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#1 Techhog89
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https://mynintendonews.com/2017/09/04/nintendo-talks-about-the-ongoing-nintendo-switch-stock-shortages/

Basically, it's component shortages and Nintendo didn't have faith in it. This is also why third-party support is the worst we've ever seen for a Nintendo console's first year. If Nintendo doesn't have faith, why should their partners?

Makes you wonder if they were bracing for a flop and either planning to go third-party or to use Switch as a stopgap to prepare for a return to traditional consoles... Or perhaps even to go 100% handheld and Japan-focused.

Mainichi: It’s been half a year since the Nintendo Switch launched, why (are the shortages are still ongoing)?

Nintendo: We have never expected the Nintendo Switch to sell this much. You have to understand Nintendo doesn’t own the factory (making Nintendo Switch), as production is handled by another company in China. It’s easy to increase the production capacity of the factory. The finished product needs to be delivered from the harbor to the rest of the world, and rushing shipping is an extremely difficult thing to do.

We must also increase orders for parts that are made by many other different companies, and these are the same companies that also supply components for Apple’s upcoming iPhone, data centers, and many other products. Because of this, it’s difficult for these companies to guarantee timely delivery of our orders, hence production falls behind schedule.

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Okay, but... is production increasing for holiday or not? because if not, it will be a fucking shit show

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Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

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@Legend002 said:

Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

It's had a better first six months than any system since Dreamcast

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#5  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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@Legend002: It's september, not april.

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@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

It's had a better first six months than any system since Dreamcast

Fatalistic much?

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@sayyy-gaa said:
@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

It's had a better first six months than any system since Dreamcast

Fatalistic much?

Hahaha

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@Sgt_Crow said:

@Legend002: It's september, not april.

This too- Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario+Rabbids, Sonic Mania are all additional great games it has.

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#9  Edited By Legend002
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@charizard1605: Personally, those are shovelwares for me and not even worth my time. Mania is alright though but that's on all platform.

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@charizard1605 said:

Okay, but... is production increasing for holiday or not? because if not, it will be a fucking shit show

Sadly, I think other companies have the priority to make their products over a nintendo console.

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#11  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@techhog89: I thought that previously "we all knew" that it was an artificial shortage?

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#12 Solaryellow
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The demand exceeds supply. People want it. This isn't rocket science.

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#13  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

It's had a better first six months than any system since Dreamcast

Where do you go pull out that kinda of data? Better first 6 months than the PS4?

source 1

Sony recently announced that it sold 5.3 million PlayStation 4 video game consoles since its November launch.

That article is from 19 Feb 2014. The PS4 released 15 Nov 2013. So 5.3 million in little over than 3 months

while the switch has sold 4.7 million in it's first 5 months

source 2

That brings the total sales of the device to 4.7 million units.

Article ^^^ from 26 of July 2017. The Switch released at 3 March 2017, so more close to 5 months

So, again, where da hell do you get your data from?

btw, I was careful to not provide vgchartz data cause I know how well SW "loves" vgchartz despite not providing other sources

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@Vatusus said:
@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Doesn't really matter at the moment because of the lack of titles. BOTW and MK8 are the two best stuff on it but are already on Wii U.

It's had a better first six months than any system since Dreamcast

Where do you go pull out that kinda of data? Better first 6 months than the PS4?

source 1

Sony recently announced that it sold 5.3 million PlayStation 4 video game consoles since its November launch.

That article is from 19 Feb 2014. The PS4 released 15 Nov 2013. So 5.3 million in little over than 3 months

while the switch has sold 4.7 million in it's first 5 months

source 2

That brings the total sales of the device to 4.7 million units.

Article ^^^ from 26 of July 2017. The Switch released at 3 March 2017, so more close to 5 months

So, again, where da hell do you get your data from?

btw, I was careful to not provide vgchartz data cause I know how well SW "loves" vgchartz despite not providing other sources

I'm talking about games lineup lol, not sales (since the post I was replying to was talking about games too).

