Nintendo shipped 2.1m Switch/ Sony shipped 3.2m PS4 Q1 2019

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#1 Edited by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

Don't ask me I am absolutely surprised by this PS4 news. its a 5 year old console selling officially at $299/$399, very competitive to switch $299 value. Xbox is dead as usual don't bother.

Source:

Ps4

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/30/20746712/sony-playstation-4-sales-100-million-milestone

Switch

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/nintendo-sells-2-1-million-switch-consoles-in-q2-sees-profit-drop-2077508

Xbox

RIP.

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#2 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

A sales thread from a cow, how original.

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#3 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

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#4 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

I had over 1000 games from various Sega consoles, so yeah I did. Its people like you who didn't who got sucked into Sony's hype and here you are still shilling for them.

3.2 million shipped lol.

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#5 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@i_p_daily: nintendo cause sony to enter the business earlier than expected. Be mad at them

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#6 Posted by DaVillain- (38037 posts) -

@sakaixx: To be fair, Sega ruin Sega. They were ahead of their own times and went to big to fast for their own good. At least I still have my Dreamcast :)

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#7 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: nintendo cause sony to enter the business earlier than expected. Be mad at them

I'm not mad at anyone. I just wasn't easily fooled like you :)

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#8 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

It's because Nintendo overshipped during the holidays while trying to clear stock of the old model. Switch should be ahead in actual sales by all accounts.

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#9 Posted by Telekill (8586 posts) -

@davillain-: Agreed that Sega helped dig their own grave. I also blame Microsoft for jumping in with Xbox though.

It's my belief that the console market has only ever been able to sustain three competitors while the other, weaker, entries fall by the wayside.

Pre-Playstation the big three were Atari, Sega and Nintendo.

Atari died as a console maker when Sony entered the fray with Playstation, making the three, Sony, Sega and Nintendo.

The same happened when Microsoft joined with the superior online of Xbox, knocking Sega out of the running. Past failures of Sega hardware had already weakened them for when Xbox jumped in.

But I digress. Congrats to both Sony and Nintendo for great sales numbers.

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#10 Posted by Nike_Air (19355 posts) -

So NPD+Media Create =/= the world ?

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#11 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@Nike_Air: shipped =/= sold

Nintendo obviously isn't gonna want to ship a ton of the old model now, while Sony overshipped to hit 100 million faster than PS2 and Wii.

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#12 Edited by BenjaminBanklin (5021 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: nintendo cause sony to enter the business earlier than expected. Be mad at them

I'm not mad at anyone. I just wasn't easily fooled like you :)

No one who stuck by Xbox in a gen like this gets to call anybody a fool. If they're fools, then at least they're not blind like Team Xbone.

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#13 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@techhog89: more like retailers dont think switch is selling as much as people would to think. I mean it had to be shipped somewhere.

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#14 Posted by Ant_17 (12877 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

I had over 1000 games from various Sega consoles, so yeah I did. Its people like you who didn't who got sucked into Sony's hype and here you are still shilling for them.

3.2 million shipped lol.

I knew lems are just butthurt Dreamcast kids.

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#15 Posted by Archangel3371 (28534 posts) -

Eh, I don’t know. Taking shipped numbers from one Quarter doesn’t really mean all that much on its own. I think you have to factor in how many units were shipped previously and how the actual sales are going and such. This information doesn’t really seem to have much meaning on its own.

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#16 Posted by Chutebox (44745 posts) -

@techhog89: Sony overshipped? I'm pretty sure these guys can't just ship what they want

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#17 Edited by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@Chutebox: They can't, but they can cut deals to convince distributors and retailers to order extra units. Most likely they still would have shipped more than Nintendo without it, but there's a reason that Sony hit almost exactly 100M. I'm not accusing Sony of fowl play or anything btw. Nintendo overshipped Switch during the holiday, which is why shipments were down YoY last quarter despite sales being way up.

If you don't believe it though, let me ask you this: Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?

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#18 Posted by mojito1988 (3705 posts) -

You go play shipped numbers, while I play Fire Emblem 3 houses and Mario Maker 2!

