NPD prediction thread (update: numbers are in!!)

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#1 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

ok gentlemen make your predictions, npd results will be release in a few hours.

i think ps4 will have sold more than x1 through out 2013. ps4 at 2.5m and x1 at 2.1m

dont get it twisted lems the only reason its even close it because ps4 are not readily available like x1 is

wii u - who cares, its dead

rules - only those that make predictions can serve said ownage.

here are the numbers for 2013 for euro countries, maybe this will help u when making prediction because m$ claims to have sold 3m and sony 4.2m

uk: ps4- 530k, x1- 364k

germany: ps4-250k, x1-100k

spain: ps4-157k, x1-35k

numbers released at 6:30pm est

*update: Xbox One and Xbox 360 were the top selling consoles for each generation in the US in December. 908k (Xbox One) and 643k (Xbox 360).

"According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation 4 remains the cumulative leader for next gen console sales in the US since the launch on November 15," said Sony's senior director of corporate communications, Dan Race.

ps4 sold an estimated 865k in dec

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/445719/npd-xbox-one-tops-us-hardware-sales-in-december/

3DS, the best selling system of 2013--not just December

"Hardware sales of the Wii U were also positive with December 2013 marking its highest month for unit sales month so far," NPD analyst Liam Callahan noted. Guess having great games does sell hardware, huh?

wiiu sold an estimated 400k

http://www.shacknews.com/article/826...-3ds-comes-out

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#2 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

come on lems, be brave. face the music

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#4 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

TC, I'll laugh so much at this thread if that backfires.

the only people who can claim ownage is those who make predictions. if they are not brave enough to make one their ownage is worthless

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#5 Edited by kuu2 (9232 posts) -

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

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#6 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

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#9 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Desmonic said:

TC, I'll laugh so much at this thread if that backfires.

the only people who can claim ownage is those who make predictions. if they are not brave enough to make one their ownage is worthless

Ownage and laughing at backfiring threads are two very different things ;) IF it happens of course. I've even heard some buzz around the web that the WiiU performed great during December. Time will tell I suppose.

oh ok i see. in that case yes everyone can go ahead and laugh at me if it backfires but it wont. sony always delivers. wiiu joking aside will have its best month of the year.

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#10 Edited by blackace (23506 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

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#11 Edited by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

Me too

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#12 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

^^^example of lem always talking big game but not backing it up hahahahhaha wats the matter blackace, no black friday this month? hahahaha 'bu-bu-bu- black friday!!!' haha that was quite epic

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#13 Edited by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

Yeah, same here. For the of December I believe the One outsold the PS4 here in the states. If I'm wrong, meh, lol. 3 and 4.2 million consoles strong means both had a great launch.

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#14 Posted by blackace (23506 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

^^^example of lem always talking big game but not backing it up hahahahhaha wats the matter blackace, no black friday this month? hahahaha 'bu-bu-bu- black friday!!!' haha that was quite epic

What!?!?! Both consoles sold 2+ million during Black Friday. nothing wrong with that. Yes it was EPIC. Several sales records were broken that week.

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#15 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@kuu2 said:

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

Yeah, same here. For the of December I believe the One outsold the PS4 here in the states. If I'm wrong, meh, lol. 3 and 4.2 million consoles strong means both had a great launch.

to be clear your prediction is x1 has outsold godstation 4 in 2013? in the states

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#17 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (4748 posts) -

Wii U will dominate, followed by Xbox One. Lol PlayStation.

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#18 Posted by BlessedChill (697 posts) -

Ps4 likely ahead in us

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#19 Edited by BattlefieldFan3 (361 posts) -

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

If the Xbone loses, there are no excuses. It was overstocked and readily available in every retail store.

If the PS4 loses, there is a legitimate excuse, as the PS4's demand still exceeds its supply.

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#20 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

PS4 will win.

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#21 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

If the Xbone loses, there are no excuses. It was overstocked and readily available in every retail store.

If the PS4 loses, there is a legitimate excuse, as the PS4's demand still exceeds its supply.

even with the limited supply i think they beat x1.

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#22 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1454 posts) -

I think the x1 will sell more in NA in Dec, there just hasn't been enough ps4 availability.

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#23 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

The Shitbox Done will have sold more than the PS4 in December but not enough to have overtaken the PS4 in total sales.

Lems will cry tears of frustrated joy while us cows smile and whisper "4.2 million"

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#24 Edited by Shewgenja (18188 posts) -

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but PS4 will edge out a victory.