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#16 Techhog89
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@toddiokart: You're correct. At the end of the day, overstocking is a bigger risk than understocking. We'll see something similar with X1X if it's a hit, though that one should catch up sooner since, while there is a GDDR5 shortage, it's not as bad as the NAND and DDR4 shortages that are both affecting Switch.

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#17 mariokart64fan
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Tc the switch has better support then Wii u

Did wiiu get wwe nba a MLB game fifa 18 game's like bomber man street fighter Rayman legends even ended up being falsely advertised or promised as a exclusive lol the support wiiu had in year one and switch year one is similar but switch gets the advantage because of the sales no 3rd party smart would pass on the switch unlike Wii u which failed to move unit's. There's a business decision to be made and 9 time's out of 10 if the switch can run the game it's going to be there.

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@charizard1605 said:

This too- Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario+Rabbids, Sonic Mania are all additional great games it has.

I can confirm they are games

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#19 Techhog89
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Looks like the shortage is over in the US. It's no longer selling out on Best buy.com

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lol I'm sure that's going to be their excuse this time. 'We saw that Nintendo didn't have enough faith in their platform.'

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#21  Edited By drummerdave9099
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$5 that Nintendo says the same thing about SNES Classic when it can't even make it onto store shelves.

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#22 KBFloYd
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this technog guy must be bipolar....

all his threads on switch selling out and now threads of how switch is flopping.

what a clown.

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#23 Techhog89
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@KBFloYd: *honks nose*

The sales thread tomorrow for Japan will be full of stupid btw. A drop of up to 50% is expected, so expect doom and gloom.

As for the US, the bright side is that September NPD will finally reveal the real demand for Switch.

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Maybe I spoke too soon. Looks like it sold out online. Either demand has slowed down or supply has skyrocketed.

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#25  Edited By KBFloYd
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@techhog89 said:

@KBFloYd: *honks nose*

The sales thread tomorrow for Japan will be full of stupid btw. A drop of up to 50% is expected, so expect doom and gloom.

As for the US, the bright side is that September NPD will finally reveal the real demand for Switch.

glad you admit you are a clown...

probably a undercover sony tard the whole time...no wonder you got asshurt every time i insulted them... i wouldnt be surprised if you despise nintendo...lol this is sad

as for japan sales....what happened the week monster hunter released?....bu but...15k.... and it was alsmost 70k...
your wrong more than rovelencia.

as for npd...aug, sept and oct won't say much of anything..... it's the holiday nov and dec months that will say it all.

and in japan it will outsell the ps4...so doom and gloom all you want.

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#26  Edited By KBFloYd
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@techhog89 said:

Maybe I spoke too soon. Looks like it sold out online. Either demand has slowed down or supply has skyrocketed.

it is in stock again...i just checked...

hmmm...

guess they are putting more up each time they run out..

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@KBFloYd: Yeah, I had some bad info that time, which was corrected a day later. I'm confident that we'll see a drop tomorrow though. There's a chance that Media Create will remain steady though since it seems like they under-reported by about 10k. I predict that they'll report 30-40k, with a 45k max.

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@charizard1605 said:

I'm talking about games lineup lol, not sales (since the post I was replying to was talking about games too).

hum, k. my bad then. sowy

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#29  Edited By superbuuman
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No faith in Switchy?...why?... cause it wasn't design by bloody Miyamoto?...so much for having faith in their younger teams. Get stuff! Miyamoto. :P

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@techhog89 said:

@KBFloYd: Yeah, I had some bad info that time, which was corrected a day later. I'm confident that we'll see a drop tomorrow though. There's a chance that Media Create will remain steady though since it seems like they under-reported by about 10k. I predict that they'll report 30-40k, with a 45k max.

just checked best buy...5 of the 7 bundles they had are sold out...

2bundles left... a zelda+neon switch bundle and zelda+grey switch +charging grip bundle.

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Nintendo is doing the best they can, and there's no way they will get priority over apple

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#32 KBFloYd
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all 7 bundles are in stock again at best buy....

guess i'll just shut up now about best buy.