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#19 Edited by Chutebox (44745 posts) -

@techhog89: You're misusing the word "over", that's all

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#21 Posted by Hawkeye44 (230 posts) -

Just gonna drop this bomb here:

K. Bye now.

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#22 Posted by lundy86_4 (53822 posts) -

@hawkeye44 said:

Lmao, what deluded can you get.

It's "how deluded can you get."

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#23 Edited by KBFloYd (21899 posts) -

@hawkeye44 said:

Just gonna drop this bomb here:

K. Bye now.

what? some white picture with some numbers with no link or no context at all?

this is what you will leave behind?

lol

ok..bye

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#24 Posted by tormentos (29239 posts) -

@i_p_daily:

Yeah we got so sucked by the more than 3000 games i guess people can be sucked into great things what a shock.

And once again you apparently ended with the worse console,i guess that runs in your veins.

@techhog89 said:

@Nike_Air: shipped =/= sold

Nintendo obviously isn't gonna want to ship a ton of the old model now, while Sony overshipped to hit 100 million faster than PS2 and Wii.

WTF?

Over shipped? Please post the link that prove sony over shipper consoles to reach 100 millions.

This is sad damage control some people just can't handle sony doing great.

During the same quarter last year, Sony sold 3.3 million PlayStation 4 consoles. While 3.2 million is a drop, it’s a minuscule one for a machine that is about to be 5 years old.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/31/playstation-4-sales-pass-over-82-million-nearing-ps3s-lifetime-numbers/

I guess they over ship in 2018 and 2017 as well right,they also shipped 3.2 million last year as well.lol

@Archangel3371 said:

Eh, I don’t know. Taking shipped numbers from one Quarter doesn’t really mean all that much on its own. I think you have to factor in how many units were shipped previously and how the actual sales are going and such. This information doesn’t really seem to have much meaning on its own.

They shipped 3.2 million last year same quarter as well,and the year before that 3.3 million so basically the PS4 is holding on fantasticly.

This show without doubt that the PS4 still going strong and keeping its sales going,while the xbox business dropped almost half by 48%.

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#25 Posted by ProtossRushX (5695 posts) -

NINTY fans...who cares if it got outsold worldwide. Ninty is winning NPD's and Japan the two best areas in the world. People follow these countries the most imo. Were winning where it counts guys.

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#26 Edited by Archangel3371 (28534 posts) -

@tormentos: Nope. It just shows that they SHIPPED the same number of units as the same quarter as last year. Umm, ok. This thread is about the number of units of the PS4 Sony shipped in comparison to how many units of the Switch Nintendo shipped and in that context it doesn’t really mean much of anything really. This has nothing to do with Microsoft and the Xbox One so you bringing that up is equally meaningless.

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#27 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@techhog89 said:

@Chutebox: They can't, but they can cut deals to convince distributors and retailers to order extra units. Most likely they still would have shipped more than Nintendo without it, but there's a reason that Sony hit almost exactly 100M. I'm not accusing Sony of fowl play or anything btw. Nintendo overshipped Switch during the holiday, which is why shipments were down YoY last quarter despite sales being way up.

If you don't believe it though, let me ask you this: Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?

Sony Q2 2019 is in line with previous. Q2 2018 ship numbers was 3.9m, make sense to lower projection when this year they ship 700k less units. Sony always been conservative with their estimates unlike Nintendo which tends to overestimate their numbers and lowering them later in Q3 when they realize they will not hit target.

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#28 Edited by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -
@sakaixx said:
@techhog89 said:

@Chutebox: They can't, but they can cut deals to convince distributors and retailers to order extra units. Most likely they still would have shipped more than Nintendo without it, but there's a reason that Sony hit almost exactly 100M. I'm not accusing Sony of fowl play or anything btw. Nintendo overshipped Switch during the holiday, which is why shipments were down YoY last quarter despite sales being way up.

If you don't believe it though, let me ask you this: Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?

Sony Q2 2019 is in line with previous. Q2 2018 ship numbers was 3.9m, make sense to lower projection when this year they ship 700k less units. Sony always been conservative with their estimates unlike Nintendo which tends to overestimate their numbers and lowering them later in Q3 when they realize they will not hit target.

