NVIDIA DLSS 2.0 is out and it's glorious, RIP next-gen consoles 2020-2019

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#1  Edited By Juub1990
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The game LOOKS and mostly importantly RUNS better with DLSS than native image. Either NVIDIA sacrificed thousands of virgins to the graphics gods or their witch doctors found the secrets to the fabrics of reality.

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#2 R4gn4r0k  Online
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Thanks to DLSS I can get a mid end RTX card (3XXX series) and not pay ludicrous prices for a high end one.

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So called master race been losing sleep over XBSX,any comfort will do

HAH

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@Juub1990: PC master race's machine learning pixel reconstruction. LOL

RTX/DXR needs machine learning denoise pass, hence machine learning is also inherent in RDNA 2 hardware

From https://devblogs.nvidia.com/path-tracing-quake-ii/

Anyway, I'm waiting for RTX 3080 Ti.

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@bluestars: Everything is well here. How are you games running on your Series X good sir?

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#6 Juub1990
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@ronvalencia: Can’t you read? Don’t quote me you biased-ass shill.

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@Juub1990: You can't handle the truth.

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#8 Vaeh
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lol consoles. Stuff like DLSS is the future.

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I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

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@davillain-: I'm wondering if DLSS causes blurring, like other upscaling techniques.

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#11 Juub1990
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@R4gn4r0k: Not anymore. It looks more crisp than native res in Control. DLSS 2.0 is dope.

@davillain-: Plays great now and RTX is viable.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@davillain-: I'm wondering if DLSS causes blurring, like other upscaling techniques.

I finish the game late September, I did use DLSS but I barely experience the blurr but nothing to distracting. I'll report back later when I reinstall the game.

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@davillain- said:

I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

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Sorry, off topic but... Hey you Pee Salty Seas lol I kid.

My laptop is older than dirt and thinking of buying a new one for work at home.

What do you think of the following for about 8 bills out the door? Thanks in advance...

Lenovo IdeaPad L340 17.3 Gaming Laptop i7-9750H 8GB RAM 512GB SSD GTX 1650 4GB

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Release Year2019
ColorBlack
Screen Size17.3 in
TypeNotebook/Laptop
Storage TypeSSD (Solid State Drive)
ProcessorIntel Core i7 9th Gen.
Operating SystemWindows 10
Maximum Resolution1920 x 1080
RAM Size8 GB
SSD Capacity512 GB
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@Juub1990 said:
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The game LOOKS and mostly importantly RUNS better with DLSS than native image. Either NVIDIA sacrificed thousands of virgins to the graphics gods or their witch doctors found the secrets to the fabrics of reality.

Been out of PC gaming for a minute, will this help out my 980 TI?

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@Juub1990 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Not anymore. It looks more crisp than native res in Control. DLSS 2.0 is dope.

@davillain-: Plays great now and RTX is viable.

Even in motion?

Something like TAA for example looks great in a still picture, but it's horrible in motion.

If so than DLSS 2.0 could be a god send. Rendering games at 4K is really stressing on the hardware.

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#17  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Good gollys grating' a bit sharper.

We finally won.

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#18 R4gn4r0k  Online
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@SecretPolice: If you are looking for a solid gaming laptop, I would choose the Lenovo Legion Y540

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@R4gn4r0k:

Thanks, I'm not really buying it for gaming but figured if I'm going to buy a new laptop for work at home and since I still play games I may as well get something like a gaming laptop anyway. lol

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@n64dd:

@n64dd said:
@Juub1990 said:

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The game LOOKS and mostly importantly RUNS better with DLSS than native image. Either NVIDIA sacrificed thousands of virgins to the graphics gods or their witch doctors found the secrets to the fabrics of reality.

Been out of PC gaming for a minute, will this help out my 980 TI?

Nope. Read https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/news/nvidia-dlss-your-questions-answered/

For NVIDIA GPUs, DLSS feature needs RTX Tensor cores.

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#21 Juub1990
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@uninspiredcup said:

Good gollys grating' a bit sharper.

We finally won.

The performance is better. That's where the true win is.

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#22  Edited By Bluestars
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@Juub1990:

Love my Xbox one x

4k,HDR,and games like RDR2 (called pristine by experts at digital foundry) and gamepass ,uhd player and kodi app for movies and live sport

Yea I’m fine with all that for a machine you can buy for £200

You didn’t just shoot yourself in the foot,you blew your own f#%king leg off

HAH

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DLSS 2 is intelligent checkered boarding. I thought that was bad according to PC gamers. Now its good? 🤣

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@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

Thanks, I'm not really buying it for gaming but figured if I'm going to buy a new laptop for work at home and since I still play games I may as well get something like a gaming laptop anyway. lol

The best work laptop imho is the 15" Surface 3 laptop. It's just made to be an excellent laptop that's easy to work on.

But 17" is great if you don't want to hook up an external screen, say for gaming, and if you are going work long hours behind the laptop screen.

I'd advise you to open up a new thread about the L340 if you are interested over on https://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/on the gamespot forums :)

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Wow that is some incredible up stick in frames,it moves the 2060 from unplayable to playable.

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@R4gn4r0k:

Thanks a bunch my friend. I'm at the moment on the fence whether I should buy now as IMO, after giving it more thought, I don't see this work from home lasting very long (I'm now still working out of the company office) and rather than waste peoples time, until I'm sure I'm buying I'll sit tight for now but thanks again for your thoughtful input. :)

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@bluestars said:

@Juub1990:

Love my Xbox one x

4k,HDR,and games like RDR2 (called pristine by experts at digital foundry) and gamepass ,uhd player and kodi app for movies and live sport

Yea I’m fine with all that for a machine you can buy for £200

You didn’t just shoot yourself in the foot,you blew your own f#%king leg off

HAH

That's cool, how are games running on your series X though?

