NPD Analyst: Switch hardware sales are currently leading the US market in a big way

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#1 Edited by GoldenElementXL (3329 posts) -

Nintendo is doing their thing in 2019. And some folks think that with the current streaming trends, the Switch can continue to succeed during Xbox and Playstations "next gen"










But really, we all know why the Switch is doing so well. Pachter said it would fail.

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"Nintendo is a backward looking company"

"Missing sales targets by a mile"

"Needs to drop to $199 to have a prayer"

"Nintendo is out to lunch. They do not have a strategy that works"



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#2 Posted by SolidGame_basic (24349 posts) -

Switch is in its own category at this point and I think that's a good thing.

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#3 Posted by Pedro (35392 posts) -
@SolidGame_basic said:

Switch is in its own category at this point and I think that's a good thing.

I see it as more redundant hardware.

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#4 Posted by xantufrog (11609 posts) -
@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Switch is in its own category at this point and I think that's a good thing.

I see it as more redundant hardware.

It's the only NOT-redundant hardware out right now, IMO

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#5 Posted by Pedro (35392 posts) -

@xantufrog said:

It's the only NOT-redundant hardware out right now, IMO

Every game on the system "can be played" on another more capable system. Just like consoles in general contribute to unnecessary redundant hardware, the Switch is not an exception just worse because its weaker hardware. Hardware like the Switch is only not redundant when its an extension to more capable hardware in the form of portable game purchases as in you buy once can play on the go or on a more capable system. Gaming as a whole is so backward in execution and gamers are too busy being fanboys to push for modernization of end user licenses.

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#6 Posted by GoldenElementXL (3329 posts) -

@Pedro: There are games on the Switch that aren’t available anywhere else. And even if we are talking emulation, the Switch’s portability and controller functions still can’t be emulated. You’re wrong about the Switch in almost every way

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#7 Posted by charizard1605 (82717 posts) -

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

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#8 Posted by Pedro (35392 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

Yes I am better. :)

@goldenelementxl said:

@Pedro: There are games on the Switch that aren’t available anywhere else. And even if we are talking emulation, the Switch’s portability and controller functions still can’t be emulated. You’re wrong about the Switch in almost every way

You missed my point and emulation conversations are not allowed. :P

This is not just a Switch issue but all consoles. The problem I have with consoles in general is that games are hardware locked to them despite the fact that the same games can run equally good or better on comparable systems. The worse case example of this is all these junk mini console hardware in which all of the games can effectively run on every available platform including phones but they are creating additional hardware just for those games. It makes no sense. I would be more open the success of this model (which has been going on for decades and its archaic nature is supported by fanboys) with a better licensing system, at least for the multi-platform games. I see the Switch as being an excellent extension of all the other systems in which the games you already own can be continued on the Switch. Instead we will have game streaming as the alternative.

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#9 Posted by XVision84 (16314 posts) -

Makes sense. A unique and portable console with all sorts of amazing games. Don't see why it wouldn't sell.

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#10 Posted by phbz (4566 posts) -

I guess people were right, Nintendo is doomed.

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#11 Posted by drummerdave9099 (4130 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

The king has returned!

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#12 Posted by Archangel3371 (28348 posts) -

Nintendo is doomed! Doomed I tell ya! Well ok not that doomed. 😂

Anyway it’s great to see Nintendo and the Switch continuing to do so well. I certainly love mine and the many games I have for it right now. There’s also a ton of great stuff coming out for the rest of this year that I want to get also.

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#13 Posted by dzimm (5510 posts) -
@Pedro said:

I see the Switch as being an excellent extension of all the other systems in which the games you already own can be continued on the Switch.

You mean something like a hybrid console/portable system? That's brilliant! Somebody should totally make that!

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#14 Posted by Zero_epyon (13325 posts) -

Just bought one the other day with some Mario and Breath of the Wild. So far so good. Kids like it too.