The original estimate was already lower than last year's. I doubt that Sony was expecting to be flat or up, so any way you slice it the story's the same. Do you really think them getting exactly what they needed to hit 100M is pure luck?

Also, I love how you're treating 1/3 of the Switch FYs as the norm. I guess this also means you're expecting Switch to be down YoY since Nintendo only projected it being slightly up?

EDIT: Also, you got last year's number wrong. it was 3.3M. If Sony is basically flat 100% naturally there's no reason to revise down.

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#29 Edited by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@tormentos: I'm not trying to hurt your pride or accuse Sony of foul play. It's just normal business practice. Nintendo did the same thing during the holidays last year. You don't need to get mad because there's nothing wrong with it. It always balances out later. It's also not the first time Sony's done it with PS4, as a year or two ago Sony sold more than they shipped for the year, and there's only one way that can happen. But, again, it always balances out in the end so it really doesn't matter.

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#30 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -
@Chutebox said:

@techhog89: You're misusing the word "over", that's all

Uh... No? They shipped more than what was actually needed to meet consumer demand. That's what the term means, even if it's actually retailers causing it. That'll be more clear next quarter when shipments are down more than you might expect.

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#31 Edited by WhatAFailure (424 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

I had over 1000 games from various Sega consoles, so yeah I did. Its people like you who didn't who got sucked into Sony's hype and here you are still shilling for them.

3.2 million shipped lol.

They have great games, Mister Meltdown.

The other thread even has Microsoft's head honcho Phil Spencer admitting Xbox One's exclusives were disappointing this generation, and weaker than PS4's library. We can go by sales, critic reviews, user reviews, Metascore averages. You name it, PS4 pretty much beats Xbox One from every conceivable angle.

Shilling would be people unable to admit a single bad thing about their console of choice, and get really hurt the competitor does well, and ignore factual data that cannot be argued any other way. I think I just described you.

You're a shill and a meltdown maven. If you continue down this road, you're going to get a lot more nicknames.

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#32 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@techhog89 said:
@sakaixx said:
@techhog89 said:

@Chutebox: They can't, but they can cut deals to convince distributors and retailers to order extra units. Most likely they still would have shipped more than Nintendo without it, but there's a reason that Sony hit almost exactly 100M. I'm not accusing Sony of fowl play or anything btw. Nintendo overshipped Switch during the holiday, which is why shipments were down YoY last quarter despite sales being way up.

If you don't believe it though, let me ask you this: Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?

Sony Q2 2019 is in line with previous. Q2 2018 ship numbers was 3.9m, make sense to lower projection when this year they ship 700k less units. Sony always been conservative with their estimates unlike Nintendo which tends to overestimate their numbers and lowering them later in Q3 when they realize they will not hit target.

The original estimate was already lower than last year's. I doubt that Sony was expecting to be flat or up, so any way you slice it the story's the same. Do you really think them getting exactly what they needed to hit 100M is pure luck?

Also, I love how you're treating 1/3 of the Switch FYs as the norm. I guess this also means you're expecting Switch to be down YoY since Nintendo only projected it being slightly up?

EDIT: Also, you got last year's number wrong. it was 3.3M. If Sony is basically flat 100% naturally there's no reason to revise down.

I am just saying based on trend it is in line with ps4 overall performance. They always been conservative with their forecast as well.

Regarding Nintendo, I am basing this on their usual actions for the past 5 years. They forecasted wii u, 3ds and switch to ship at certain amount only to revise the numbers later in Q3. I am not expecting massive growth for Switch simply because I dont feel the shipment numbers justify it. Though Nintendo is strong in holiday seasons and with new $199 model launching I could be wrong.

My source regarding ps4 last year q2. 3.9m for 2018, 4.2m in 2017. Hope that site is wrong.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2018/10/30/sony-posts-2-1b-profit-as-playstation-sales-keep-on-growing/amp/

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#33 Posted by AJuiceMatts (59 posts) -

how long has ps4 been out? I have heard 7 years, 5 years 7 months, and 6 years just today in 3 different threads...

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#34 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@sakaixx: This is Q1, not Q2. Sony and Nintendo both start their FY in April.

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#35 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@Ant_17 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

I had over 1000 games from various Sega consoles, so yeah I did. Its people like you who didn't who got sucked into Sony's hype and here you are still shilling for them.