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@charizard1605 said:

Okay, but... is production increasing for holiday or not? because if not, it will be a fucking shit show

He is saying it's not production, but shipping

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@charizard1605: Personally, those are shovelwares for me and not even worth my time. Mania is alright though but that's on all platform.

Splatoon 2 is a legit system seller. Hardly a title to be deemed "shovelware".

You got Zelda, Mario Kart and Splatoon 2 to be Must haves for the system with games like Minecraft, Sonic Mania, Puyo Puyo Tetris, ARMS and Mario + Rabbids to fill in the gaps.

Switch is turning into a fine system. It's certainly having a better year 1 then both the Xbox One and PS4 did.

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@LegatoSkyheart: I know people love splatoon, but it just doesn't appeal to me. Others like MK, Zelda, minecraft I can play without having to get a switch.

I can definitely understand why some don't see a compelling reason to dive in. I know the offerings are better than real shovelware, but it still comes off shovelware-y to me.

When odyssey hits I'll stop complaining. My Target has had a steady supply of Switches, maybe I should get one before the holidays while I can... guess I could replay Zelda in the meantime.

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So, Nintendo knows about the problem, they know that a shitload of people wants a Switch but can't get one, and they can do nothing about it. Well that really sucks both for consumers and Nintendo..

One can blame Nintendo for not predicting the future that lots of people wanted their new console, but I personally wont. They should just focus on making as many units and ship them as they can. Then they should make a shitload more NES and SNES minis while they're at it. It's a bit scary just thinking about how much money Nintendo is missing out on right now.

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Here are some words from a UK retailer regarding Nintendo Switch stock shortages and reception for the console so far. Source via NintendoLife

They sound mostly positive, at least. Although, their words aren't quite as glowing as those we have heard from Gamestop in the USA.

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Interesting. http://kotaku.com/pokemon-boss-thought-the-switch-was-going-to-be-a-failu-1800671874

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@techhog89: It gives us an interesting perspective into what portability in Japan actually means.

It seems like it's more about mobile phones than anything else, and I think Ishihara had every right to be cautious.

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@achilles614 said:

@LegatoSkyheart: I know people love splatoon, but it just doesn't appeal to me. Others like MK, Zelda, minecraft I can play without having to get a switch.

I can definitely understand why some don't see a compelling reason to dive in. I know the offerings are better than real shovelware, but it still comes off shovelware-y to me.

When odyssey hits I'll stop complaining. My Target has had a steady supply of Switches, maybe I should get one before the holidays while I can... guess I could replay Zelda in the meantime.

bro... if splatoon is shovelware then so is overwatch.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@Legend002 said:

@charizard1605: Personally, those are shovelwares for me and not even worth my time. Mania is alright though but that's on all platform.

Splatoon 2 is a legit system seller. Hardly a title to be deemed "shovelware".

You got Zelda, Mario Kart and Splatoon 2 to be Must haves for the system with games like Minecraft, Sonic Mania, Puyo Puyo Tetris, ARMS and Mario + Rabbids to fill in the gaps.

Switch is turning into a fine system. It's certainly having a better year 1 then both the Xbox One and PS4 did.

Only Zelda and MK8 are worth touching from that list and those are on Wii U. Personally the Switch is not worth it yet especially at the MSPR of $299.99. The X1 and PS4 are cheaper and the library is already built up. Not to mention how much stronger those are.

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#43  Edited By kemar7856
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Fake artificial shortages the console has no content so Nintendo is shipping limited numbers to make it seem like its in high deemand

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@Legend002 said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:
@Legend002 said:

@charizard1605: Personally, those are shovelwares for me and not even worth my time. Mania is alright though but that's on all platform.

Splatoon 2 is a legit system seller. Hardly a title to be deemed "shovelware".

You got Zelda, Mario Kart and Splatoon 2 to be Must haves for the system with games like Minecraft, Sonic Mania, Puyo Puyo Tetris, ARMS and Mario + Rabbids to fill in the gaps.

Switch is turning into a fine system. It's certainly having a better year 1 then both the Xbox One and PS4 did.