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@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

Thanks a bunch my friend. I'm at the moment on the fence whether I should buy now as IMO, after giving it more thought, I don't see this work from home lasting very long (I'm now still working out of the company office) and rather than waste peoples time, until I'm sure I'm buying I'll sit tight for now but thanks again for your thoughtful input. :)

Always a pleasure, dude!

Yeah I'm in this weird situation too. My work still requires me to come to the office, and there aren't a lot of people left over here. but still keeping 1 and a half meters of distance is pretty much impossible. And I'd feel a lot safer working from home.

If you do decide to work from home, tell them you'll need a Lenovo Legion, and nothing less ;)

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@ronvalencia said:
@davillain- said:

I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

You brought nothing of value to the discussion.

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#30  Edited By ronvalencia
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@fedor said:
@ronvalencia said:

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

You brought nothing of value to the discussion.

You brought zero value to the discussion. This is system wars, NOT limited to PC only topics.

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#31  Edited By Bluestars
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@fedor:

About the same as the first time I was asked,but I’d thought I’d share what my actual gaming machine’s capabilities.

Stupid question gets asked twice,Thick as pig shit HAH,ask me when it’s out and I’ll tell you

Meanwhile another hermit(op) posts a thread about next gen consoles

#insecurities

Another loss kid HAH,but keep the stupid questions coming,I’m bored on lockdown

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#32 Fedor
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@bluestars: That reads like a 12yo wrote it.

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#33 Fedor
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@ronvalencia said:
@fedor said:
@ronvalencia said:

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

You brought nothing of value to the discussion.

You brought zero value to the discussion. This is system wars, NOT limited to PC only topics.

I didn't say this isn't SW, I said you said nothing of value, which is true.

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@ronvalencia said:
@davillain- said:

I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

how long will it take you to find an insult to copy-paste?

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Meh they should have done this in the beginning. Imo, it looks like they've just use DLSS with Nvidia sharpness filter. When I used the original DLSS I always used the sharpness filter to reduce/get rid of the blur.

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#36 DrLostRib
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so you'd have to wait for this to come on a per game basis?

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#37 PC_Rocks
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Was bound to happen, only a matter of time. ML algorithms need huge amounts of data and time to improve accuracy. One thing to know if a model is trained per game or or universal. If it's per game then you will be waiting a long time to see results like these.

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Holy balls

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@davillain- said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

@davillain-: I'm wondering if DLSS causes blurring, like other upscaling techniques.

I finish the game late September, I did use DLSS but I barely experience the blurr but nothing to distracting. I'll report back later when I reinstall the game.

It definitely had some blur, but it improved framerate by like 40% and it still looked unreal with ray tracing. Going to try this update in a bit. They need to update Metro Exodus, because that badly needs a performance boost and fire looked like garbage with DLSS on before.

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#40 Dagubot
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This looks awesome but this is only coming out to certain games? Will this work for 1440p as well? I know DLSS 1.0 only worked on 4K displays.

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@Pedro said:

DLSS 2 is intelligent checkered boarding. I thought that was bad according to PC gamers. Now its good? 🤣

If it gives results on par or better than native res along with a performance improvement, who cares?

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This reminds me, I need t o finish Control.

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#43  Edited By ronvalencia
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@drlostrib said:
@ronvalencia said:
@davillain- said:

I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

how long will it take you to find an insult to copy-paste?

You're useless at gaming hardware debate. noob.

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@ronvalencia said:
@drlostrib said:
@ronvalencia said:
@davillain- said:

I'll be replaying Control very soon cause it's still my #1 game of 2019 and my RTX 2070 can run this game in high settings. I'll see what the fuss is about DLSS 2.0.

By the way Juub, you know Ron is gonna drive you crazy over this. Get ready....oh never mind.

Juub called me "biased-ass shill" and Juub started the personal attacks on me. Should I retaliate (I'm holding back)?

Juub is not actually addressing game hardware debate.

how long will it take you to find an insult to copy-paste?

You're useless at gaming hardware debate. noob.

it took you 7 hours to copy paste that

wow

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#45  Edited By ronvalencia
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@drlostrib said:
@ronvalencia said:
@drlostrib said:

how long will it take you to find an insult to copy-paste?

You're useless at gaming hardware debate. noob.

it took you 7 hours to copy paste that

wow

Unlike you, I was restraint and focusing on gaming hardware. You're useless at gaming hardware. You're a noob.

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#46 DrLostRib
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@ronvalencia said:
@drlostrib said:
@ronvalencia said:

You're useless at gaming hardware debate. noob.

it took you 7 hours to copy paste that

wow

Unlike you, I was restraint and focusing on gaming hardware. You're useless at gaming hardware. You're a noob.

at least i know how fans work

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Sorry for a dumb question but is DLS 2.0 in the new Nvidia driver or an update in the game its self?

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#48  Edited By BassMan
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@chriscoolguy said:

Sorry for a dumb question but is DLS 2.0 in the new Nvidia driver or an update in the game its self?

The latest drivers will always have the latest version of Nvidia tech, but the games have to be updated to support it as well. So, old games that used DLSS before need to be patched in order to take advantage of DLSS 2.0. However, they will still work with the older and inferior version of DLSS if they do not receive a patch.

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@drlostrib said:
@ronvalencia said:

Unlike you, I was restraint and focusing on gaming hardware. You're useless at gaming hardware. You're a noob.

at least i know how fans work

at least I'm not science denier.

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#50 jeezers
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Does this do anything for current RTX cardslike 2060 2070 2080?