans. Nobody takes care of pc gamers, and there's a reason for that.

Do papa Cerny promise you to take care cows forever ever eternity?

Big corporate only care about profit not about some fanboy tribal shit.

LMAO. ROFL. LOL

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#44 hardwenzen
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@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:
@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:

Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

Wow, this some high shit forecast from a Cow. Can you predict the future? Are you by chance Silicon Valley Insider?

RDNA 2 is not even release and already talk about RDNA 3. LMAO

And you can upgrade from RDNA2 to RDNA3 with a PATCH??? LOL

AMD should stop making GPU, they should start sell the PATCH. ROFL

You don't know what you're talking about. Ending your sentences with lmao and rofl in caps makes you look like a burger flipper from Nvidia.

Cerny takes care of us, Sony fans. Nobody takes care of pc gamers, and there's a reason for that.

Do papa Cerny promise you to take care cows forever ever eternity?

Big corporate only care about profit not about some fanboy tribal shit.

LMAO. ROFL. LOL

If they cared for nothing else but profit, they wouldn't have invested so much money and manpower into their SSD and hide RDNA3.0 features deep down inside the console. Think about it.

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#45 DrSerigala
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@hardwenzen said:
@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:
@drserigala said:
@hardwenzen said:

Nice bait, TC.

The XSX might be dead on arrival because its a simple 12tflops machine, which is not powerful anymore. But you forget about the PS5. Have you heard of those RDNA3 rumors? You most likely did. So what if the PS5 sends a patch the unlocks RDNA3 years before its available on PC? What will be your answer to that, buddy? It was never about the tflops, but how use them, and i can assure you that Cerny's team is more knowledgeable than those burger flipping workers at Nvidia.

Wow, this some high shit forecast from a Cow. Can you predict the future? Are you by chance Silicon Valley Insider?

RDNA 2 is not even release and already talk about RDNA 3. LMAO

And you can upgrade from RDNA2 to RDNA3 with a PATCH??? LOL

AMD should stop making GPU, they should start sell the PATCH. ROFL

You don't know what you're talking about. Ending your sentences with lmao and rofl in caps makes you look like a burger flipper from Nvidia.

Cerny takes care of us, Sony fans. Nobody takes care of pc gamers, and there's a reason for that.

Do papa Cerny promise you to take care cows forever ever eternity?

Big corporate only care about profit not about some fanboy tribal shit.

LMAO. ROFL. LOL

If they cared for nothing else but profit, they wouldn't have invested so much money and manpower into their SSD and hide RDNA3.0 features deep down inside the console. Think about it.

Why?because they want to sell you a console. ROFL

P.s: I will patiently waiting PS5 GPU upgrade from RDNA2 to RDN3 with a PATCH.

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@hardwenzen: says the dog eating out of the bowl.

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@dxmcat: @drserigala: He's joking around, boys.

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#48  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@NathanDrakeSwag: I can build one definitely for less than a grand and I can get games cheap with pc keys or pirating. Games are cheaper, can look and run better, and have mod support which is better. I can get parts that cheap during black friday or cyber monday

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#49  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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I'm dedicated to PC gaming and even I know for a fact not every gamer is into PC, that's okay but what I hate seeing is console gamers trying to act like they own the place when the fact they do not much less PC isn't trying to take over console realm. I can tell you now I'm hype as hell on the RTX 3070 and very very less for PS5...but me picking up PS5 is really for exclusive games.

PC & Consoles will always have their place.

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#50  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@Fairmonkey: Did you forget this is meant to be a build with a near 2080ti equivalent GPU? Enjoy bottlenecking and having the cheap power supply crap out. A $60 motherboard? Lmao. And a $50 SSD will be garbage compared to what these consoles have. Enjoy your 250gb. Can't even store an OS + Warzone on that.

Just face it, if you want parts actually worthy of pairing with a 3060 you're still going to be spending over a grand. There's no way around it bud. Will it outperform these consoles? Absolutely. Is it still at least twice as much? Absolutely.

And the cheaper games thing as a myth. You can get physical console games dirt cheap. Don't be dumb enough to buy overpriced digital games on console.

Except that the Xbox Series X is only near the RTX 2080 not even the super version. A Ryzen 3600X for $200 should be perfectly fine for a RTX 3060. It should be $150 at least by the time the RTX 3060 and Zen 3 come out especially on Black Friday/Cyber Monday. $60 for a PSU is perfectly fine. PSUs in that price range have thousands of 4.5 star ratings. For $60 you can get a good 600watt PSU and it will be more than enough for a RTX 3060 since a RTX 3070 only has a TDP of 220w. A $60 motherboard is fine it just depends on how many ports, what type of ports and features you want built in to your motherboard. You won't get built in bluetooth and wifi for $60 though. You can get one for $90 with wifi built in. You can get a 500GB PCIE 3.0 NVME drive with 2,400 Read/Write speed for $60, $100 if you want 1TB.

You get actual free games on PC unlike consoles where you pay a subscription for online multiplayer.