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#25 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (361 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

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#26 Edited by Syn_Valence (1610 posts) -

Doesn't matter what the Xbox1 does, it still a horrible tv remote


Edit: ps4 all the way

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#27 Posted by Midnightshade29 (5920 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786:

I am going to say Xbone sold more in us in December 2013... Because of the following:

1. Ps4 is out of stock in most places

2. There are thousands of brainwashed idiots out there who still think Xbox live is better and who only know what the media tells them. Either by tv, ads, Doritos, and misinformed idiots.

- just look at the xbaux360 sales and u can see this. People in my country are down right dumb!!! (Meanwhile in my ancestors countries of Germany, England and Netherlands the people are smart and think for themselves, hence why ps brand reigns surpreme!

3. People in the states buy it for American football. People here are obsessed with a sport that shouldn't even have the word "foot" in it.

Now if ps4 was fully stocked, it would be ps4 ahead, maybe... Worldwide and Europa, no doubt the playstation brand reigns supreme!

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#28 Posted by Shewgenja (18188 posts) -

I live in one of the most diverse cities in the US and it happens to be in a red state. I saw firsthand how the 360 took off here. XBox One did not emulate that success whatsoever. In fact, at our Galleria mall, there were plenty of XBox Ones just sitting by the entrance to the Microsoft store all through December.

I think MS did a good job of keeping retail stocked for people who wanted one, but as far as actually pushing demand, they fell short. It's way harder to get a read on the PS4, though. Stores got weekly shipments all over the place, but I never saw a unit just sitting on a shelf anywhere. Still don't, in all honesty. So, whatever they shipped here, they sold through pretty quickly. What I will say is, in a war where one item is in stock versus an item in demand, the item in demand almost always wins.

How big that victory will be, though, remains to be seen. This NPD report will probably be the only real interesting NPD report for this whole next-gen. So, we might as well put our bets in.

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#29 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@Midnightshade29 said:

@ghostwarrior786:

I am going to say Xbone sold more in us in December 2013... Because of the following:

1. Ps4 is out of stock in most places

2. There are thousands of brainwashed idiots out there who still think Xbox live is better and who only know what the media tells them. Either by tv, ads, Doritos, and misinformed idiots.

- just look at the xbaux360 sales and u can see this. People in my country are down right dumb!!! (Meanwhile in my ancestors countries of Germany, England and Netherlands the people are smart and think for themselves, hence why ps brand reigns surpreme!

3. People in the states buy it for American football. People here are obsessed with a sport that shouldn't even have the word "foot" in it.

Now if ps4 was fully stocked, it would be ps4 ahead, maybe... Worldwide and Europa, no doubt the playstation brand reigns supreme!

the only regions that show brand loyaly in gaming are mainland europe and japan, the 2 markets where ps3, despite being 1 year late to the party and at ridiculous price point it still dominated x360. america does not show brand loyalty, its a price sensitive region, and m$ 2nd strong hold was uk where ps3 and x360 was pretty much neck and neck. x1 stand no chance

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#30 Edited by Shewgenja (18188 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

Let it go on record that, so far, only Kuu2 has made a prediction for the Lem faction. (Good sport of you, by the way).

We need more Lems. Come on guys, this is the US we're talking about! Can no one but Kuu2 defend the homeland?

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#31 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

This does not even make sense, NPD only for one region.

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#32 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

If the Xbone loses, there are no excuses. It was overstocked and readily available in every retail store.

If the PS4 loses, there is a legitimate excuse, as the PS4's demand still exceeds its supply.

So the PS4 can't lose.....my point exactly

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#33 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@kuu2 said:

I have already gone on record and said The One would outsell the PauperStation4 in NA so I am ready to either crow or eat it.

Lets go!

Let it go on record that, so far, only Kuu2 has made a prediction for the Lem faction. (Good sport of you, by the way).

We need more Lems. Come on guys, this is the US we're talking about! Can no one but Kuu2 defend the homeland?

shawn and kuu2 are the only lems brave enough. haha lems are all talk

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#34 Posted by Chutebox (42216 posts) -

@kuu2: That's the spirit! I say ps4 by less than 100k

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#35 Edited by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

After the last selfownage thread from lems I'm not expecting any bold predictions from them.

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#36 Posted by Liquid_ (3774 posts) -

TC has a point.

Xbox 1 is available on amazon

PS4 is not

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#37 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

Wii U outsold Vita, The Xbox One and PS4 are 1ft apart in total NA sales, however Xbox One won december. 3DS and 360 will be the best selling hardware overall.

This is from the NPD.