3.2 million shipped lol.

I knew lems are just butthurt Dreamcast kids.

A simple minded cow I see, because i'm sure all Sega fans bought Xbox's to spite Sony right, and i'm sure none have bought a PlayStation of any kind?

I do see that thinking comes hard for you cows :(

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#36 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:
@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: nintendo cause sony to enter the business earlier than expected. Be mad at them

I'm not mad at anyone. I just wasn't easily fooled like you :)

No one who stuck by Xbox in a gen like this gets to call anybody a fool. If they're fools, then at least they're not blind like Team Xbone.

But you are easily fooled as you praise Sony's shitty movie games that come with extra long cutscenes that allows you to keep on stuffing popcorn down your gob, and then its but, but graphics king lol, cows please never change, shit who am I kidding you couldn't even if you tried lol.

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#37 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@whatafailure said:
@i_p_daily said:
@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

I had over 1000 games from various Sega consoles, so yeah I did. Its people like you who didn't who got sucked into Sony's hype and here you are still shilling for them.

3.2 million shipped lol.

They have great games, Mister Meltdown.

The other thread even has Microsoft's head honcho Phil Spencer admitting Xbox One's exclusives were disappointing this generation, and weaker than PS4's library. We can go by sales, critic reviews, user reviews, Metascore averages. You name it, PS4 pretty much beats Xbox One from every conceivable angle.

Shilling would be people unable to admit a single bad thing about their console of choice, and get really hurt the competitor does well, and ignore factual data that cannot be argued any other way. I think I just described you.

You're a shill and a meltdown maven. If you continue down this road, you're going to get a lot more nicknames.

You wrote an essay about someone else having a meltdown lol, look in the mirror there alty.

When you look in the mirror try and calm down as I can't tell from your post whether you're going to cry or have a heart attack.

Here are the facts

1) you're an alt, and if you keep up with the cranky posts you will get found out by a mod sooner rather than later.

2) You shill VR EVERY chance you get.

3) I have criticized MS on multiple occasions.

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#38 Posted by I_P_Daily (12534 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@i_p_daily:

Yeah we got so sucked by the more than 3000 games i guess people can be sucked into great things what a shock.

And once again you apparently ended with the worse console,i guess that runs in your veins.

Damn tormy I like racing games so in fact I got the best console. So the PS4 has 3000 games and not a single great racing game that I can't play on my Xbox, yet the Xbox has half a dozen great racing games you can't play on the PS4.

And yet you believe I ended up with the worse console lol, nice to see that not only do you have shit reading comprehension, but your logic sucks as well :(

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#39 Edited by KungfuKitten (26796 posts) -

I remember one of my local store managers was complaining how they kept receiving PS2's while nobody was buying them (around the Wii launch). He showed me his storage and one quarter was PS2 boxes. XD

This kinda reminds me of that. But maybe they're just selling really well.

@ajuicematts said:

how long has ps4 been out? I have heard 7 years, 5 years 7 months, and 6 years just today in 3 different threads...

5 years and 7 months is the most accurate.

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#40 Posted by Random_Matt (4319 posts) -
@davillain- said:

@sakaixx: To be fair, Sega ruin Sega. They were ahead of their own times and went to big to fast for their own good. At least I still have my Dreamcast :)

Nope, the fans failed Sega upon the dreamcast. But Sega cultivated the hate the gens before, so not a surprise really.

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#41 Posted by sakaiXx (6061 posts) -

@KungfuKitten said:

I remember one of my local store managers was complaining how they kept receiving PS2's while nobody was buying them (around the Wii launch). He showed me his storage and one quarter was PS2 boxes. XD

This kinda reminds me of that. But maybe they're just selling really well.

@ajuicematts said:

how long has ps4 been out? I have heard 7 years, 5 years 7 months, and 6 years just today in 3 different threads...

5 years and 7 months is the most accurate.

Edited thanks. I am an idiot in counting numbers.

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#42 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5021 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

No one who stuck by Xbox in a gen like this gets to call anybody a fool. If they're fools, then at least they're not blind like Team Xbone.