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#15 Posted by xantufrog (11609 posts) -

@Archangel3371: they were having a pretty good sale the other day too on the E-shop. Big games down to cool indies. I grabbed Undertale, which I think is perfect for it

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#16 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (19131 posts) -

I'm not surprised Switch is doing so well... it's a great system with great games. I mean I'm playing my Switch more than my XB1 X nowadays... that's saying something.

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#17 Posted by Archangel3371 (28348 posts) -

@xantufrog: Yeah I saw that as well. I prefer getting physical copies of games though even if I have to pay more. Still though there were plenty of good deals to be had there.

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#18 Posted by svaubel (4136 posts) -

Switch is easily my favorite system after the PS2. I use it way more than my PS4 and Xbone combined.

If the future is all streaming and services, then I hope Nintendo stays backwards thinking.

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#19 Posted by Heil68 (58244 posts) -
@drummerdave9099 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

The king has returned!

Thanks for noticing my return, I was enthroned in a SONY Live, Learn and Love retreat,

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#20 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (19131 posts) -

@Heil68 said:
@drummerdave9099 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

The king has returned!

Thanks for noticing my return, I was enthroned in a SONY Live, Learn and Love retreat,

Lol

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#21 Posted by ellos (2051 posts) -

I hope its doing as well as nintendo wants it to do. Comparing it to the other aging consoles could be over analyzing things. Is it meeting nintendos targets on its own time is the question.

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#22 Edited by R-Gamer (408 posts) -

I think it has alot to do with people waiting for the PS5.

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#23 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (8647 posts) -

@svaubel said:

Switch is easily my favorite system after the PS2. I use it way more than my PS4 and Xbone combined.

If the future is all streaming and services, then I hope Nintendo stays backwards thinking.

They'll hop right on that streaming wagon. Investors will prevent them from doing otherwise. I promise.

Their hardware might be a target for steaming services, as MS seems to be pushing gamepass for other hardware. If Gamepass is on PS5 and Switch, that would be a megaton.

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#24 Posted by AJStyles (1007 posts) -

The switch is one of the worst systems ever and it’s sales are only going to slow down. People in real life do notice the massive game droughts Nintendo systems get.

E3 just passed and Nintendo confirmed no games for the next year.

Why would people still buy this thing?

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#25 Posted by I_P_Daily (12280 posts) -

You can bet this thread will stay open lol.

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#26 Posted by xantufrog (11609 posts) -

@i_p_daily: why wouldn't it?

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#27 Posted by nintendoboy16 (36465 posts) -

And I believe it.

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#28 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (19785 posts) -

@goldenelementxl: Michael Pachter is such a clown of an Analyst! He stated the Wii would die after 2 years in the Market.

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#29 Posted by freedom01 (3415 posts) -

what else can we say
lol Pachter

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#30 Posted by Coolyfett (6055 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Oh I see Pedro is still better about Nintendo hardware and software doing this well. Amusing.

Anyway, good on Nintendo for creating such an appealing bit of hardware backed by such a strong software ecosystem.

Charizard1605 LOL Coolyfett has not seen you on here in a while. Welcome Back

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#31 Posted by Ant_17 (12700 posts) -

@FireEmblem_Man said:

@goldenelementxl: Michael Pachter is such a clown of an Analyst! He stated the Wii would die after 2 years in the Market.

That's why when he says anything, expect the oposite to happen.

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#32 Posted by Xabiss (2853 posts) -

Glad to see Nintendo doing so well after the WII U crap.

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#33 Posted by Raining51 (1142 posts) -

Uh really?

I don't believe it but it's true well whatever that s fine I guess.

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#34 Posted by SecretPolice (35358 posts) -

The Bait & Switch is losing big time compared to it's only mobile gaming competition... Smart Phones, and it's not even close. :P

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#35 Posted by sonny2dap (1536 posts) -

I fully believe it, I'm expecting they have a huge xmas and I can definitely see them competing well into the new hardware that Sony and MS launch.