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#38 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25834 posts) -

Xbone- 3 million

PS4- 600K

Wii U- no one cares

Vita- 2 million

3DS- 800K

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#39 Posted by Shewgenja (18188 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

This does not even make sense, NPD only for one region.

It is the XBoxes biggest territory. Especialy since the UK fell to the Playstation Nation.

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#40 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

This does not even make sense, NPD only for one region.

It is the XBoxes biggest territory. Especialy since the UK fell to the Playstation Nation.

I don't think you understand how selling 3 million in one country when you are in more than one country is not possible.

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#42 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (361 posts) -

@Midnightshade29 said:

@ghostwarrior786:

I am going to say Xbone sold more in us in December 2013... Because of the following:

1. Ps4 is out of stock in most places

2. There are thousands of brainwashed idiots out there who still think Xbox live is better and who only know what the media tells them. Either by tv, ads, Doritos, and misinformed idiots.

- just look at the xbaux360 sales and u can see this. People in my country are down right dumb!!! (Meanwhile in my ancestors countries of Germany, England and Netherlands the people are smart and think for themselves, hence why ps brand reigns surpreme!

3. People in the states buy it for American football. People here are obsessed with a sport that shouldn't even have the word "foot" in it.

Now if ps4 was fully stocked, it would be ps4 ahead, maybe... Worldwide and Europa, no doubt the playstation brand reigns supreme!

To be frank, the average European scores maybe 1-2 points higher than the average American on an IQ exam. If you abide by the principle that IQ measures your "true intelligence" then I guess Europeans really are smarter than Americans.

To me, that 1-2 points isn't really significant, as that difference isn't going to strew out into anything worthwhile. It's not like the average European is smart enough to get a Physics PhD while the average American is only smart enough to do janitorial work. All things being equal, the average American and the average European aren't smart enough to pass an engineering, math or physics major.

I will say this though: The reason why Europeans will never surpass Americans in math, science and technology is because Americans have the smartest people in the world.

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#43 Edited by BattlefieldFan3 (361 posts) -

@Jakandsigz said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

This does not even make sense, NPD only for one region.

We have the official numbers for Germany, France, Spain, Brazil and the UK.

We have estimations for the other European countries, Canada and Mexico as well with good margins of error.

If US sold-through isn't high enough, then Microsoft stated shipped numbers.

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#44 Edited by Locutus_Picard (4039 posts) -

PS4: 2.5 million

XB1: 1.5 million

Wii U: like twelve

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#45 Edited by clone01 (26723 posts) -

TEH NPD salez thread warz!!!

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#46 Posted by hamster3_3 (130 posts) -

Xbox to have sold 1mil and PS4 700k in December. Why not?

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#47 Posted by tormentos (26085 posts) -

@blackace said:

What!?!?! Both consoles sold 2+ million during Black Friday. nothing wrong with that. Yes it was EPIC. Several sales records were broken that week.

No....

The xbox one sold 2 million in 18 days,not in the black friday.

In fact in NA the xbox one sold 900k in the first 9 days of its launch.

The PS4 sold 1 million in 24 hours.

The only reason the xbox one outsold the PS4 on black friday was because sony had no units to sell,it is pretty easy to see.

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#48 Posted by Jakandsigz (6341 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@Shewgenja said:

NPD tracks sales to actual retail customers, so I am going to say that the XBox One got beat by a small margin in the US. Not significantly high, but it will edge out a victory.

Today is the day we find out if Microsoft was stating sold-through numbers or shipped numbers.

This does not even make sense, NPD only for one region.

We have the official numbers for Germany, France, Spain, Brazil and the UK.

We have estimations for the other European countries, Canada and Mexico as well with good margins of error.

If US sold-through isn't high enough, then Microsoft stated shipped numbers.

We do not have December sales for anything outside of Canada, U.K. and Germany.

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#49 Posted by heretrix (37791 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3 said:

@blackace said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

If it's close cows will make excuses, if PS4 is ahead cows will claim the X1 is finished....that's my prediction.

LOL!! Pretty much. No matter what happens, we can all expect excuses and damage control throughout this thread if it stays active. As long as both systems keep selling millions, I'm happy.

If the PS4 loses, there is a legitimate excuse, as the PS4's demand still exceeds its supply.

It's still an excuse. If you need to be excused for something it's usually not a good thing.

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#50 Edited by Speak_Low (2248 posts) -

Obviously PS4 will be on top with X1 behind it.

Then Xbox 360/PS3 in the middle

Wii Uh-Oh on the bottom like always. I think it will be around 320,000 units, which is terrible! Last month's 220k NPD was less than Gamecube, N64 and Dreamcast.