But you are easily fooled as you praise Sony's shitty movie games that come with extra long cutscenes that allows you to keep on stuffing popcorn down your gob, and then its but, but graphics king lol, cows please never change, shit who am I kidding you couldn't even if you tried lol.

Why the **** would I ever want to change? I made the right choice while you're sucking on that sour loser lemon. I wouldn't trade places with you on a bet. You want to be stuck playing racing games until the end of time and think people should envy your position. Get outta here with that. You people got rekt for a reason.

@hawkeye44 said:

Just gonna drop this bomb here:

K. Bye now.

Too funny. Looks like it didn't take floyd long to get all in his feelings over that one.

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#43 Posted by Coolyfett (6094 posts) -

@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: u didnt support sega enough

LOL Sakaixx that is a pretty good rebuttal

Carry on.

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#44 Edited by WhatAFailure (424 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:

You wrote an essay about someone else having a meltdown lol, look in the mirror there alty.

When you look in the mirror try and calm down as I can't tell from your post whether you're going to cry or have a heart attack.

Here are the facts

1) you're an alt, and if you keep up with the cranky posts you will get found out by a mod sooner rather than later.

2) You shill VR EVERY chance you get.

3) I have criticized MS on multiple occasions.

Not an alt. If you're surprised how someone points out Lemming hypocrisy and "bad takes", it's because the Lemmings don't realize how bad they look and sound right now. In their head, their behavior and crazy rantings are normal. ("Anytime someone else does good, they are shills and fell for hype. Anytime MS does good, it means it's really good.") C.R.A.Z.Y.

Plus, I've been around Reddit, GameFaqs, NeoGaf, IGN for years. You can easily pick up the hilariously meltdowny things Lemmings have been pushing ever since 2013. I've seen preschoolers form a better reasoned argument on plastic merchandise than Lemmings.

I'll continue to post VR because many topics regarding 2D gaming kind of repeat themselves, and VR is the next revolutionary step in gaming. Also, a lot of work is spent educating and correcting false information. Nothing worse than non-VR users telling VR users how "bad" VR is. That's like telling people to never visit Europe ("It's bad!!") but never visiting it themselves. C.R.A.Z.Y.

Prove you can say something bad about MS. I haven't seen one thing. You and KBFloyd would probably win a poll here as the most extreme fanbois (that's your twin from the other side of the aisle). I can't see KBFloyd saying anything bad about Nintendo, or admitting that other companies (that aren't Nintendo) have contributed to console gaming too. You and him literally act like only MS and Nintendo have done good for gaming, and Sony contributed 0%.

C.R.A.Z.Y. G.A.M.E.S.P.O.T. T.W.I.N.S.

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#45 Edited by BoxRekt (2019 posts) -
@techhog89 said:

@Chutebox: They can't, but they can cut deals to convince distributors and retailers to order extra units. Most likely they still would have shipped more than Nintendo without it, but there's a reason that Sony hit almost exactly 100M. I'm not accusing Sony of fowl play or anything btw. Nintendo overshipped Switch during the holiday, which is why shipments were down YoY last quarter despite sales being way up.

If you don't believe it though, let me ask you this: Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?

Interesting...any more other insightful information from your pooper scooper?

BTW:

"Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?"

PS5 is releasing next year. Everyone knows this, a million reduction prejection is modest to be honest. What a stupid conspiracy and conclusion you've concocted.

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#46 Posted by WhatAFailure (424 posts) -

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Why the **** would I ever want to change? I made the right choice while you're sucking on that sour loser lemon. I wouldn't trade places with you on a bet. You want to be stuck playing racing games until the end of time and think people should envy your position. Get outta here with that. You people got rekt for a reason.

@hawkeye44 said:

Just gonna drop this bomb here:

K. Bye now.

Too funny. Looks like it didn't take floyd long to get all in his feelings over that one.

His meltdown is hilarious. When he starts bringing out the bad words, he really mad.

He probably stared at the screen, blinked 12 times in disbelief, and still can't understand how PS4 is selling more than Switch in 2019.

Nintendo has made improvements in bringing in outside third party games (much better than what the Wii U got), but Nintendo still need lots of improvement in how they handle online. And for some games, the Switch is still underpowered, and many ports just aren't selling or boosting console sales enough.