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#36 Posted by shellcase86 (4469 posts) -

"Currently leading the US market in a big way."

How so?

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#37 Posted by Ant_17 (12700 posts) -

@shellcase86 said:

"Currently leading the US market in a big way."

How so?

It's selling, unlike the WIIU last time.

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#38 Posted by Shewgenja (21456 posts) -

Exclusives matter.

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#39 Posted by charizard1605 (82717 posts) -

@raining51 said:

Uh really?

I don't believe it but it's true well whatever that s fine I guess.

What part is hard to believe, exactly?

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#40 Posted by Raining51 (1142 posts) -

The Switch is a solid system is it not?

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#41 Posted by Techhog89 (3779 posts) -

@shellcase86: It has a massive lead so far this year. It has won every month since December.

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#42 Posted by shellcase86 (4469 posts) -

@techhog89 said:

@shellcase86: It has a massive lead so far this year. It has won every month since December.

What is the lead? I know they've sold more monthly, but by what margin?

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#43 Edited by Techhog89 (3779 posts) -

@shellcase86: He's not allowed to say. I could add together based on the leaks but I don't have time right now.

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#44 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (29181 posts) -

@Pedro said:
@xantufrog said:

It's the only NOT-redundant hardware out right now, IMO

Every game on the system "can be played" on another more capable system. Just like consoles in general contribute to unnecessary redundant hardware, the Switch is not an exception just worse because its weaker hardware. Hardware like the Switch is only not redundant when its an extension to more capable hardware in the form of portable game purchases as in you buy once can play on the go or on a more capable system. Gaming as a whole is so backward in execution and gamers are too busy being fanboys to push for modernization of end user licenses.

The 4K twins are far more redundant. They are literally the same thing twice, with maybe one or two exclusives a year to make the difference. That's why xbox one failed so hard this gen.

Every switch game is portable, instant difference right there.

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#45 Posted by Pedro (35392 posts) -

@Bread_or_Decide said:

The 4K twins are far more redundant. They are literally the same thing twice, with maybe one or two exclusives a year to make the difference. That's why xbox one failed so hard this gen.

Every switch game is portable, instant difference right there.

They are redundant to who? A person who already owns one of the two? To a person who games primarily on the PC? To a person who has no interest in portability? Every multi-platform game is the worse version on the Switch at the same price.

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#46 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (29181 posts) -

@Pedro said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

The 4K twins are far more redundant. They are literally the same thing twice, with maybe one or two exclusives a year to make the difference. That's why xbox one failed so hard this gen.

Every switch game is portable, instant difference right there.

They are redundant to who? A person who already owns one of the two? To a person who games primarily on the PC? To a person who has no interest in portability? Every multi-platform game is the worse version on the Switch at the same price.

The consumer doesn't care about graphics. I mean how many generations of the best graphics being the loser is it going to take for that to sink in?

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#47 Posted by Pedro (35392 posts) -

@Bread_or_Decide said:

The consumer doesn't care about graphics. I mean how many generations of the best graphics being the loser is it going to take for that to sink in?

Consumers do care about graphics. The PS4 is the top selling console and was the most powerful console for the first three years.

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#48 Edited by Bread_or_Decide (29181 posts) -

@Pedro said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

The consumer doesn't care about graphics. I mean how many generations of the best graphics being the loser is it going to take for that to sink in?

Consumers do care about graphics. The PS4 is the top selling console and was the most powerful console for the first three years.

The PS4 is the least powerful of the 4K twins now and explain to me why then the 3DS, Wii, and Switch are such hits if graphics matter so much. PS4 won based on its price compared to the xbox one.

or why the biggest games on PC are DOTA, LOL, and counterstrike and isometric angles where the graphics are not impressive at all.

Is that because consumers care about graphics so much? Looks like the complete opposite.