Only Zelda and MK8 are worth touching from that list and those are on Wii U. Personally the Switch is not worth it yet especially at the MSPR of $299.99. The X1 and PS4 are cheaper and the library is already built up. Not to mention how much stronger those are.

I mean, that's just your opinion (and most of the gaming population seems to disagree with you on that). You are entitled to having your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. Stop conflating it with some sort of objective fact.

Assessing the Switch for its 'power' is entirely missing the point. Entirely.

You're better than this.

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#45  Edited By Techhog89
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@kemar7856 said:

Fake artificial shortages the console has no content so Nintendo is shipping limited numbers to make it seem like its in high deemand

There's no doubt that demand is high and that component shortages are preventing them from meeting demand. They aren't shipping as many as they could, but that's due to stockpiling for big releases and the holidays. Keep in mind that Switch is only about 100k behind 3DS launch aligned in Japan currently, and only due to the emergency price cut for the 3DS as well as the shortages. It's going to fall further behind if it really sticks to 30k per week though, but the demand is clearly higher than 3DS, which sold 4.5 million units in its first year in Japan. And as for US... well, I'll wait for August NPD to leak so I don't spoil the result for the people who voted in my other thread.

Edit: Wait, fake artificial shortages? So they're real shortages then?

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#47  Edited By KBFloYd
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@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Only Zelda and MK8 are worth touching from that list and those are on Wii U. Personally the Switch is not worth it yet especially at the MSPR of $299.99. The X1 and PS4 are cheaper and the library is already built up. Not to mention how much stronger those are.

I mean, that's just your opinion (and most of the gaming population seems to disagree with you on that). You are entitled to having your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. Stop conflating it with some sort of objective fact.

Assessing the Switch for its 'power' is entirely missing the point. Entirely.

You're better than this.

lets give him the benefit of the doubt char....i bet many like him are waiting for games like smash bros or pokemon....

although i wonder what he has to say about the new mario game?

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@KBFloYd said:
@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Only Zelda and MK8 are worth touching from that list and those are on Wii U. Personally the Switch is not worth it yet especially at the MSPR of $299.99. The X1 and PS4 are cheaper and the library is already built up. Not to mention how much stronger those are.

I mean, that's just your opinion (and most of the gaming population seems to disagree with you on that). You are entitled to having your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. Stop conflating it with some sort of objective fact.

Assessing the Switch for its 'power' is entirely missing the point. Entirely.

You're better than this.

lets give him the benefit of the doubt char....i bet many like him are waiting for games like smash bros or pokemon....

although i wonder what he has to say about the new mario game?

I'm fine with his opinion being what it is- as I said, I don't mind if the new Splatoon or ARMS or Mario+Rabbids don't interest him. It's large scale conflation of subjective opinion with objective fact that I am not a fan of.

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#49  Edited By Legend002
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@charizard1605 said:
@KBFloYd said:
@charizard1605 said:
@Legend002 said:

Only Zelda and MK8 are worth touching from that list and those are on Wii U. Personally the Switch is not worth it yet especially at the MSPR of $299.99. The X1 and PS4 are cheaper and the library is already built up. Not to mention how much stronger those are.

I mean, that's just your opinion (and most of the gaming population seems to disagree with you on that). You are entitled to having your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. Stop conflating it with some sort of objective fact.

Assessing the Switch for its 'power' is entirely missing the point. Entirely.

You're better than this.

lets give him the benefit of the doubt char....i bet many like him are waiting for games like smash bros or pokemon....

although i wonder what he has to say about the new mario game?

I'm fine with his opinion being what it is- as I said, I don't mind if the new Splatoon or ARMS or Mario+Rabbids don't interest him. It's large scale conflation of subjective opinion with objective fact that I am not a fan of.

I mean we are all too smart to have difficulty knowing when an opinion is stated. When did I state what I said if a fact? I even left "Personally" in there. Even if I didn't, did you think what I said was a fact? Aside from Switch being weaker with a much smaller library vs the competitors of course. Can't really call it a competitor at this point.

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@Legend002: You are a Wii U owner, right?