When Nintendo doesn't have their first party games, they slow down, and that's why PS4 and Days Gone is still able to clobber Switch in 2019. Oh, and LABO VR was a BOMB.

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#47 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@boxrekt: Dude, I'm not making a conspiracy theory. Stop getting angry and just read what I said. Also, you're implying that Sony didn't know about the PS5 in April...

Again, this isn't an accusation of fowl play. It's just business, and it's 100% legitimate because, at the end of the day, retailers chose to buy the extra units since they know that they'll sell them either way. It happened with PS4 years ago, it happened with Switch over the holidays, and now we see that it's happening with PS4 again. It's not a bad thing, it's not cheating, and there's nothing wrong with it. You don't need to cry.

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#48 Posted by Techhog89 (3794 posts) -

@whatafailure: it's not really selling more though. Switch had a lot of stock left after the holidays, and after that shipments slowed down further due to the current model going out of production. Switch has been ahead every time actual sales have been given, and it's way up YoY every time while PS4 is down significantly. That doesn't match shipments though, obviously, so either Switch is conveniently bombing and PS4 is conveniently seeing massive sales growth in all of the regions we don't know sales for, or there's missing context. If you believe that it's the former, you need to explain why Sony lowered their forecast if sales are rising in most of the world.

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#49 Posted by BenjaminBanklin (5021 posts) -
@boxrekt said:

Interesting...any more other insightful information your pooper scooper?

BTW:

"Why did Sony just cut their PS4 projection for the FY by a million?"

PS5 is releasing next year. Everyone knows this, a million reduction prejection is modest to be honest. What a stupid conspiracy and conclusion you've concocted.

All that stuff he's accusing Sony of, Microsoft actually did with Xbox One. He's projecting at the wrong company. Channel stuffing was the name of the game with Xbox, which definitely helped those fire sales get into motion when the big green walls started piling up. MS had no problem forcing retailers to take on their load (heh heh) until some outlets said "ENOUGH". That was right about the time they stopped reporting numbers.

@Ant_17 said:

I knew lems are just butthurt Dreamcast kids.

A lot of them were. There's people still wanting "revenge" against Sony because SEGA bowed out of the console market. I enjoyed Dreamcast too, but I got over it pretty fast.

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#50 Edited by BoxRekt (2019 posts) -
@techhog89 said:

@boxrekt: Dude, I'm not making a conspiracy theory. Stop getting angry and just read what I said. Also, you're implying that Sony didn't know about the PS5 in April...

Again, this isn't an accusation of fowl play. It's just business, and it's 100% legitimate because, at the end of the day, retailers chose to buy the extra units since they know that they'll sell them either way. It happened with PS4 years ago, it happened with Switch over the holidays, and now we see that it's happening with PS4 again. It's not a bad thing, it's not cheating, and there's nothing wrong with it. You don't need to cry.

It is a conspiracy theory and it's a pretty idiotic one at that.

PS4 was at 91.6 million in January ignorant one.

PS4 is projected to sell another 16 million this year

From january that's approximately 14 Million more expected PS4 sales...It's August now.

Now explain to me, with your idiotic logic, how reaching 100 million mid way through a year which is expected to surpass 100 million PS4 in over all sales is over shipping?

PS4 sold:

  • 4.2 million in 2013
  • 14.41 million in 2014
  • 16.75 million in 2015
  • 18.41 million in 2016
  • 21.2 million in 2017

That's a total of 74.97 million before 2018.

16.63 million units sold in 2018 = 96.1, and as in sold to USERS!

You're saying 4 more million in stock after January is OVERSTOCKING?

In a year projected to sell 16 million???

Even if you low balled and said you only expect PS4 to sell 10 million this year...THAT WOULD STILL BE OVER 100 million! And retailers would need to have those units on shelves to meet demand.

Are you saying retailers should rather UNDER stock PS4's BELOW the demand for the hardware?

I can't overstate how stupid that nonsense you pulled out your ass is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2019/05/15/the-nintendo-switch-just-topped-the-ps4s-lifetime-sales-in-japan/#72ef9e452700

The PlayStation 4 has sold over 91 million units and shipped nearly 97 million units as of March, 2019.